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Would Somebody Explain Hipsters To Me ?

Started by stromboli, June 03, 2016, 11:34:43 PM

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PickelledEggs

Yeah. If it walks like a duck...

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PickelledEggs

#31
The thing is. Hive mindset is Hive mindset. You don't need to get together with a group of people to be a part of the Hive mindset/trend/style

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Hydra009

Quote from: Shiranu on June 04, 2016, 02:27:00 AM
So...

-I drive a stick shift just because it's old-fashioned and that appeals to me.
-I have my haircut in the modern take on the classic men's haircut with the short side, long top because it appeals to me and looks good on me. When I had long hair I almost always wore it in a bun because it was comfortable and kept it out of my face.
-I wear a full beard because it appeals to me and it looks hella good on me.
-I spend alot of time in coffee houses, and no it really doesn't cost that much to get a $2.00 tea and sit there all day drawing or reading, or waiting for happy hour for a $4.00 pint of a local IPA that's normally more like $9.00 anywhere else.
-I am about to have geometric tattoos because they appeal to me and (I hope) will look good on me.
-I listen to some really eccentric music; from Chillstep to classical to Appalachian country to Mississipi Delta blues to Mongolian traditional to Armenian/Greek rock... I just like music of all genres.
-Likewise, I own a bunch of records because they are cool.
-I wear other culture's clothing because fuck it, it looks cool and I want to. If it is something that would be offensive to the culture then yeah I am not going to do it, like if it's something sacred... but by god, my favourite pieces of clothing are a traditional Native American poncho/hoody combo I bought in Navajo country and a "Peasant shirt" from New Mexico.
Hey, you do you.  Whatever floats your boat, more power to ya.

But still, it's strange that stuff that you happen to like coincides so well with hipster norms.  I mean, that can't be pure coincidence.  Though I feel like a direct accusation of conformity to a subculture would be like the neckbeard pot calling the hipster kettle black.  :P

gentle_dissident

Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 04, 2016, 02:40:12 AM
The thing is. Hive mindset is Hive mindset.

Do you think these people synchronize?

Some hipsters are accused of experimenting while others are accused of conforming?

PickelledEggs

Quote from: Hydra009 on June 04, 2016, 02:49:23 AM
Hey, you do you.  Whatever floats your boat, more power to ya.

But still, it's strange that stuff that you happen to like coincides so well with hipster norms.  I mean, that can't be pure coincidence.  Though I feel like a direct accusation of conformity to a subculture would be like the neckbeard pot calling the hipster kettle black.  :P
Yes, I am a bit of a warhammer 40k figurine gluing, DoTA2 playing. neckbeard. I will never deny that... lol

Us neckbeards tend to get pissy quite easily.

PickelledEggs

#35
Quote from: gentle_dissident on June 04, 2016, 02:51:43 AM
Do you think these people synchronize?

Some hipsters are accused of experimenting while others are accused of conforming?
A select few are genuinely (or at least partially genuinely) original and developed a trend of their own.

Shiranu

QuoteBut still, it's strange that stuff that you happen to like coincides so well with hipster norms.  I mean, that can't be pure coincidence.

I mean, they exposed me to several of the things and other's were from growing up in the country, to a family from the late 1800s. It's a mix of some of the stuff just naturally appealed to me and others, when I saw hipsters doing them, decided to try them for myself and decided I liked it.

But then I take things from other "subcultures" that I like and do them as well; I wear Nike sweats and Mizuno trainers about as often as I wear my Navajo jacket, or play soccer or watch basketball as much as enjoy art and music. And I enjoy expensive and cheap drinks, watch "mainstream" as hell news and entertainment as much as "underground" and whatever... lefty?... ... really it's just a matter of if something appeals to me, I go for it. It just happens that the hipster life style coincides with things I agree with more often than not. At heart, I consider myself somewhat of a modern Romantic and the hipster lifestyle borrows heavily from certain Romantic mindsets.

QuoteThe thing is. Hive mindset is Hive mindset. You don't need to get together with a group of people to be a part of the Hive mindset/trend/style

Every human is, in one way or another, part of some sort of hive mindset and culture. That is the underlying key factor of what it means to be a social animal. As long as it doesn't harm anyone else, then I am cool with people identifying with whatever subculture they want to. If someone enjoys something I don't, I just don't feel any need to judge them for it.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

PickelledEggs

Quote from: Shiranu on June 04, 2016, 03:04:57 AM

Every human is, in one way or another, part of some sort of hive mindset and culture.
Yes. And some people, more than others.

PickelledEggs

Not really sure what a navajo jacket has to do with being a hipster though...

Hydra009

Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 04, 2016, 02:52:50 AMYes, I am a bit of a warhammer 40k figurine gluing, DoTA2 playing. neckbeard. I will never deny that... lol

Us neckbeards tend to get pissy quite easily.
I was referring to myself.  In my defense, I have no facial hair and no fedora/trilby.  But I'm a fanboy of lots of "neckbeard stuff" like GoT and mlp and comics.  Also a fan of other stuff not quite as stigmatized.  So, kind of a mix.

But I spend way too much time on Imgur and I swear to God, that place changes you.  If Imgur loves X, you grow like it too.  And if they hate X, so do you.  And it's not like you actively decide that you're going to conform, you just see a post and impulsively bingewatch Firefly and Futurama.  And before you know it, your room is filled with posters of Emma Watson and Jennifer Lawrence.  It's insidious.

Shiranu

#40
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 04, 2016, 03:08:26 AM
Not really sure what a navajo jacket has to do with being a hipster though...

Hipsters often wear clothing of other cultures, or at least that's something that's been thrown at me.

To me, "hipsters" as you describe them or they are stereotyped as are no different then people who wear anime shirts, go to D&D games, wear sports tops, whatever. So what if you want to enjoy a shared common interest with other people? That's something to enjoy, not put down because it's not the same interest you have.


Edit: And that's not aimed at you so much as just an over-arching statement towards judging any group just because they do things different.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

PickelledEggs

I think the main thing to take from this is. At least we aren't jocks. Hipsters and neckbeards aren't so bad.

PickelledEggs

Quote from: Shiranu on June 04, 2016, 03:13:55 AM
Hipsters often wear clothing of other cultures, or at least that's something that's been thrown at me.
I wasn't aware of that stereotype... lol I'm a bit out of the loop.

marom1963

Oh, for crying out loud! It's forging an identity! It's like me and being a mathematician. I wear the costume. I've got the slacks and sports jackets and shirts and ties. I already smoked the pipe and wore the glasses. All I had to do was get the pocket protector and poke it full of pens. There I was. I've not got my doctorate yet, but people already assume I'm a professor. I'm certainly old enough to be one. I even carry a briefcase.
It's forging an identity. Everyone wears the costume that he/she thinks will make him/her look like what he/she wants to be. Most people want to fit in somewhere - so, they adopt the costume of the crowd of their choice.
hipsters
bikers
emos
hippies
tough guys
rednecks
you name it
OMNIA DEPENDET ...

Hydra009

#44
Quote from: Shiranu on June 04, 2016, 03:04:57 AMEvery human is, in one way or another, part of some sort of hive mindset and culture. That is the underlying key factor of what it means to be a social animal. As long as it doesn't harm anyone else, then I am cool with people identifying with whatever subculture they want to. If someone enjoys something I don't, I just don't feel any need to judge them for it.
Same here, though I do hold some exceptions.  Also, jocks and rednecks.

I think most of the hate hipsters get is related to the possibly mistaken impression that hipsters are pretentious and judgemental.  For example, judging someone else for listening to Coldplay instead of southern Himalayan acoustic watercore.  If you're just doing your thing and not being a nuisance to others, there's no real reason to rag on you for being a hipster.