Cop: "You're Recording Me? I Will Pull My Gun On You."

Started by Shiranu, March 23, 2016, 06:00:03 PM

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Shiranu

QuoteYou think its safe to assume which is the same as saying you don't know.

So... you want to question the police report and the camera evidence. Out of curiosity, how are we suppose to come to any legal conclusion if neither the police report or camera evidence can be trusted? Or does that only apply when they both don't go the way you like.

Are you an idealist by any chance, that we cannot know that anything is actually real?

QuoteYou're the one who felt the need to start a thread about it. So I think it means WAY more to you than it ever will to me.

I accept your admission that you were wrong. It was fun, have a good one!
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Shiranu

Quote from: aitm on March 24, 2016, 09:56:30 PM
Okay, noted, so you think if you're a police officer driving in a perfectly normal neighborhood and some guy hooking up a boat to a truck suddenly stops what he is doing, steps out to confront you and then frowns at you is normal behavior for a person hooking up their own boat to their own truck in their own neighborhood? I don't know…I admit I am not the sharpest pen, but by god that is mighty strange behavior for an innocent person.


Watch the video, the guy did not step out to confront the officer. The officer parked infront of his house for about 2 minutes, called in his plate, taunted him by recording him back and being a smart ass, and when the guy stepped infront of his own car (about 6+ steps away) the officer got out.


You are wording it like the officer did nothing to provoke the situation, which is simply wrong.
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aitm

Quote from: Shiranu on March 24, 2016, 09:55:07 PM
Um... yes, when people get stuff right
if you were just driving around  a neighborhood and some guys hooking up a boat to his truck suddenly stopped what he was doing , turned around and stepped in front of the boat and started to record you, and just stood there watching you… I hope you call the cops, because, I don't really know what you think is "normal" behavior for normal people hooking up their own boat to their own truck, but trust me please….. that ain't it.
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Shiranu

Quote from: aitm on March 24, 2016, 10:00:34 PM
if you were just driving around  a neighborhood and some guys hooking up a boat to his truck suddenly stopped what he was doing , turned around and stepped in front of the boat and started to record you, and just stood there watching you… I hope you call the cops, because, I don't really know what you think is "normal" behavior for normal people hooking up their own boat to their own truck, but trust me please….. that ain't it.

No, I wouldn't report it. I really could care less, since he has done absolutely nothing wrong. I'm also not a public official which changes the dynamics significantly.
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The Skeletal Atheist

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:bounce8: :bounce8: HITLER!!!!!!! :bounce8: :bounce8:

The guy should get a posthumous award for being butt of every internet joke.
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aitm

Quote from: Shiranu on March 24, 2016, 10:00:10 PM
Watch the video,

I watched enough to know the jack-ass had every intention of fucking with the cop. Play it sideways all you want. Normal people don't behave that way.
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aitm

Quote from: Shiranu on March 24, 2016, 10:01:13 PM
No, I wouldn't report it. I really could care less,

This takes us back to the treyvon martin case..I am pleased you don't live in my neighborhood.

edit: I am sure we can resume this tomorrow. I have fun planned for the rest of the evening-night all.
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Nonsensei

Quote from: aitm on March 24, 2016, 09:56:30 PM
Okay, noted, so you think if you're a police officer driving in a perfectly normal neighborhood and some guy hooking up a boat to a truck suddenly stops what he is doing, steps out to confront you and then frowns at you is normal behavior for a person hooking up their own boat to their own truck in their own neighborhood? I don't know…I admit I am not the sharpest pen, but by god that is mighty strange behavior for an innocent person.


I don't think I would stop. Because hes just fucking frowning. And yes my reaction to being recorded would be the same. Don't like being recorded? Best solution is to drive away. Its absolutely not evidence of wrongdoing and its not good enough to constitute probable cause. I want my cops responding to criminal activity, not sitting there evaluating whether there's some hidden significance behind someones totally legal action.
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The Skeletal Atheist

Quote from: aitm on March 24, 2016, 10:05:23 PM
This takes us back to the treyvon martin case..I am pleased you don't live in my neighborhood.
I'm not going to say anything about Travon Martin, but this is a disconnect I see in some antigun people. To some of them, having a gun for protection is unnecessary, but when you live in an area where violent crime is a fact of life and police response time is 30 minutes to 2 hours a gun might be a reasonable thing to have.
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Baruch

Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on March 24, 2016, 10:17:35 PM
I'm not going to say anything about Travon Martin, but this is a disconnect I see in some antigun people. To some of them, having a gun for protection is unnecessary, but when you live in an area where violent crime is a fact of life and police response time is 30 minutes to 2 hours a gun might be a reasonable thing to have.

Unfortunately society has pockets like that, and in some regions ... deep pockets.  I would like to move all the White Crackers to Honduras for a decade or so.  Let them survive on the streets there ... the ones with guns could at least buy food by selling their guns.

Back to my main point ... you have no rights, forget about them.  And the cop in practice, doesn't need probable cause to stick his night-stick up your ass.
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Quote from: Nonsensei on March 24, 2016, 10:11:22 PM
I don't think I would stop. Because hes just fucking frowning. And yes my reaction to being recorded would be the same. Don't like being recorded? Best solution is to drive away. Its absolutely not evidence of wrongdoing and its not good enough to constitute probable cause. I want my cops responding to criminal activity, not sitting there evaluating whether there's some hidden significance behind someones totally legal action.
You're a private citizen. Your reaction to an event and your motivations to an event are totally different to a cop's reaction. Once again, I'm not saying that the cops are justified in all actions, but there is a psychological reason beyond "being bullies" at play here. As a citizen, who knows why you're being filmed? When you're a cop you're being filmed as an extension of the state, and regardless of who you are as an individual you will get pinned to everything horrid that the state does, personal nuances be damned.


I'm not defending the cop here, but rather explaining the mindset at play. When a cop gets accused, justified or not, other cops see it as an attack on all cops. It's tribalism at play .
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Sargon The Grape

Quote from: Nonsensei on March 24, 2016, 09:46:00 PMI think theres a fair argument here about the guy refusing to take his hand out of his pocket.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the guy emptied his pockets shortly after the cop ordered him to get his hand out of his pocket, and we can clearly see his other hand several times throughout the video. So unless he has three hands, the guy fully cooperated with the officer on that issue.
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Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on March 24, 2016, 10:53:02 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the guy emptied his pockets shortly after the cop ordered him to get his hand out of his pocket, and we can clearly see his other hand several times throughout the video. So unless he has three hands, the guy fully cooperated with the officer on that issue.
yeah. After yelling at the cop telling him "I didn't do anything wrong. No." which was one of the main things that brought the situation to where it was in the first place.

Sargon The Grape

Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 24, 2016, 10:57:27 PM
yeah. After yelling at the cop telling him "I didn't do anything wrong. No." which brought the situation to where it was in the first place.
Which you're allowed to do if a cop makes an unwarranted demand of you.
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Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on March 24, 2016, 11:04:59 PM
Which you're allowed to do if a cop makes an unwarranted demand of you.
You think a cop telling you to take your hand out of your pocket is "unwarranted"? Good luck with that one, buddy.