Progress

[Sargon The Grape]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/muslim-leaders-summit-protecting-non-muslims-morocco-a6830871.html

Muslim scholars will meet in Morocco to discuss how to protect non-Muslims living in their communities.

The summit is the first of its kind in almost 1,400 years and is expected to attract more than 300 Islamic leaders from Muslim majority nations, including Iraq, Turkey and Egypt.

The key aim of the conference is to release a new decelaration, rooted in Islamic Law, to reaffirm the rights of religious minorities, the Washington Post reported.

“The prophet was religiously persecuted, so he knew first-hand what it was to experience religious persecution,” Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, co-founder of Zaytuna College, the first Muslim liberal arts college in the US, told the newspaper.

“His religion ensured the rights of religious minorities.

"We want to counter the idea that Muslims and non-Muslims can’t live together. This is not who we are or who we want to be.”

The summit is not exclusive to Muslims and non-Muslims will also be heading to Marrakesh. Representatives from the Vatican, as well as religious leaders from Hinduism, Sikhism and Judaism have all been invited.

A key hope of the summit is to counter the work of Isis and protect minorities fleeing extremism in the Middle East.

[aitm]

lose all the house keepers?

[stromboli]

lose all the house keepers?

Not here. We got Mexicans.

[Baruch]

A shaykh is a leader of a Sufi congregation.  The Salafists kill such people, consider them to be apostates or heretics.  The better Sufis know that they are just as much a target as others.  There is a healthy climate for Sufism in Morocco, and the King there runs a tight camel.

[Cocoa Beware]

I really appreciate the effort and acknowledgement on their behalf in admitting that there is unjustified intolerance within the Islamic world, and I appreciate how it is deemed a matter serious enough to warrant an event of this scope.

“The prophet was religiously persecuted, so he knew first-hand what it was to experience religious persecution,” Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, co-founder of Zaytuna College, the first Muslim liberal arts college in the US, told the newspaper.

But referring to Mohammed's experiences as if they could resolve these issues is definitely not a serious attempt at it.

If this is Yusuf's approach, it is distressingly naive.

[pr126]

“The prophet was religiously persecuted, so he knew first-hand what it was to experience religious persecution,” Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, co-founder of Zaytuna College, the first Muslim liberal arts college in the US, told the newspaper.

Because the religion he created was crap.

Until they saw the rewards of this religion -  looting, killing, rape,  slavery, conquest, unlimited plunder.
Then the conversion became very desirable.

It is all set down in a book. Called the Quran.

[Solomon Zorn]

They are just humans, like you, and many of them are surely longing for a world of peace, and freedom, just as you are. If the theme here is coexistence, then that is the right path, because it's the only path, pragmatically, other than eternal war. The majority of believers in Islam are never going to give up that faith: not the good ones, not the bad ones. The bad ones, as everyone can see, are organized. So any kind of attempt to rally the good people of that religion, has to be commended. Don't piss on their dream of uniting against the forces of evil, lurking in the minds of an alarming number(although still a minority) of believers, by using the religion itself to fight hate, and spread good will. My only fear is that it will be an impotent bit of rhetoric, that won't change anything.

All that's necessary for ISIS to succeed, is for good Muslim people to be complacent.

[pr126]

All that's necessary for ISIS to succeed, is for good Muslim people to be complacent

or complicit.

Yes, I know. I am not helping.

Apropo The ISIS are the good Muslims. According to Islam's teachings. They follow Muhammad's example.

Bad Muslims ignore Or do not know Islam's teachings.

[Baruch]

or complicit.

Yes, I know. I am not helping.

All of Nato is complicit ... particularly the Anglophones.  And the Germans seem to be enjoying the immigrant situation.

But there is complicity, like anti-Semite Protestants supporting a secular Israel ... hoping for an apocalypse.

[SGOS]

I really appreciate the effort and acknowledgement on their behalf in admitting that there is unjustified intolerance within the Islamic world, and I appreciate how it is deemed a matter serious enough to warrant an event of this scope.

Islam's image has certainly become sullied in the last several years.  Whether this perception is warranted or not, the Islamic community needs to stop depending on the SJWs of other cultures to defend them.  This gathering is long overdue.  But a lot of damage has been done to global perceptions of Islam, and I'm guessing a lot of actions that come out of this meeting will be more in the nature of propaganda, rather than actual attempts to stamp out radicalism.

[pr126]

Stamping our radicalism would mean stamping out Islam. Cannot be done.

Anyone who understands Islam's teachings, it's core values, would know that Islam is radical.
Muhammad the founder of Islam was a terrorist. Allah, his creation is a terrorist after his own image.
Islam is a religion of war, conquest and slavery. It is what Islam was created for.

It is all written in the Islamic texts, available for all to read.

You can deny it as much as you want, it will not change.
It is built into the system that any change or tampering will result in death for apostasy.

[Baruch]

US, GB and France getting ready to reinvade Libya, because the oil production is at risk?

Clever those Muslims, to trick the West into robbing them.

[Sal1981]

Sure, why not?

Christianity had its Dark Ages, where they followed some literalist interpretation of the Bible, but our Enlightenment got us on a more, let's say, humanist reformed path.

I don't see why Islam can't be reformed as well to make it more "worldly" or whatever. (careful with the double-negatives)

[josephpalazzo]

Sure, why not?

Christianity had its Dark Ages, where they followed some literalist interpretation of the Bible, but our Enlightenment got us on a more, let's say, humanist reformed path.

I don't see why Islam can't be reformed as well to make it more "worldly" or whatever. (careful with the double-negatives)

True. In the world of possibilities, anything can happen. But is it realistic that such summit will bring about major changes? 'Better than nothing' one could say, however, I would not put my hopes very high. The main belligerents - Saudi Arabia and Iran - seem to be absent from those discussions. It would be like trying to end the war between Protestants and Catholics without the major players. 

[pr126]

I don't see why Islam can't be reformed as well to make it more "worldly" or whatever. (careful with the double-negatives)

That is because you do not have any understanding of Islam.

First of all the mistake is made by insisting that all religions are equal. It is not so.

Islam is unique. Because Islam is not just a religion. It is also a political system, where the state, law and religion are inseparable.