Police Brutality Against Motorcyclist

Started by Shiranu, January 23, 2016, 02:41:32 PM

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Johan

What exactly are you looking for here? I didn't take your challenge because I don't see the point of it. Anyone who finds himself being 'black' or 'hispanic' never had a choice in the matter. I don't know of anyone who was born being a cop so I fail to see how one has anything at all to do with the other.

But I'll be your huckleberry. There are a metric shit ton of people who are black and who are hispanic. Bad examples of each have been around since the either group existed. Therefore bad examples of each are nothing new.

There you go. Now smugly enlighten us to what point you think you've now proven.
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Shiranu

"Not all cops are bad, therefor we should not make an issue out of the cops that are bad (that are costing people their lives) and abusing their power!"

Yeah. Fuck that and cry me a river.



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Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Shiranu on January 23, 2016, 07:57:18 PM
"Not all cops are bad, therefor we should not make an issue out of the cops that are bad (that are costing people their lives) and abusing their power!"

Yeah. Fuck that and cry me a river.
Who said that, please?



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Quote from: Johan on January 23, 2016, 07:39:52 PM
What exactly are you looking for here? I didn't take your challenge because I don't see the point of it. Anyone who finds himself being 'black' or 'hispanic' never had a choice in the matter. I don't know of anyone who was born being a cop so I fail to see how one has anything at all to do with the other.

But I'll be your huckleberry. There are a metric shit ton of people who are black and who are hispanic. Bad examples of each have been around since the either group existed. Therefore bad examples of each are nothing new.

There you go. Now smugly enlighten us to what point you think you've now proven.
I see the characterizations have started. Is there a reason for that?
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Shiranu

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Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 23, 2016, 08:11:28 PM


Really? When all you can ever say is, "No no no it's just an issue made by the media, it's not bad, how many cops are good!" any time police brutality is ever mentioned... it's hard to think you care about police brutality being an issue. If you did you wouldn't only offer excuse after excuse about how "it's not as bad as it's portrayed!".

Just like you aren't actually saying that... no one is saying there aren't good cops. What is being said is that too many police departments filled with good cops allow this shit to happen and cover for their own... and that this happens in every state with way too much damn frequency. It's like pointing out that Blackwater did some really fucked up shit in Iraq, and someone coming in every time and saying, "No no no Blackwater is just being persecuted by the media, it's not an issue, how many Blackwater employees DIDN'T shoot and then piss on innocent civilians!". That's about the level of "serious" you can be taken as when that is all you offer.

Btw; this one wasn't covered by the MSM. If you want I can start spamming cases that were never covered. And of course the media isn't going to report on cops actually DOING THEIR FUCKING JOB, just like they don't bring cameras to my work place and record me. But if I was to snap and slam a customers face into the counter and shoot him because "I didn't realise there were cameras on me"... yeah, I think the fucking media would come. That isn't the media being bigoted towards cashiers no more than doing the same for cops that break the law is being bigoted against cops. Edit: And if this was something that happened with frequency amongst cashiers and the companies covered it up every chance they got... and if cashiers were people meant to protect the people.
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I'm glad you found someone acceptable to hate.
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_Xenu_

You really can see the 'oh shit' moment in the video. The guy did not know the cop was behind him, and i find it hard to believe knocking him off his bike was an accident.
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Shiranu

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 23, 2016, 08:34:12 PM
I'm glad you found someone acceptable to hate.

What a contribution... just like every other post in these threads you make.

I'm glad you found threads where you can snark off and act like you know jack shit and feel it's acceptable.
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aitm

Quote from: _Xenu_ on January 23, 2016, 08:56:27 PM
You really can see the 'oh shit' moment in the video.

Ah… in the old days..back in the mid 70's when cops were pigs, I could see the guy easily say, "fucking pigs". Hey….I am sure it's a generational thing. I am sure your version is right…."golly dang, I didn't even realize I was speeding and passing in a no passing lane cause…golly gee…I…mean…golly gee…"
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Shiranu

Quote from: aitm on January 23, 2016, 09:46:19 PM
Ah… in the old days..back in the mid 70's when cops were pigs, I could see the guy easily say, "fucking pigs". Hey….I am sure it's a generational thing. I am sure your version is right…."golly dang, I didn't even realize I was speeding and passing in a no passing lane cause…golly gee…I…mean…golly gee…"

So... that makes police brutality okay?
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Quote from: Shiranu on January 23, 2016, 10:01:24 PM
So... that makes police brutality okay?
Well yes, everyone knows that prejudices are automatically wrong and have no basis in reality. Please pay no attention to the beating on the video.
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Jason Harvestdancer

Quote from: Johan on January 23, 2016, 05:41:16 PM
How many in a day? A metric shit ton I'm guessing. How many get reported in the media? An incredibly small fraction of a percent.

If you feel that my post was suggesting that all cops are bad, or even most cops were bad, well then I guess I should have been more clear.

My words meant exactly what they said. That for nearly as long as we've had any form of police in this country, we've had some portion which abused their position in some way shape or form. Doesn't mean they're all bad. Doesn't mean most are bad. Does mean bad cops are not at all anything new.

Since you won't suggest it, I will.  Most cops are bad.

My reasoning is that cops should be held to a higher standard than non-cops.  And my reasoning is that a good cop actively arrests bad cops.  Truly bad cops might be a minority, but truly good one - the ones that arrest bad ones - are also a minority and are generally run off the force.  The rest, who don't arrest the bad ones, are accomplices and therefore bad as well.

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Johan

Quote from: Jason_Harvestdancer on January 23, 2016, 10:06:07 PM
Since you won't suggest it, I will.  Most cops are bad.

My reasoning is that cops should be held to a higher standard than non-cops.  And my reasoning is that a good cop actively arrests bad cops.  Truly bad cops might be a minority, but truly good one - the ones that arrest bad ones - are also a minority and are generally run off the force.  The rest, who don't arrest the bad ones, are accomplices and therefore bad as well.
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