Trans Woman Stoned In Germany

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Multiple Fucking Sources

I remember a while ago expressing concern for the safety of LGBT people and women in light of the refugee crises. I agreed that we should help the refugees, but measures needed to be taken to ensure the safety of LGBT people and women because if the cultural differences. I can't say I'm sure what measures need to be taken, but something needed to be done.

I was assured, however, that there was no need to worry. They would follow the law. I was accused of being fearful. Well guess what? Reality doesn't work that way.

Before you accuse me of bigotry, I fully realize that the majority of refugees aren't violent or dangerous. If I believed that I wouldn't be for helping them at all. That being said, something needed to be done to protect the vulnerable, and nothing was. As a result we have this and the tragedy in Cologne.

Edit: thankfully she lived.

[CloneKai]

erm, that is not exactly stoning.

but there is a silver lining here. all the bad eggs can be weeded out. provided german act forcefully.

those refugees who cant control themselves can be handed over to the PIGDA protesters, when they are being violent. that will shut them right up. and others will learn from this.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

erm, that is not exactly stoning.

but there is a silver lining here. all the bad eggs can be weeded out. provided german act forcefully.

those refugees who cant control themselves can be handed over to the PIGDA protesters, when they are being violent. that will shut them right up. and others will learn from this.

Maybe not exactly, but still, I was assured that this wouldn't be an issue. I expect worse things come pride time.

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[Shiranu]

Rather than alienating the refugee population that on the whole hates these type of people ( not accusing you of this, just that is what has been the case), more effort needs to go into working with these communities to bring these people to justice.

The refugees have complained about the bad seeds in their community making it unsafe in the camps to leave anything unattended or that they can be mugged without any reparations... so that leaves an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone and show the majority of law abiding refugees that they are respected and wanted.

But more than likely this will just escalate into more violence like setting fires in camps again.

[Munch]

This is why I really, really don't want my bf returning to germany, once he finishes with university in scotland. Germany's a bomb societal and political bomb waiting to explode.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Rather than alienating the refugee population that on the whole hates these type of people ( not accusing you of this, just that is what has been the case), more effort needs to go into working with these communities to bring these people to justice.

The refugees have complained about the bad seeds in their community making it unsafe in the camps to leave anything unattended or that they can be mugged without any reparations... so that leaves an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone and show the majority of law abiding refugees that they are respected and wanted.

But more than likely this will just escalate into more violence like setting fires in camps again.

It's a case of rooting out the bad seeds, but instead what's happening is that the European left is avoiding any criticism of the ONE of the causes (fucked cultural and religious values) to appear tolerant and loving. The bad seeds that do get caught don't get deported, nor do they receive any significant prison time. Nothing is being done by the governments to send the message that conduct like that is severely fucked up. Nothing is being done to challenge their cultural notions of homophobia and sexism. Any criticism of their religion or culture is seen as xenophobia.

The left is being soft, so the right is stepping in because we backed down. 



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[Youssuf Ramadan]

It's a case of rooting out the bad seeds, but instead what's happening is that the European left is avoiding any criticism of the ONE of the causes (fucked cultural and religious values) to appear tolerant and loving. The bad seeds that do get caught don't get deported, nor do they receive any significant prison time. Nothing is being done by the governments to send the message that conduct like that is severely fucked up. Nothing is being done to challenge their cultural notions of homophobia and sexism. Any criticism of their religion or culture is seen as xenophobia.

The left is being soft, so the right is stepping in because we backed down.

There's a lot of truth in that.

Apparently the German far right is uncrossing its legs and starting to stretch....

[josephpalazzo]

It's a case of rooting out the bad seeds, but instead what's happening is that the European left is avoiding any criticism of the ONE of the causes (fucked cultural and religious values) to appear tolerant and loving. The bad seeds that do get caught don't get deported, nor do they receive any significant prison time. Nothing is being done by the governments to send the message that conduct like that is severely fucked up. Nothing is being done to challenge their cultural notions of homophobia and sexism. Any criticism of their religion or culture is seen as xenophobia.

The left is being soft, so the right is stepping in because we backed down. 



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I always wonder who is more dangerous, the far Left or the far Right. I like to speculate what would have happened if Churchill and Roosevelt had not decided to help Stalin against Hitler, and let the two monsters fight it out, what would have been the outcome?!? But that would be for another thread... :-)

[Baruch]

I always wonder who is more dangerous, the far Left or the far Right. I like to speculate what would have happened if Churchill and Roosevelt had not decided to help Stalin against Hitler, and let the two monsters fight it out, what would have been the outcome?!? But that would be for another thread... :-)

Alternate historical endings would be found under the fantasy column ;-)  Without Stalin (who got aid from the US and Britain) Germany would have won.  Similarly China vs Japan.  The Anglophone world is constantly taking credit for what it didn't do.

[josephpalazzo]

Ha, but look what came out of the British Empire - the US, Canada, Australia, New-Zealand, all democracies, rule of law, constitutional rights, secular governments, the very essence of Western civilization. We owe a lot to England, in spite of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones...

[Shiranu]

Ha, but look what came out of the British Empire - the US, Canada, Australia, New-Zealand, all democracies, rule of law, constitutional rights, secular governments...

I think Britain's failure to success rate isn't as porcelain as you like to think...



"We" have alot more to blame them for than thanks.

[Baruch]

Ha, but look what came out of the British Empire - the US, Canada, Australia, New-Zealand, all democracies, rule of law, constitutional rights, secular governments, the very essence of Western civilization. We owe a lot to England, in spite of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones...

Chauvinism-R-Us?  The Five Eyes are cut from the same cloth, particularly after the BoE takeover of the US thru the FR in 1913-33.  But I will root for the home team anyway ... just don't ask me to go all hooligan on the opposing teams.

Shiranu - just ask Bill Clinton and Dick Cheney ...

Depends on what the meaning of "we" is. - Bill
So! - Dick

[Mr.Obvious]

You wanna know something really idiotic... I clicked this article expecting something funny...
Misinterpreted the meaning of 'stoned' in this context...

[josephpalazzo]

Chauvinism-R-Us? 

Were I a chauvinist, I would be bragging about Mussolini...

[drunkenshoe]

Nice title, TSA. /sarc. You keep trying to create a big fuss about LGBTQA related to refugee crisis in Europe, as if it is something of a special situation, however it is not. Not even close. So let's cut the crap, shall we? I am sick of distorted bullshit vision Europeans and Americans have of their own culture, burrying their head into sand to ignore their own deep shit and act as if everything is a result of some made up migrant problem. You are not living in a first world country. It can get as fucked up as anywhere any moment. Besides, first world countries have the very same problems in their own demographic. (Jannabear, please do not read these articles.)


These are the list of the 21 transwoman killed in the USA just in 2015. Beaten to death, stabbed to death, shot...etc.

http://www.advocate.com/transgender/2015/07/27/these-are-trans-women-killed-so-far-us-2015

Transgender homicide rate hits historic high in US, says new report

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/13/transgender-homicide-victims-us-has-hit-historic-high

How bad is the epidemic of violence against transgender women? It's hard to know.

http://www.vox.com/2015/10/20/9574239/transgender-murders-epidemic

They do NOT even know the real number of transgender deaths.