Half Of Muslims Are Inbred Due To Generations Of Incest

Started by stromboli, December 26, 2015, 08:34:11 PM

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http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/07/18/half-of-worlds-muslims-are-inbred-due-to-generations-of-incest/

QuoteHere’s an explanation for Islamic terrorism that’s never proffered:

Insanity and Stupidity

A never-spoken-about problem with Muslims is their inbreeding as a result of their long and deeply-ingrained practice of marrying first cousins â€" a practice that has been prohibited in the Judeo-Christian tradition since the days of Moses.

More than 7 years ago, the UK’s environment minister Phil Woolas had sounded the alarm about this “very sensitive” issue
that is “rarely debated”. Referring to the culture of arranged marriages between cousins in the Muslim immigrant community, Woolas said: “If you have a child with your cousin the likelihood is there’ll be a genetic problem.”

Woolas, whose views are supported by medical experts, said most cases occur in immigrant families from rural Pakistan, where up to half of all marriages involve first cousins. Woolas said: “If you talk to any primary care worker they will tell you that levels of disability among the . . . Pakistani population are higher than the general population. And everybody knows it’s caused by first cousin marriage.”

The problem is made worse by generational inbreeding. As Woolas put it, “Many of the parents themselves and many of the public spokespeople are themselves products of first cousin marriages.” That would explain why research for BBC2’s Newsnight in November 2005 showed that British Pakistanis accounted for 3.4% of all births but 30% of all British children with recessive genetic disorders.

Indeed, an entry in Wikipedia confirms that “Cousin marriages in Muslim majority countries are often preferred and even encouraged in some regions,” and points to the fact that prophet Muhammad himself had married cousins.

But the problem isn’t exclusive to Pakistani Muslims as Woolas seems to imply, but is pandemic among Muslims across the world.

According to Nicolai Sennels, a Danish psychologist who has done extensive research into Muslim inbreeding, close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred:

70% of Pakistanis are inbred.
67% of Saudi Arabians are inbred.
64% of those living in Jordan and Kuwait are inbred.
63% of Sudanese are inbred.
60% of Iraqis are inbred.
54% of Muslims in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar are inbred.
25-30% of those in Turkey are inbred.
In England, at least 55% of Pakistani immigrants are married to their first cousins.
In Denmark the number of inbred Pakistani immigrants is around 40%.
Sennels points out that cousin marriage was sanctioned by Muhammad and has been going on now for 50 generations (1,400 years) in the Muslim world. This practice of inbreeding will never go away in the Muslim world since Muhammad is the ultimate example and authority on all matters, including marriage.

Sennels warns that massive inbreeding in Muslim culture may well have done virtually irreversible damage to the Muslim gene pool, including extensive damage to Muslims’ intelligence, sanity, and health. (Similar effects were seen in the Pharaonic dynasties in ancient Egypt and in the British royal family, where inbreeding was the norm for a significant period of time.)

Below are the consequences of inbreeding:

1. Birth and birth defects:

100% increase in the risk of stillbirths.
50% increase in the risk that the child dies during labor.
The risk of autosomal recessive genetic disorders such as cystic fibrosis and spinal muscular atrophy is 18 times higher.
The risk of death due to malformations is 10 times higher.
2. Physical and mental retardation and illnesses:

The closer the blood relative, the higher the risk of mental and physical retardation and schizophrenic illness.
The closer the blood relative, the higher the risk of schizophrenic illness, i.e., insanity.
Social abilities develop much slower in inbred babies. An academic paper published in the Indian National Science Academy found that “the onset of various social profiles like visual fixation, social smile, sound seizures, oral expression and hand-grasping are significantly delayed among the new-born inbred babies.”
Research shows that if one’s parents are cousins, intelligence goes down 10-16 IQ points. The risk of having an IQ lower than 70, the official demarcation for being classified as “retarded,” increases by 400% among children of cousin marriages.
All of which would explain the following phenomena among Muslims (Source: Nicolai Sennels):

1 out of every 3 Somalis are mentally ill.
More than 40% of the patients in Denmark‘s biggest ward for clinically insane criminals have an immigrant (i.e., Muslim) background.
One-third of all handicapped people in Copenhagen have a “foreign” (i.e., Muslim) background.
In Denmark, psychologist Sennels’ native country, “non-Western” immigrants (who are mainly Muslim) are more than 300% more likely to fail the intelligence test required for entrance into the Danish army.
In Denmark, Muslim children are grossly overrepresented among children with special needs. One-third of the budget for Danish schools is consumed by special education.
64% of school children with Arabic parents in Denmark are still illiterate after 10 years in the Danish school system. The immigrant drop-out rate in Danish high schools is twice that of the native-born.
The U.S. is not immune. According to Sennels, “One study based on 300,000 Americans shows that the majority of Muslims in the USA have a lower income, are less educated, and have worse jobs than the population as a whole.”
Muslims’ average lower IQ means a lowered ability to enjoy and produce knowledge and abstract thinking, which would explain why:

The Arab world translates just 330 books every year, about 20% of what Greece alone does. In the last 1,200 years years of Islam, just 100,000 books have been translated into Arabic, about what Spain does in a single year.
7 out of 10 Turks have never even read a book.
Only 9 Muslims had ever won the Nobel Prize, and 5 of those 9 were for the “Peace Prize.”
According to Nature magazine, Muslim countries produce just 10% of the world average when it comes to scientific research
(measured by articles per million inhabitants).
Sennels concludes:

The troubling reality being referred to is the widespread practice of Muslim inbreeding and the birth defects and social ills that it spawns.

The tragic effect of the Left’s control of the boundaries of debate is that any discussion about vital issues such as these marks an individual as an “Islamophobe” and a “racist.”

A person who dares to point at the pathology of inbreeding in the Muslim community is accused of whipping up hatred against Muslim people.

But all of this could not be further from the truth. To fight against inbreeding anywhere is to defend humanity and to defend innocent babies from birth defects….

Let us keep in mind that Muslims are the first â€" though maybe not the biggest â€" victims of Islam….

In fact, it is the Left’s callous silence on this issue (and on so many others) that exposes who is truly “anti-Muslim.”



Yeah we can all feel better about things now. Islam isn't just anti the west, it is also populated with mentally unstable people with low IQs. I know I feel better.

aitm

It certainly fucks up my opinion  that education can lessen the effects of radical religion. When the IQ cannot climb a ladder high enough to reach stupid, no amount of education is going to help.
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stromboli

Quote from: aitm on December 26, 2015, 09:07:10 PM
It certainly fucks up my opinion  that education can lessen the effects of radical religion. When the IQ cannot climb a ladder high enough to reach stupid, no amount of education is going to help.

Exactly. And over time without radical change it will get worse.

Baruch

Walking into a micro-aggression zone ;-)  Also I am doubting these stats ... Bell Curve?  How systematic over how large a population was this research?

Based on the definition of average, half of the adult population shouldn't be citizens, in any culture.

Also IQ is a disputed measurement.  Most Americans wouldn't pass the IQ test of 1916.  What about EQ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient

By in-bred are we talking mitochondrial DNA, Y-chromosome etc?  Certainly since 90% of all crimes are by males the cause must be the Y-chromosome ;-)

Dictatorship by MENSA would exclude most politicians, and all present R Presidential candidates (including Carson, who would appear to be an idiot savant).
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Shiranu

While I am skeptical about some of the numbers it also doesn't overly surprise me that inbreeding is common. That said there are some statistics and statements in here that just blatantly wrong that could have been left out to make the article seem more credible.

Quotea practice that has been prohibited in the Judeo-Christian tradition since the days of Moses.

This one is just blatantly wrong. The books where incest are prohibited and described (Leviticus and Deuteronomy) do not prohibit having sexual relationships with your wife's daughter for example. Nor are your nieces or mother's brother's wife off limits. The majority of incest that is prohibited is prohibitions on who the wife can sleep with and not the man. It doesn't change the accuracy of the article but it does make it's credibility dip a little... which is a shame because this is the first line people are going to see and makes everything afterwards more likely to be questioned.

Quote70% of Pakistanis are inbred.
67% of Saudi Arabians are inbred.
64% of those living in Jordan and Kuwait are inbred.
63% of Sudanese are inbred.
60% of Iraqis are inbred.
54% of Muslims in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar are inbred.
25-30% of those in Turkey are inbred.
In England, at least 55% of Pakistani immigrants are married to their first cousins.
In Denmark the number of inbred Pakistani immigrants is around 40%.

8 pages in on google and I still haven't found a proper-news outlet that covers this issue; only sites that advertise as right-wing tabloid and "Islam is coming for us" doomsday pages. While I certainly feel the percentages are likely pretty high (especially in countries such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia)... I am a bit hesitant to take one professor's word as truth. Likely he is on the right track but over-exaggerated a fair bit.

QuoteSennels warns that massive inbreeding in Muslim culture may well have done virtually irreversible damage to the Muslim gene pool, including extensive damage to Muslims’ intelligence, sanity, and health. (Similar effects were seen in the Pharaonic dynasties in ancient Egypt and in the British royal family, where inbreeding was the norm for a significant period of time.)

Biologically I highly doubt that... since inbreeding was far more common amongst Europeans and Americans than just the British royal family... or royal families in general... and we have turned out fine. Likewise it implies that Muslims are an ethnic group and not an ideological group... there is a (relatively) large genetic variance between a Somali Muslim and a Turkish Muslim... a Saudi and an Indonesian... a Palestinian and a Anglo convert.

I do not buy that the gene pool has been fubar-'d and this point strikes me as a bit underhanded.

Quote7 out of 10 Turks have never even read a book.

QuoteLiteracy rate, youth female (% of females ages 15-24) in Turkey was 98.41 as of 2012. Its highest value over the past 37 years was 98.41 in 2012, while its lowest value was 68.25 in 1975.

Those two seem to contradict each other.

QuoteThe Arab world translates just 330 books every year, about 20% of what Greece alone does. In the last 1,200 years years of Islam, just 100,000 books have been translated into Arabic, about what Spain does in a single year.

While this is (as far as I know without researching it myself) true... the civilized Arab world does publish a fair amount of books, particularly Egypt and Lebanon. And we have to consider the cultural differences in places like Iraq, Pakistan, large parts of Turkey, Africa and so on... that these are predominately pastoral and farming communities and not white collar countries. Any farming community is going to have low literacy and low publishing; if you look at rural states in the US or countries in Latin America that are still heavily reliant on small businesses and farming you will find similar numbers in literacy and publishing.

So this one while true is misleading.

QuoteIn fact, it is the Left’s callous silence on this issue (and on so many others) that exposes who is truly “anti-Muslim.”

This seems to be a new issue amongst both left and right, just recently brought out by the professor's statements, so I feel this is a bit of an underhanded attempt to politicize something that isn't an issue on either ideologies radar. And as a "leftist" I would say it's a quite interesting topic but one that needs more research rather than knee-jerk "AHA! This proves it!" responses. It's a problem endemic more to agrarian life rather than Muslim life... but I would say it is definitely exasperated by Islam.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur


Shiranu

Quote from: stromboli on December 26, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/8544359/Hay-Festival-2011-Professor-risks-political-storm-over-Muslim-inbreeding.html

A. That is a right- wing rag...

B. Only saying the same thing as above; that the professor has said these things and not the actual proof.

Also talks about how inbred Irish are compared to the English... doesn't seem to be a huge problem there though. Think the guy might have an Anglo- centric viewpoint, like the Brits who argue the Irish are less human and more Neanderthal than other humans?
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Baruch

Also in Arabic societies .. the idea that 1000 Arab families would give out this kind of personal information ... is implausible.  And I have every reason to believe in those families polygyndry and polyandry would be common (aka near incest).  One would have to do a paternity test on all the children.

In actual valid IQ studies vs inheritance ... inheritance between parents and children has been shown to happen ... but that doesn't mean that two smart parents produce smart children, or even one smart parent and one dump parent produce smart children.  Just that the rate is elevated.  The odds of being smart are around 5% ... the odds to two smart parents is around 0.25%.  So the odds of smart children, from inheritability, is already small to begin with.  If we consider inheritability of 50% per child ... then the odds of two smart parents producing two smart children is around 25% ... and such a family will represent about 0.06% of the population.  Basically swamped by the effects of a family with both parents having graduate degrees, producing two children who both complete graduate degrees.  Of course the odds of getting a graduate degree is dependent on many factors other than inheritance of genes.

There is no actual scientific evidence that there is any inheritability effect on the average IQ in one population vs the IQ in another population.  The idea of an average IQ of a population is specious anyway.  Inheritability only moves in direct biological families, and only partially.
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Baruch

Quote from: Shiranu on December 26, 2015, 10:12:25 PM
A. That is a right- wing rag...

B. Only saying the same thing as above; that the professor has said these things and not the actual proof.

Also talks about how inbred Irish are compared to the English... doesn't seem to be a huge problem there though. Think the guy might have an Anglo- centric viewpoint, like the Brits who argue the Irish are less human and more Neanderthal than other humans?

It is unfortunate that like with The Bell Curve ... one has to take into account the political backgrounds of the investigators and their sponsors.  There are other forms of pseudoscience than The Creation Museum.
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stromboli

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Cousin_Marriage_in_Islam

QuoteIn Pakistan, where there has been cousin marriage for generations, and according to professor Anne-Marie Nybo Andersen from South Danish University, the current rate is 70%,[5] one study estimated infant mortality at 12.7 percent for married double first cousins, 7.9 percent for first cousins, 9.2 percent for first cousins once removed/double second cousins, 6.9 percent for second cousins, and 5.1 percent among non-consanguineous progeny. Among double first cousin progeny, 41.2 percent of pre-reproductive deaths were associated with the expression of detrimental recessive genes, with equivalent values of 26.0, 14.9, and 8.1 percent for first cousins, first cousins once removed/double second cousins, and second cousins respectively.

A BBC report discussed Pakistanis in the United Kingdom, 55% of whom marry a first cousin. Given the high rate of such marriages, many children come from repeat generations of first-cousin marriages. The report states that these children are 13 times more likely than the general population to produce children with genetic disorders, and one in ten children of first-cousin marriages in Birmingham either dies in infancy or develops a serious disability.[6]

The BBC also states that Pakistani-Britons, who account for some 3% of all births in the UK, produce "just under a third" of all British children with genetic illnesses. Published studies show that mean perinatal mortality in the Pakistani community of 15.7 per thousand significantly exceeds that in the indigenous population and all other ethnic groups in Britain. Congenital anomalies account for 41 percent of all British Pakistani infant deaths.[7][8][9][10]

Worldwide, it has been estimated that almost half of all Muslims are inbred:

QuoteA rough estimate shows that close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred: In Pakistan, 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins (so-called "consanguinity") and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30 percent.[11]

Statistical research on Arabic countries shows that up to 34 percent of all marriages in Algiers are consanguine (blood related), 46 percent in Bahrain, 33 percent in Egypt, 80 percent in Nubia (southern area in Egypt), 60 percent in Iraq, 64 percent in Jordan, 64 percent in Kuwait, 42 percent in Lebanon, 48 percent in Libya, 47 percent in Mauritania, 54 percent in Qatar, 67 percent in Saudi Arabia, 63 percent in Sudan, 40 percent in Syria, 39 percent in Tunisia, 54 percent in the United Arabic Emirates and 45 percent in Yemen.[12][13]
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Shiranu

Fair enough. Like I said I didn't doubt the numbers were high, nor does that invalidate the other points ( or validate his).
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Baruch

I would say that all Presidential elections in the US ... prove that all Americans are idiots since at least 1960.  Good thing the Chinese are going to deal with this problem.  Don't know if it is because of in-breeding ... maybe just ur-under-menschen.

The in-breeding aspect ... if that is bad ... means that all the monarchies need to be eliminated ... including GB.  But I am not sure in-breeding is bad.  Maybe we should castrate based on the tendency toward flatulence ... if we can develop a rigorous test for that.
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QuoteA never-spoken-about problem with Muslims is their inbreeding as a result of their long and deeply-ingrained practice of marrying first cousins â€" a practice that has been prohibited in the Judeo-Christian tradition since the days of Moses.

I don't necessarily agree with this, since royal families in particular are infamous, and to my knowledge it wasn't actually against the law in Europe until about 200 years ago.

Needless to say, wow. It shouldn't be legal to be married to your cousin anywhere as far as I'm concerned.

This is not okay at all, and we cannot afford to be quiet about this kind of thing out of concern for the sensitivities of others. At this point any refusal to recognize this problem because people like to twist this kind of thing into something bigoted is completely absurd. This is too fucked up.

Its taboo for extremely good reasons, the cost to human welfare is immeasurable.

Baruch

Perhaps a contribution to the educational efforts of UNESCO would help.
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stromboli

#14
The Koran clearly gives permission for both incest and marrying young girls. I believe Mohammed had an 8 or 9 year old wife. This is the same question I pose to Mormons about their racist or polygamous past-

QuoteIf in fact the doctrine and practices of your supposedly inspired leaders can clearly be shown to be wrong, damaging, unhealthy or outdated by later knowledge, how can you believe that leadership or following leadership exhibiting uninspired or wrong behavior can possibly be considered as from god? Either god is wrong (gasp!) or else it was stuff made up by humans claiming divine leadership and your god doesn't actually exist.