What if there is a God and that God is perfect?...

[Mike Cl]

If it is too hard for you to accept
that God does as He pleases when He pleases How He pleases
without considering your thoughts and feelings...

then you are going to be greatly disappointed most of your life.

You are one of the most stupid people I've ever read.  But, it's not your fault, for that is how god made you. 

You have created one stupid universe for yourself.  But since you really, really like stupid fiction, then go ahead, roll in it. 

Interesting, tho in a way.  You can do anything or not do anything and it will be okay for that is how god intended you to be.  You cannot do or say or think anything that god did not intend you to do, say or think.  Hey--live it up, you can do no wrong. 

[SGOS]

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[TheVirtueOfTruth]

You are one of the most stupid people I've ever read.  But, it's not your fault, for that is how god made you. 

You have created one stupid universe for yourself.  But since you really, really like stupid fiction, then go ahead, roll in it. 

Interesting, tho in a way.  You can do anything or not do anything and it will be okay for that is how god intended you to be.  You cannot do or say or think anything that god did not intend you to do, say or think.  Hey--live it up, you can do no wrong.

I sure am glad you believe this you have said about me.

It is a witness to my greatness.

[truthman8]

First, God can't be anything but perfect. If He isn't, then the deity is capable of dying, and can't be an eternal self-existent God. Second, God doesn't send people to Hell. At the end of the Age after the Judgment, He simply gives those who are not saved what they have chosen. As far as the question of someone going to hell who hasn't had a chance to be saved, the answer is theoretically yes. After all, all people are born disconnected from God and headed for hellfire. But God knows this and has already arranged for everyone to live long enough to choose God, either in this age, or during the Millennium, where those who have had no chance get to live again. There is an indication that the world goes on as it has under the iron rule of Christ, as Isaiah said that a child will die a hundred years old. The Raptured souls are not ruled at all, and are not subject to sin. Also, where did the society come from after the millennium? They are deceived by Satan, and are not saved. There's no mention of them being resurrected.

[Mr.Obvious]

First, God can't be anything but perfect. If He isn't, then the deity is capable of dying, and can't be an eternal self-existent God. Second, God doesn't send people to Hell. At the end of the Age after the Judgment, He simply gives those who are not saved what they have chosen. As far as the question of someone going to hell who hasn't had a chance to be saved, the answer is theoretically yes. After all, all people are born disconnected from God and headed for hellfire. But God knows this and has already arranged for everyone to live long enough to choose God, either in this age, or during the Millennium, where those who have had no chance get to live again. There is an indication that the world goes on as it has under the iron rule of Christ, as Isaiah said that a child will die a hundred years old. The Raptured souls are not ruled at all, and are not subject to sin. Also, where did the society come from after the millennium? They are deceived by Satan, and are not saved. There's no mention of them being resurrected.

With "those who have had no chance get to live again", you mean all those who lived the vast timeperiod before the first coming of your messiah, right? Do you also mean those that came after, but died in childbirth or very early on at infancy? And those who lived in area's isolated from 'the good word' and who never heard of Christianity?
Seems more fair than saying: "bugger you lot, straight off to hell you go." I'll grant you that much. But one would have to wonder why this all-knowing and all-powerfull God would choose a system in need of a do-over for (up to now) the vast majority of the people in the world. Also, I would have preferred to have lived before the coming of Jesus Christ then, as in this day and age I have heard of his legend, but haven't found it convincing for the last 7 years of my life. At least in the Milennium, as I understand it, I would have had good cause to believe in Christ and had reason to accept and follow his iron law. (Given that he hypothetically is perfect and Christianity as thus is not as immoral in essence as I come to understand it but actually makes perfect sense.)

[Mike Cl]

First, God can't be anything but perfect.

How do you know this????

[SGOS]

How do you know this????

I think it's the definition from the United States Dictionary of Urban Legend.  But it doesn't solve the big issues and it brings up new issues as well. 

[trdsf]

First, God can't be anything but perfect. If He isn't, then the deity is capable of dying, and can't be an eternal self-existent God. Second, God doesn't send people to Hell. At the end of the Age after the Judgment, He simply gives those who are not saved what they have chosen. As far as the question of someone going to hell who hasn't had a chance to be saved, the answer is theoretically yes. After all, all people are born disconnected from God and headed for hellfire. But God knows this and has already arranged for everyone to live long enough to choose God, either in this age, or during the Millennium, where those who have had no chance get to live again. There is an indication that the world goes on as it has under the iron rule of Christ, as Isaiah said that a child will die a hundred years old. The Raptured souls are not ruled at all, and are not subject to sin. Also, where did the society come from after the millennium? They are deceived by Satan, and are not saved. There's no mention of them being resurrected.

Mere assertions.  Where is your replicable independent evidence for these claims?

And no, your bible is not replicable independent evidence.

[Mike Cl]

I think it's the definition from the United States Dictionary of Urban Legend.  But it doesn't solve the big issues and it brings up new issues as well.

Most likely.  But it doesn't really matter in that this guy is most likely another drive-by.

[Sargon The Grape]

First, God can't be anything but perfect. If He isn't, then the deity is capable of dying, and can't be an eternal self-existent God. Second, God doesn't send people to Hell. At the end of the Age after the Judgment, He simply gives those who are not saved what they have chosen. As far as the question of someone going to hell who hasn't had a chance to be saved, the answer is theoretically yes. After all, all people are born disconnected from God and headed for hellfire. But God knows this and has already arranged for everyone to live long enough to choose God, either in this age, or during the Millennium, where those who have had no chance get to live again. There is an indication that the world goes on as it has under the iron rule of Christ, as Isaiah said that a child will die a hundred years old. The Raptured souls are not ruled at all, and are not subject to sin. Also, where did the society come from after the millennium? They are deceived by Satan, and are not saved. There's no mention of them being resurrected.

Are you a drive-by preacher, or do you plan to respond?

[Unbeliever]

IF such a god did exist, whatever we believe or don't believe about it has no meaning at all, since we could know absolutely nothing about such a being. We could speculate wildly, and never know if our speculations had any bearing on Truth. Such speculation is therefore useless.

[aitm]

He is gone….another great.."What if"..

[SGOS]

He is gone….another great.."What if"..

And he had so much potential.

[Baruch]

First, God can't be anything but perfect. If He isn't, then the deity is capable of dying, and can't be an eternal self-existent God. Second, God doesn't send people to Hell. At the end of the Age after the Judgment, He simply gives those who are not saved what they have chosen. As far as the question of someone going to hell who hasn't had a chance to be saved, the answer is theoretically yes. After all, all people are born disconnected from God and headed for hellfire. But God knows this and has already arranged for everyone to live long enough to choose God, either in this age, or during the Millennium, where those who have had no chance get to live again. There is an indication that the world goes on as it has under the iron rule of Christ, as Isaiah said that a child will die a hundred years old. The Raptured souls are not ruled at all, and are not subject to sin. Also, where did the society come from after the millennium? They are deceived by Satan, and are not saved. There's no mention of them being resurrected.

Your theology is way to complicated.  Demonstrate G-d in front of you, right here, right now.  Otherwise it is empty metaphysics.

The idea of G-d's perfection is a bad cover for G-d's manifest imperfection.  Like someone who is a Bill Clinton supporter saying he never had sex with any of those women.  Zeus is better, at least he would never deny he is attracted to the ladies.

[Unbeliever]

Yeah, Zeus even had ladies springing right out of his forehead!

First, God can't be anything but perfect. If He isn't, then the deity is capable of dying, and can't be an eternal self-existent God.

But - but - didn't the deity die for our sins and stuff? Or was it only part of God that died, but the rest of him was too ornery do croak?