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Started by Enlightenment911, October 31, 2015, 12:52:22 AM

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Enlightenment911

I've been an atheist since I was thirteen. I'm sixteen now. But nonetheless I will have to pretend to be a Jehovah's Witness until I'm eighteen. Then my mother won't be able to force religion down my throat. I look forward to when this hellish nightmare comes to a halt. :)

hrdlr110

Welcome! My advice, in case your sprung checking this site; Change the title of this site in your favorites  to something less offensive to believers than atheist forums. Change it to porn something or other, it'll cause you less grief!
Q for theists; how can there be freewill and miracles? And, how can prayer exist in an environment as regimented as "gods plan"?

"I'm a polyatheist, there are many gods I don't believe in." - Dan Fouts

aitm

if you are more efficient using the tool(s) of your opponent then you win. Knowing your bible better than they do is the first key in winning the first argument that you haven't spent the time learning about "their" god.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Baruch

Memorize all the issues of "Watchtower"?  That is the JW bible ;-)

Welcome, I have known other JW folk who have found it difficult to separate, because of shunning.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Mermaid

Will your family shun you if you out yourself as an atheist?

A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

aitm

Quote from: Baruch on October 31, 2015, 10:05:49 AM

Welcome, I have known other JW folk who have found it difficult to separate, because of shunning.

My fondest memories are of a 17 yr old JW female who was determined to entice me into the clan using sex. The delightful gal gave it her all for 4 months until she decided I was just along for the "ride". To put an even more demented plot into the game, her twin brother would often drive and drop her off at the secluded place she had decided to embrace me. Ahhhh......memories.....so is that a narrative?  hmmm.....
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Enlightenment911

Quote from: Mermaid on October 31, 2015, 10:21:07 AM
Will your family shun you if you out yourself as an atheist?

Only my mother is a JW. My father is not.

Mermaid

Well, that's good. At least you won't have that stress. I feel for you.
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

Green Bottle

Evening Enlightenment911, welcome to the madhouse...
God doesnt exist, but if he did id tell him to ''Fuck Off''

stromboli

Welcome. If you want like minded people to commiserate with, r/jehovahs witness on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/


Solomon Zorn

Welcome, young man.

When I was your age, I had just gone from agnostic, to believer (almost got taken in by the Watchtower at one point). It took me 15 years before schizophrenia caused me to question again. I'm an atheist now. I can't imagine sitting through a Church-service anymore. I would have to speak-up. I couldn't pretend.

That being said, I still find nuggets of wisdom in the Bible. I consider them just human sayings, articulating our mutual, evolved sense of social responsibility, which I still value. Things like the Golden Rule, and other parts of the Sermon on the Mount, Proverbs and Ecclesiastes. It's a part of my heritage, and part of my growth, as a socially mature human. None of it is divine, or absolute to me anymore, but taken as a rule of thumb, there are some good points about judging people, and forgiveness, and such. But it's mixed with a lot of superstition, fear and jealousy, that you have to discount.
If God Exists, Why Does He Pretend Not to Exist?
Poetry and Proverbs of the Uneducated Hick

http://www.solomonzorn.com