Atheist but culturally religious?

Started by jonb, October 05, 2015, 07:27:28 AM

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jonb

Quote from: popsthebuilder on October 10, 2015, 02:45:42 AM
What does that have to do with anything? And yeah I guess sometimes not really what in thinking about when reading. I guess if I'm tryin to understand something better I may go back over it better and word or even read aloud. Again what is your point?

Just curious.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.


I am mortified, I feel genuinely guilty now. I am very very sorry, my only one slight hope is that you are an atheist who has socked up for a laugh.

popsthebuilder

Quote from: jonb on October 10, 2015, 03:03:42 AM

I am mortified, I feel genuinely guilty now. I am very very sorry, my only one slight hope is that you are an atheist who has socked up for a laugh.
I can only assume you are trying to degrade me in some way whilst attempting to attain some outward look of pity towards me.

So basically, You shouldn't pity me at all, and you can poke fun all you want, but doing both is a sign of a hypocrite.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.


jonb

I'm sorry.

but do read about a thing before you speak about it, is the best advice I can give you, and please ignore everything else I have written to you.

josephpalazzo

Quote from: Baruch on October 09, 2015, 07:47:21 PM
If the grill fits ...

Actually I don't grill, the little character grilling stuff is meant to be YOU.

Mike Cl

Quote from: popsthebuilder on October 10, 2015, 03:09:31 AM
I can only assume you are trying to degrade me in some way whilst attempting to attain some outward look of pity towards me.

So basically, You shouldn't pity me at all, and you can poke fun all you want, but doing both is a sign of a hypocrite.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.
Nobody can degrade you better than you can.  I don't pity you, don't worry.  You have beliefs and faith but no reasoning or thinking.  That's your world and you are welcome to it.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

popsthebuilder

Quote from: Mike Cl on October 10, 2015, 09:15:01 AM
Nobody can degrade you better than you can.  I don't pity you, don't worry.  You have beliefs and faith but no reasoning or thinking.  That's your world and you are welcome to it.
Don't assume things. To be able to understand things on a fundamentally different level than closed minded biased critics is the opposite of lack of reasoning and thought.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.


Mike Cl

Quote from: popsthebuilder on October 10, 2015, 10:05:40 AM
Don't assume things. To be able to understand things on a fundamentally different level than closed minded biased critics is the opposite of lack of reasoning and thought.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.
You seem to be able to mouth the words--you just don't seem to understand what they mean. 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

WanderingWonderer

Quote from: jonb on October 05, 2015, 07:27:28 AM
In truth I get disappointed with many atheists.

OK so many people find gawd is a silly idea, but then seem content not to think through what rejecting that doctrine means.

They seem content once gawd is rejected to not question the morality that came with that notion, so essentially live lives driven by the same ethical and moral doctrines as the religious.

When reading many things written by atheists I am reminded of the end of 'Animal Farm'
― George Orwell

Are there others like me who feel it is useless incessantly quoting the bable to prove how superior a person is, but maybe to start thinking what it means to be atheist and what sort of culture this idea could produce, or am I on my own?
Ethics and morals don't belong to any religion or culture. What ethics would you want to claim that would set you apart, and why is it so important to be set apart?

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Baruch

Quote from: jonb on October 10, 2015, 12:33:17 AM
Honestly I cannot see anyone buying tickets for that one


His mom might turn up though if he pays her.

I never thought any British football (soccer) team could be so reviled, that only one mom of on player showed up ;-)  I consider myself gobsmacked and edumacated now!
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: josephpalazzo on October 10, 2015, 07:35:10 AM
Actually I don't grill, the little character grilling stuff is meant to be YOU.

I know I am a villain and a criminal.  Do you?  Or has hubris taken you to the battlefield around Troy?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: WanderingWonderer on October 10, 2015, 11:10:36 AM
Ethics and morals don't belong to any religion or culture. What ethics would you want to claim that would set you apart, and why is it so important to be set apart?

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in the parlance here, morality belongs to religion, but ethics belongs to humanity as a whole.  BTW ... I gave you another "like".  The moderators will have to clutch their pearls again ;-))  I give anyone a "like", when they say something I like ... I am not partisan ... except against lapses of conscience.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

jonb

Quote from: Baruch on October 10, 2015, 11:50:25 AM
I never thought any British football (soccer) team could be so reviled, that only one mom of on player showed up ;-)  I consider myself gobsmacked and edumacated now!

If you knew about English sporting history you would know how many times we field teams that are a total embarrassment. And if you were to look at my personal sporting prowess, you would understand that not only would I have to pay my mum to support me, but why she would insist on coming in disguise.

Baruch

#87
Well I love being informed by people who actually have lived what they are talking about.  Empiricism isn't just for Brits or Empires.  Never fear, there are cities in the US that feel like sports just as you characterize your own country.  Go Chicago Cubs ;-)  They haven't won a World Series for over 100 years.  True amateur athletics ;-(  Good thing I am an American football fan, not baseball.  A sometimes fan am I, coordinated I am not.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

WanderingWonderer

Quote from: Baruch on October 10, 2015, 11:54:31 AM
in the parlance here, morality belongs to religion, but ethics belongs to humanity as a whole.  BTW ... I gave you another "like".  The moderators will have to clutch their pearls again ;-))  I give anyone a "like", when they say something I like ... I am not partisan ... except against lapses of conscience.
Ethics and morals are both the property of the individual and are expressed as a unique perspective. Granted, we often find bliss in our ignorance and comfort in the answers provided by the masses, and then we fight in their defense. Everyone, including atheists, hopes for victory, but that idea is one of the hurdles we have to overcome. Victory isn't ours unless it's everyone's.

Baruch

See!  You said another thing that was nice and reasonable ... so you got another "like".  Are you Bahai or Druze?  You mentioned them before.  I once knew a Zoroastrian in Canada, thru the Net.  Theists can be good Netizens ... if we choose to be.  And atheists don't actually eat babies.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.