Hands Up? Lol We're Gonna Shoot You Anyways!

[aitm]

Ok, I see that you accept police brutality as an acceptable inevitability,

uh….I think you're projecting a little. I could not get that from his post even trying.

[Shiranu]

I think we need to keep in mind...

These actions don't represent Moderate Policemenâ,,¢. Not at all.
We have to look at the millions of peaceful Moderate Policemenâ,,¢ who are condemning the actions of these few "bad seeds".
We cant judge all Moderate Policemenâ,,¢ on the actions of a small percentage of "radicals" who take their oaths too far.
We cant judge Policism to be a violent profession, even though they are trained, and it is their professional obligation, to hurt other humans in the name of their idea of "peace".
We cant blame Moderate Policemenâ,,¢ for creating an environment of acceptance and complacency when the radicals give them a bad name.

I'm sure the millions of Moderate Policemenâ,,¢ are rioting right now against the radicals.

[aitm]

Awww, look at you comparing apples and spaceships.

[Shiranu]

Your right, they are completely different. I cant see how I could compare them...

-One is an organized group with millions upon millions of individuals who willingly adhere to it's tenets. It teaches both peace and violence, and a very small percentage of it's followers take the violent part too literally and give the rest of it's followers a bad name. It has a code of ethics and tells people what is right and wrong, and actively goes out to "save" people. It has a special uniform for men and women to wear. It is often sexist. It is accused that the moderates do not do enough to combat the "bad seeds" in it's ranks and therefor are guilty of their crimes as well through silent agreement. The violent radicals often brutally murder their victims, and are not held responsible by authorities. It is a widely distrusted group from people outside, even though the majority of it's members are just normal men and women who are out trying to be the best people they can be.


-The other one is organized group with millions upon millions of individuals who willingly adhere to it's tenets. It teaches both peace and violence, and a very small percentage of it's followers take the violent part too literally and give the rest of it's followers a bad name. It has a code of ethics and tells people what is right and wrong, and actively goes out to "save" people. It has a special uniform for men and women to wear. It is often sexist. It is accused that the moderates do not do enough to combat the "bad seeds" in it's ranks and therefor are guilty of their crimes as well through silent agreement. The violent radicals often brutally murder their victims, and are not held responsible by authorities. It is a widely distrusted group from people outside, even though the majority of it's members are just normal men and women who are out trying to be the best people they can be.

Edit: I do suppose there is one key difference...

The policemen are MY EMPLOYEES, so I have JUST CAUSE TO HOLD THEM TO CERTAIN STANDARDS

[aitm]

Thank you.
In one case a little over 1.1 million is being paid to protect over 330 million, maybe ten thousand of those being paid to protect are pieces of shit.
In the other case, none of them are being paid to protect anyone and some of those are being paid to kill people for the sake of killing them. Thank you again.

[Shiranu]

Wrong again, bob.

In one case a little over 1.1 million is being paid to protect over 330 million, maybe ten thousand of those being paid to protect are pieces of shit.

In America, sure. Of course, you also have to take in account there are police outside of the United States... millllllions of them. MILLLLLLLIIIIOOOONS!

*cough* Ahem, anyways...

In many countries, both now and in the past, the police have acted as an arm of ideologically driven radical regimes, and carried out their brutality as a matter of course, as their expected obligation to their oath, or as a means of enforcing the regime or their own personal ideology on people weaker than them.

Also; tens of thousands of them ARE assholes, there is simply no way to deny that. There is FAR more "radical police violence" in the United States than there is Muslim violence, but the amount of officer's who are coming out and condemning it doesn't seem to be any greater than the Muslim population... a larger population which is committing far less notable offenses in the United States. If they aren't condemning it, then it MUST mean they agree with it, right?

In the other case, none of them are being paid to protect anyone...

And somehow they STILL manage to be one of the lower crime rate groups in the United States.

Edit: And take into account that many of them are lower socioeconomic African American converts, who tend to have higher than average crime rates.

... and some of those are being paid to kill people for the sake of killing them.

Please, tell me the number of Muslims killing people for money here in the United States (since you are only counting American police officers as police officers, I think that is only fair).

Then tell me the number of Muslims committing crimes in the United States compared to other groups.

Then tell me the number of terrorist attacks committed by Muslims in the United States, and the number of terrorist/hate crimes committed by other groups (overwhelming whitey and Latino Christians).

So a group I have less reason to hold to a higher standard manages to be better human beings the cops... yeah, you sure thought that one through, that really proved I am judging cops too harshly... :roll:

[aitm]

Then tell me the number of Muslims committing crimes in the United States compared to other groups.

Since your first post said million of millions, it was obvious you did not mean muslims in America, how cute you dove right for that cover. Nice try, bob.

[Shiranu]

Since your first post said million of millions, it was obvious you did not mean muslims in America, how cute you dove right for that cover. Nice try, bob.

No shit. Just like I didn't mean just American police.

Millions upon millions means more than 1.1 million. that would just be "a million".

So please, since you insist on only talking about Americans, how many Muslims commit crimes here compared to otherr minority groups, and why is it lower than other groups?

Why do the boogeymen, who have "lower standards", live more ethically than a group that is PAID to be held to higher standards?

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Start a thread about police, morphs into Muslims. Can't explain that.

[aitm]

No shit. Just like I didn't mean just American police.

Well, thats who I am talking about. Stay focused.

[Shiranu]

Start a thread about police, morphs into Muslims. Can't explain that.

Sorry, it was a joking stab at the double standard of the "if you don't actively condemn it, you are guilty!". Could also replace Muslim with Christian, communist, black ,military or who ever the in vogue group to fear is.

Aitm: holy mother of projection... Yes please let us stay focused... Since we are only talking American, please answer my question of why American Muslims, with lower standards to be held to, uphold the law better than the police, men and women held to higher standards and PAID to do so.

[aitm]

Since we are only talking American, please answer my question of why American Muslims, with lower standards to be held to, uphold the law better than the police, men and women held to higher standards and PAID to do so.

Oh please, you know very well your implication was all about the perception of muslims worldwide versus american police. You want to backtrack now? Face it, you're an apologists, but we all know that. But by all means carry on, I am sure someone is interested.

[Shiranu]

Oh please, you know very well your implication was all about the perception of muslims worldwide versus american police.

Uh yeah, kinda the same as my implication was about the perception of police worldwide... hence the reason I said millions upon millions of police and not "1.1 million". But since you wanted to make it about American police only, I made it about American Muslim only... which made your argument look even weaker, so you went on a several post deflection spree. And now that we are back on topic you want to deflect again because that's all you seem to be ever capable of doing.

You want to backtrack now?

Yes, I am backtracking by saying the exact same thing I have said the whole time. Brilliant logic there.

Face it, you're an apologists, but we all know that.

Again, projection by the pig apologist. But we all expect that by now.

(Note; I use pig only to refer to those radical, civilian hating police officers, even though I know full well it is a derogatory term. Kinda like feminazi. Judge me not.)

But by all means carry on, I am sure someone is interested.

It doesn't seem any one is, since the only one responding clearly lacks any reading comprehension or, when he does, realises how much of an ass he is making himself out to be and deflects... but hey, such is life. You win some, you lose some.

[aitm]

This just in, hundred of rouge cops in Ann Arbor started killing other cops and beheading civilians proclaiming that only cops with silver badges were true cops. A couple departments of cops from neighboring Detroit went to engage the rouge cops but as soon as they saw them they dropped their weapons and ran. Meanwhile the rouge cops, only a few of them threatened to blow up a very old tree that they deemed insulting to the silver badge. Other cops across the country are doing nothing…

[peacewithoutgod]

This just in, hundred of rouge cops in Ann Arbor started killing other cops and beheading civilians proclaiming that only cops with silver badges were true cops. A couple departments of cops from neighboring Detroit went to engage the rouge cops but as soon as they saw them they dropped their weapons and ran. Meanwhile the rouge cops, only a few of them threatened to blow up a very old tree that they deemed insulting to the silver badge. Other cops across the country are doing nothing…

Cops who wear rouge did this? Maybe that's what makes some women so emotional when they apply that to their faces! If it gets cops to behead civilians...