The Refugee Crisis

[josephpalazzo]

They are coming from a violent culture where this is normal everyday  behaviour.
We in the west think every culture is the same. No, it is not.

In the US, the immigrants are more willing to integrate. They recognize they are in a better place and are grateful to be here. Of course, there are some that falls into your criminal activity types, but these are minor. It seems that in Europe, the new arrivals are asking right way certain rights. I'm wondering if this is due to the fact that most European countries have a nanny state, so this kind of setup is perfect for abuse.

[pr126]

In the US, the immigrants are more willing to integrate. They recognize they are in a better place and are grateful to be here. Of course, there are some that falls into your criminal activity types, but these are minor. It seems that in Europe, the new arrivals are asking right way certain rights. I'm wondering if this is due to the fact that most European countries have a nanny state, so this kind of setup is perfect for abuse.

That is because they are still relatively small in numbers, compared to Europe which has already over 50 Million Muslims and more to come.
The USA has only 1 % Muslims for now. As their numbers increase in time, the attitude will change.

[josephpalazzo]

That is because they are still relatively small in numbers, compared to Europe which has already over 50 Million Muslims and more to come.
The USA has only 1 % Muslims for now. As their numbers increase in time, the attitude will change.

If you take out Albania, Bosnia-Herzegovinian, Chechnya, Kosovo and Macedonia, where you have large Muslim populations, you're down to less than 20 millions or 2.7% as average out. Granted that the present inflow is considerable and presents serious problems, but if the EU wasn't such a nanny system, the governments  would have more leeway instead of facing absurd demands from the new arrivals. The more rights you give them, the more trouble you'll get as most are not used to these rights and are more likely to abuse them then use them responsibly.

[mauricio]

Useful Idiots?

I do agree this people who naively want to accept all the migrants and refugees without thinking of the consequences or thinking that the only consequence is gonna be a small increase in taxes(yeah throwing money at it surely fixes everything) are idiots and they are useful idiots for those who want to use them. For example the media publishing that picture of a drowned kid, they got what they wanted they stirred the outrage and they got their clicks and sales. Disregard the fact that kids have been dying already in Syria for years. And for the politicians this helps to direct all the attention of people to this dead kid and the feelgood rhetoric of helping the poor refugees while ignoring their foreign policy fucks up, their proxy war going on in syria and the consequences of this mass migration.

All that said the article you linked made questionable statements and it's tone was pretty inflammatory and sensationalist and it simplifies the issue. It is the other side of the coin of the people who claim it is all about the west attacking the middle east countries, no this is a multi-factor issue. The
re's geopolitics but there's also culture, economics, the cycle of violence and Islamism.

[facebook164]

It is the immigratophobes that are the problem. Refugees are people and people mirror how they are treated. That so many writes theese posts filled with fear and hatred is very scary. Because it is that fear that will create the problem.

[pr126]

 immigratophobes


Wow! A new phobia has been discovered. Quick, get the medical journals alerted. 

Looks like we have another Social Justice Warrior. 

[mauricio]

It is the immigratophobes that are the problem. Refugees are people and people mirror how they are treated. That so many writes theese posts filled with fear and hatred is very scary. Because it is that fear that will create the problem.

so, do you not see how this current mass migration can be problematic beyond irrational xenophobic fears?

Also we already have the word xenophobia no need to make up new words.

[jonb]

immigratophobes


Wow! A new phobia has been discovered. Quick, get the medical journals alerted. 

Looks like we have another Social Justice Warrior.

No it is not a new phobia, it is just pointing to the good old fashioned paranoia you suffer from, and the woo woo you are coming out with is daft.

[facebook164]

immigratophobes


Wow! A new phobia has been discovered. Quick, get the medical journals alerted. 

Looks like we have another Social Justice Warrior.

So social justice is not important?

I

[pr126]

facebook164 wrote:

So social justice is not important?

Are you are demanding social justice from the  the "Muslim World" as well,  where minorities and women are treated less than human?
How about social justice for them?

How about you, Shiranu? Do you care?

[mauricio]

So social justice is not important?

I

Social justice warrior is an ironic term. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/social-justice-warrior

Also care to answer my question, do you not see how this current mass migration can be problematic beyond irrational xenophobic fears?

[mauricio]

here you have the SJW is his natural habitat the brainless swamp known as twitter, making an ass out of himself.



Gotta love those leaps in logic.

[josephpalazzo]

It is the immigratophobes that are the problem. Refugees are people and people mirror how they are treated. That so many writes theese posts filled with fear and hatred is very scary. Because it is that fear that will create the problem.

To narrow down the refugee crisis to fear is a little simplistic, wouldn't you think? There are many problems to this issue such as providing shelter, food, education, working skills, and a path to integration, not easy in ordinary times, and a humongus problem when the influx of new arrivals exceed the capacity of the host country. Taking into consideration that many of these new arrivals have a worldview totally different from the people in the host country, and you have the ingredients of a social, political bomb in the making.

[facebook164]

Social justice warrior is an ironic term. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/social-justice-warrior

Also care to answer my question, do you not see how this current mass migration can be problematic beyond irrational xenophobic fears?

No. Not "beyond irrational xenophobic fears" because they will never come near them. And besides its the "irrational xenophobic fears" that are the main problem. (As the current burning down of shelters show)

[pr126]

No. Not "beyond irrational xenophobic fears" because they will never come near them. And besides its the "irrational xenophobic fears" that are the main problem. (As the current burning down of shelters show)

Sources please

You have sidestepped the mistreatement of Muslim Women and the minorities in Muslim lands. Why? Don't they matter?