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Started by hilary, July 17, 2015, 11:19:12 PM

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hilary

July 17, 2015, 11:19:12 PM
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Baruch

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July 17, 2015, 11:50:14 PM Last Edit: July 17, 2015, 11:53:31 PM by Baruch
The conventional view of the Dark Ages ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLE7TDAqwg

A pro-Barbarian view ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxmFST3qSAE

The barbarians liberated Europe from the tyranny of Rome, something Jews fervently wanted for themselves.

I am just as proud of my barbarian ancestors ... as my more civilized ancestors.  Rome wasn't a golden age, except for the treasury of the Emperor.

Pagan folk would have been just as interested in stopping your freethought and atheism as a threat to the received order ... as the Roman Christians were.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

trdsf

#3
July 18, 2015, 06:14:55 AM
Civilization was a really good series, although I found more awe in Bronowski's The Ascent of Man, which was produced by the same team that later hooked up with Carl Sagan and did this little show called Cosmos...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH7SJf8BnBI
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

Baruch

#4
July 18, 2015, 09:35:48 AM
Yes ... Bronowski was the boss!  Too bad Google took down the rest of the Ascent series from YouTube.  I think it should be required watching.  Have you watched any of the interview material on YouTube that they have?  Also his daughter's encomium?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Mike Cl

#5
July 18, 2015, 12:32:39 PM
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Shiranu

#6
July 18, 2015, 01:27:17 PM
QuoteThe barbarians liberated Europe from the tyranny of Rome, something Jews fervently wanted for themselves.

The tyranny of order? Sounds terrible...
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Baruch

#7
July 18, 2015, 02:11:37 PM
Order?  Depends on who is doing the ordering.  Or are you channeling your inner dictator?  A little order is a good thing, otherwise it is fanaticism.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

trdsf

#8
July 18, 2015, 02:28:42 PM
Quote from: Baruch on July 18, 2015, 09:35:48 AM
Yes ... Bronowski was the boss!  Too bad Google took down the rest of the Ascent series from YouTube.  I think it should be required watching.  Have you watched any of the interview material on YouTube that they have?  Also his daughter's encomium?
Not the interviews, but I have seen his daughter's follow-up.  And the end of the 11th episode, Knowledge or Certainty, is certainly some of the most powerful television ever filmed:

Quote from: Dr. Jacob Bronowski
This is the concentration camp and crematorium at Auschwitz.  This is where people were turned into numbers.  Into this pond were flushed the ashes of some four million people.  And that was not done by gas.  It was done by arrogance.  It was done by dogma.  It was done by ignorance.  When people believe that they have absolute knowledge, with no test in reality, this is how they behave.

This quote is of course applicable to more nations, and more governments, and more peoples than just the Germans of the 1930s and 1940s.
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

Solitary

#9
July 18, 2015, 03:50:07 PM
So true!
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

dtq123

#10
July 18, 2015, 11:41:23 PM
I do love this, but please make a proper introduction. I'm especially interested in your background now :eyes:
A dark cloud looms over.
Festive cheer does not help much.
What is this, "Justice?"

Baruch

#11
July 19, 2015, 09:42:38 AM
dtq123 ... who are you talking to?  Solitary, trdsf, etc.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

drunkenshoe

#12
July 19, 2015, 10:00:06 AM
Welcome, Hypatia. :p
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

Sal1981

#13
July 19, 2015, 10:23:08 AM
Awe-inspiring is something no religion or faith has a patent on. Indeed their sense of awe is so insipid compared to the awe discovered by science.

dtq123

#14
July 19, 2015, 10:49:53 AM
Quote from: Baruch on July 19, 2015, 09:42:38 AM
dtq123 ... who are you talking to?  Solitary, trdsf, etc.
The OP silly~ I give excuses to Solitary, trdsf, and others because they have been around longer and I have been watching them  :shhh:
A dark cloud looms over.
Festive cheer does not help much.
What is this, "Justice?"
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