China Won’t Let Muslims Fast For Ramadan

Started by pr126, June 21, 2015, 06:27:19 AM

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pr126

China Won’t Let Muslims Fast For Ramadan [url]
QuoteAs Ramadan begins, China’s atheist government is taking extreme measures to stop its 20 to 30 million Muslim citizens from keeping the religiously mandated daytime fast.

Chinese attempts to suppress Islam have focused on Xinjiang, a majority-Muslim province in the country’s far west. Xinjiang’s locals, the Uyghurs, have their own language and culture. Some Uyghurs prefer calling Xinjiang “East Turkestan” and favor independence from China. (RELATED: China Forces Muslim Shopkeepers To Sell Liquor)

I expect trouble.
And a few dead people of course. Problem solving Islamic style.


Munch

ramadan's an example of the stupidity of that cult. forcing yourself to not eat puts certain people at risk. as a diabetic, I would literally be dead if I was a muslim forced by my family not to eat anything.
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TomFoolery

I would have thought China has a hard enough time feeding its people anyway. Why not let a tiny fraction of the population go hungry by choice?
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

pr126

Quote from: TomFoolery on June 21, 2015, 08:23:13 AM
I would have thought China has a hard enough time feeding its people anyway. Why not let a tiny fraction of the population go hungry by choice?
But the are stuffing themselves silly at night. They are probably eating more than usual.

Munch

Quote from: pr126 on June 21, 2015, 08:28:52 AM
But the are stuffing themselves silly at night. They are probably eating more than usual.

exactly, so even whatever they believe to be a 'sacred right' is stupid.
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Atheon

If there's one country that's not afraid of retaliation by Islamic extremists, it's China.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Seneca

pr126

Islamic extremists  is a euphemism for devout Muslim, who is following the Quran chapter and verse.


TomFoolery

Quote from: pr126 on June 21, 2015, 09:07:27 AM
Islamic extremists  is a euphemism for devout Muslim, who is following the Quran chapter and verse.

And I would call people who follow the Bible as closely as possible Christian terrorists.
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

Mike Cl

Quote from: TomFoolery on June 21, 2015, 10:07:14 AM
And I would call people who follow the Bible as closely as possible Christian terrorists.
I think any religious people who follow their 'scripture' literally, can rightly be called terrorists.
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Sargon The Grape

Not sure how to feel about this. On the one hand there's the whole "my body, my choice" issue to think about. On the other hand, like other religions Islam is a form of mental sickness.
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kilodelta

I can only imagine a few ways to force someone to eat during the daytime...
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Shiranu

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Quote from: pr126 on June 21, 2015, 06:27:19 AM
China Won’t Let Muslims Fast For Ramadan [url]
I expect trouble.
And a few dead people of course. Problem solving Islamic style.



Right, because terrorism against an oppressive government is a strictly Islamic thing...

Guess the Founding Fathers were all Muslims. Who woulda thunk it?

Quoteramadan's an example of the stupidity of that cult. forcing yourself to not eat puts certain people at risk. as a diabetic, I would literally be dead if I was a muslim forced by my family not to eat anything.

Yeah, learning what it's like to go hungry sure is terrible, what learning sympathy and the struggle of the poor and all... and wow, you have to give more to charity... what a TERRIBLE event.

I don't think anyone should be forced into partaking in Ramadan as is the case now, but Ramadan at it's core is probably one of the best events someone can take part of, religious or not.

The fact that people want to defend China's actions because it's against Muslims is a bit sad. China doesn't give a fuck that they don't "practice atheism" or whatever, all they care about is this is a different group of people that doesn't accept our leadership, therefor we will oppress them in any way possible to get back at them.
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Mermaid

Striving to prevent someone from practicing their religion is no different than someone invading your space with their religion.

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pr126

18 killed in Uighur knife and gun attack in China

QuoteAt least 18 people were killed when ethnic Uighurs attacked police with knives and bombs after speeding through a traffic checkpoint in a car in China’s troubled Xinjiang region, Radio Free Asia reported on Wednesday.

The attack took place on Monday at the beginning of the Muslim fasting month of Ramzan in Xinjiang’s Kashgar city, an RFA Uighur service said. Tensions in the southern city between Muslim Uighurs, who call the region home, and the majority Han Chinese have led to bloodshed in recent years.

Armed police responded to the attack and killed 15 suspects ‘designated as terrorists’, said RFA. .

However, an unnamed retired government worker was quoted as saying that he had heard from a police officer that “28 people were killed in the incident, including six attackers and three police, while the others were all bystanders.”

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang told reporters that he could not immediately verify the report. “But if it is correct, then the government has the responsibility to take resolute steps to stop these violent terror acts, to maintain peace and stability in Xinjiang,” Lu said.

State media tight-lipped

“It seems the police who arrived at the spot were either panicked or encouraged by the ‘strike hard’ policy, because they opened fire indiscriminately and many people who were not linked to the attackers got killed,” he said.

China’s tightly-controlled state media has so far not reported the attack.






Sargon The Grape

Quote from: pr126 on June 25, 2015, 12:26:39 PM
18 killed in Uighur knife and gun attack in China
Can't really blame them for trying. The Uighurs were there before the Chinese, and they don't want to be a part of China. The fact that China is forbidding their religious practices is just one more thing to enrage these people. It's no wonder they're attacking the authorities.
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