Athiest Morality

[Givemeareason]

I wish you'd stop trying to confuse yourself

I know!  I am trying to stop that now and I don't need any help from you people trying to confuse me again.

[Mike Cl]

All I am saying is that we should preach what we practice and not say otherwise.  So if we we practice Hate thy Neighbor that becomes our moral standard at least while we are on this board.  I wish people would stop trying to confuse me.

Come on, Giveme!  People don't confuse you--you confuse yourself.  You must wake up every morning to a new and wondrous and confusing world. 

[DeathandGrim]

Exactly.  We have no moral compass so whatever morality we hold within ourselves becomes more difficult for others to observe.

THAT'S OUR MORAL COMPASS, FOR FUCKS SAKE.

We make our own moral compass and alot of us have similar morals without even comparing. Alot of it comes from Empathy and Pragmatism. It's called being an independent adult.

Except when we profess a moral position such that others can see and hold us to that standard.

Right.

Christians though are committed to a standard by which they can be held to that standard by being observed as not conforming to it.

I'm venturing to say 100% of current Christians don't follow the morals of their religion.

And which we delight in pointing out to them. 

Um. I guess?

But meanwhile we utter whatever moral position we like often with the intent of deceiving people.

The fuck are you to tell me I often have the intent of deceiving? You're just like the Christians who assert everyone in the world is some baby raping monster and asking us what's stopping us from destroying everything?

Get some common sense. A great majority of people are not conniving assholes and have integrity.

[Givemeareason]

 

THAT'S OUR MORAL COMPASS, FOR FUCKS SAKE.

We make our own moral compass and alot of us have similar morals without even comparing. Alot of it comes from Empathy and Pragmatism. It's called being an independent adult.
 

Right.


I'm venturing to say 100% of current Christians don't follow the morals of their religion.

Um. I guess?

The fuck are you to tell me I often have the intent of deceiving? You're just like the Christians who assert everyone in the world is some baby raping monster and asking us what's stopping us from destroying everything?

Get some common sense. A great majority of people are not conniving assholes and have integrity.

I don't know anything about YOUR moral compass but judging from your reaction it seems a bit self righteous.

[DeathandGrim]

I don't know anything about YOUR moral compass but judging from your reaction it seems a bit self righteous.

Self righteous and human. I have a very high opinion of myself and tend to think so of others.

[Givemeareason]

Self righteous and human. I have a very high opinion of myself and tend to think so of others.

So how do you think well of others when you think you are the only one who is right?

[DeathandGrim]

So how do you think well of others when you think you are the only one who is right?

This doesn't work on someone who doesn't absorb it and overthink it.

The two have no correlation to each other. And who said I thought I was the only one that was right?

[Givemeareason]

This doesn't work on someone who doesn't absorb it and overthink it.

The two have no correlation to each other. And who said I thought I was the only one that was right?

You just said you were self rightious.  That's what Christians become in their beliefs.  They are unable to understand they might not be right.  So why would you want to be that way also?

[doorknob]

Morality is subjective even to the religious as they pick and choose what is moral from their holy book. Atheists much choose what is moral based on experience which is still faulty but a bit more reliable than the bible or any other holy book.

[DeathandGrim]

 

You just said you were self rightious.  That's what Christians become in their beliefs.  They are unable to understand they might not be right.  So why would you want to be that way also?

I put none above me. Nobody should, you're you 24/7/365/2000 so you should be your top priority.

But does that make me above others?

I am very self confident and am willing to change my views at the same time. But I don't take a super moral highground (allow me to backtrack)

[Givemeareason]

Morality is subjective even to the religious as they pick and choose what is moral from their holy book. Atheists much choose what is moral based on experience which is still faulty but a bit more reliable than the bible or any other holy book.

I am not so sure about that.  I have even heard claims that morality is self evident.

[Givemeareason]

I put none above me. Nobody should, you're you 24/7/365/2000 so you should be your top priority.

But does that make me above others?

I am very self confident and am willing to change my views at the same time. But I don't take a super moral highground (allow me to backtrack)

I will not argue with a god of death.

[DeathandGrim]

I will not argue with a god of death.

You've chosen wisely

[Givemeareason]

You've chosen wisely

Hahahaha.  That was good. :-)

[Aupmanyav]

All atheists are immoral, and their immorality increases with their atheism. Strong atheists are demons. They do not have a soul.

p.s.: I am one of them.