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Started by satyesu, April 14, 2015, 11:37:49 AM

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satyesu

I'm not saying prophecies are valid or not, but from what I've read it seems like they are made just about the future, not before this or that. Am I wrong?

Mike Cl

Quote from: satyesu on April 14, 2015, 11:37:49 AM
I'm not saying prophecies are valid or not, but from what I've read it seems like they are made just about the future, not before this or that. Am I wrong?
What??????
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Solitary

What? If they are not before this or that they have to be about the future. However, if it is predicted that something will happen in the future and it hasn't happened for 2,000+ years, it is reasonable to say it won't happened, no matter how many people think it will. Solitary
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

SGOS

Yeah, I would at least expect a date from any prophet worth his salt.  Modern day prophets are better about it than Biblical prophets.  They often specify and exact date for the end of the world, but when the date passes without incident, it reduces the punch of the prophecy.  The ancients didn't deal with exact dates.  Many of them didn't even know what the day of the week was at any given time.  Anyway, not being specific makes it more spooky and ominous.  A good Biblical prophecy needs to be spooky and ominous.  It adds to the mystery.

Youssuf Ramadan

Prophecies tend to have well-oiled wheels....

Mike Cl

All prophesies have one thing in common.  None have proved accurate.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

antediluvian

Quote from: Mike Cl on April 14, 2015, 02:06:37 PM
All prophesies have one thing in common.  None have proved accurate.

I prophesies  that you will post in this forum again
I always wondered why having balls was equated with "strength".  Balls are sensitive and delicate, actually.   Better to grow a vagina.  Those things can take a pounding - and pop out a live human being the size of a watermelon.

Mike Cl

Quote from: antediluvian on April 14, 2015, 02:35:13 PM
I prophesies  that you will post in this forum again
Yeah, I'll post again.  But what you made was a prediction.  The weather man makes those all the time.  You can even give a percentage chance of success--just as the weather is often forecast.  Prophecy is different.  A prophet is one who has a pipeline to god and is giving the message.  Apparently god is too lazy to broadcast this message--he only have the time and energy to give it to one. And a prophecy is never, ever wrong--Why?, cause it's from god, dummy.  But as I already said--none have come to pass.  But for some reason, failure in their prophets or prophecies, or the tenets of their belief, simply makes the faithful stronger in their faith.  Faith seems to be a very special, and strong, form of blindness.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

kilodelta

God said a dark man will rise in the West and participate in a war based on hate and greed. Afterwards, the large city of the north will tremble. People will become malcontented and rebellion will be spoken. Then a giant ant will fly from the sun and devour the Earth.
Faith: pretending to know things you don't know

Mike Cl

Quote from: kilodelta on April 14, 2015, 03:03:15 PM
God said a dark man will rise in the West and participate in a war based on hate and greed. Afterwards, the large city of the north will tremble. People will become malcontented and rebellion will be spoken. Then a giant ant will fly from the sun and devour the Earth.
Oh yeah.  I forgot about that one.  Okay--one prophecy was right.  But that's it.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

GSOgymrat



Quote from: kilodelta on April 14, 2015, 03:03:15 PM
God said a dark man will rise in the West and participate in a war based on hate and greed. Afterwards, the large city of the north will tremble. People will become malcontented and rebellion will be spoken. Then a giant ant will fly from the sun and devour the Earth.

A war based on hate and greed seems a bit improbable but a giant sun ant devouring the Earth is absolutely how it's all gonna go down.

Unbeliever

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aitm

A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

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