help!

[galileo]

Allow me to introduce myself.  I am Galileo (after 500 years of iteration).  You can review my atheist credentials at my website: (rules violation - sorry)  The centerpiece of that website is a meme that summarizes the series of events that have resulted in the realm of existence in which we now dwell.  It is in essence the story of our existence and of us.  The telling of that story arises from my observation and conclusion that, with regard to matters existential, it is not sufficient to merely say what is not (e.g., Hume), but it is equally necessary to delineate what is (e.g., Darwin).  Perhaps you can confirm that conclusion with the leading exponent of evolutionary theory, Richard Dawkins.  I have attempted to do just that, but to no effect.  At any rate, I am operating on the premise that I have concluded correctly, and that any credible worldview must necessarily be grounded in truth, or based upon reasoned speculation about what can be taken to be true.  In other words, the basis for any particular belief has to be something more than its mere appeal to one or another member of our species.  We are now in fact the beneficiaries of 500 years of forensic evidence gathered and deduced by the greatest minds in science that humanity has thus far been able to muster.  It is that body of evidence that is the basis for the worldview offered at my website.

I come to you seeking collaboration in furtherance of the Fossilization Movement, a global youth movement that has as its objective eradication of worldwide terrorism, as discussed at my website.  The premise is straightforward.  It is nonsense (belief in ghosts) that provides the platform and venue for terrorism.  When nonsense is erased from human thinking, terrorism goes away with it.  I suspect that the revolutionary appeal of Fossilization among the 18 to 30 crowd will wash away the superstition and fear of older generations of “living fossils”, and with it the nonsense that fuels terrorism.  Hence, it seems to me that what is needed is to trend Fossilization within social media to create a tsunami-like following for it.  Unfortunately, being of a mind that tweeting is for twits, I am hardly the guy for the job.  Frankly, I wouldn’t even know how to get started.  Help!

Keep up the good work.  I do believe that you are on the right track!
Cheers, Galileo

[SGOS]

Galileo, take heart.  A recent Pope has forgiven you.  He has forgiven you for being right (like being right is a sin or something).  He's a very gracious Pope for forgiving you, don't you think?  Wow!  There is nothing so gracious as the Catholic Church.  You are no longer an abomination in the eyes of God.  The Pope has pardoned you.

[aitm]

Yes yes, carry on.

[Solitary]

Welcome aboard Galileo! What would really enable us to turn on licentious thinkers and cultists, those abusers of their own minds and enemies to ours, and show them to be wrong? Where is this moonlit and dream-visited planet are objectivity and certainty to be found---on Kolob perhaps? Solitary

[Solomon Zorn]

Welcome aboard Galileo! What would really enable us to turn on licentious thinkers and cultists, those abusers of their own minds and enemies to ours, and show them to be wrong? Where is this moonlit and dream-visited planet are objectivity and certainty to be found---on Kolob perhaps? Solitary

Idealism. I am a sucker for it I guess. I say give the guy a break for being well-intentioned.

Welcome galileo!

BTW, you can link to your website on your profile, I believe.

[stromboli]

Yo.

[Solitary]

Idealism. I am a sucker for it I guess. I say give the guy a break for being well-intentioned.

Welcome galileo!

BTW, you can link to your website on your profile, I believe.

Please explain to me how I wasn't being receptive to him by what I had written! Did you not understand it maybe? Seriously, I don't understand how I wasn't giving him a break.  I was talking about the people he doesn't agree with, not him---you know cults and people that are in some dream world and not reality on this earth. I guess I shouldn't write like a philosopher like he does so people can understand what I mean. GIVE ME A BREAK!  Solitary

[Solomon Zorn]

Sorry, Sol, I thought you were mocking his "Fossilization Movement" idea. I think I see what you meant now.

[Mr.Obvious]

Welcome Galileo, to our little band of heathens.
Yes, self-advertising from the get-go is against the rules. But at least you made an introductionary thread.

So welcome :)

[Solitary]

Sorry, Sol, I thought you were mocking his "Fossilization Movement" idea. I think I see what you meant now.

Sorry, Sol, I thought you were mocking his "Fossilization Movement" idea. I think I see what you meant now.

No problem, it is very easy on the internet to come across different then what you meant. This is a problem in philosophy and debate, what abstract words really mean. Sarcasm is a real problem when posting also. Idealist think that Realist are Pessimist for example. He! He! Solitary

[Green Bottle]

Welcome Galileo....

[Mike Cl]

hmmm--is he another 1 post drive-by?????

[galileo]

I’m reviewing the comments on my post and I have to say that I don’t get it.  My post carried the simple assertion that, in light of the fact that the venue for worldwide terrorism is nonsense (ie, belief in ghosts), that terrorism can be eliminated quite directly through merciless ridicule of nonsense by younger generations, age 18 to 30.  I frankly do not view it as much of a stretch to call youth to rebellion in putting down the worldview of old farts.

So, my questions to those of you who have posted comments are:
(1) does global terrorism pose any concern for you?
And
(2) do you accept the premise that nonsense (religion) is uniquely the platform for terrorism (in the sense that terrorism is only present when and where nonsense is present - when you have the one, you have the other, and when you do not have the one, you do not have the other - they are inseparable)?

For that I will offer for your consideration the barbarity of the so-called Inca and Mayan “civilizations”, to both of which we might bid our very good riddance!  My website presents an essay entitled "The Two Faces of God" that offers an explicit Darwinian explanation for why it is that religion has taken root in the psyche of humanity.  If you answered "yes" and "yes" to the foregoing questions, can I get a witness?  Further, can I get the assistance of atheists in globalizing Fossilization.  It strikes me as a two-fer.  We get to kill terrorism and religion with a single silver bullet.  All that has to happen is that the youth of this planet stand up and say: "bullshit to your nonsense!"  As an old fart myself, I can't do it - technology has passed me by.  I need your help.

So, my dear fellow atheists, lets keep those tweets coming, shall we?

Cheers, galileo

[aitm]

Whether the 21st or the 11th century, religion is simply being used as the catalyst. Poverty leads to disillusion, disillusion can be used to bring like minded together to fight for a way out of poverty. Here perhaps the low-level wealthy of the Muslim nutjobs get money sent to them for their ability to disrupt the society or culture or economy for the sake perhaps of the uber rich to keep destabilization of the area. Perhaps indeed, the uber-rich send their own money to the "enemy" to keep certain items like oil or gas in fluctuation or stagnant whatever may benefit them the most. How many people die is not important to them. Whole countries I suspect are in concert to either eliminate terrorism or to keep it going as a way to maintain what control they have over the oil barrel.

[stromboli]

Your link. I can post it.

http://galileos-revenge.com/note-2/

Well forgive me for sticking a pin in your balloon there, Galileo, but you need to downsize your thinking a tad. First of all this is a forum of individuals that come from disparate backgrounds and different situations that led us here. We are not per se a recruitable army of activists. There is a big age range from high school to well past retirement. We are, in the vernacular of the day, a herd of cats. We do not line up or snap to attention as a group.

Secondly, your "rise to the call" attitude is fine, but lacks methodology to go with it. Rising to a challenge, save world, etc. is fine, but you need a plan. You need some form of a system or method that allows people to "get on board" in a more specific way. I'm afraid I find your scheme to be a bit nebulous.

you need to hook up with Secular Humanists in a more formal way. Visit their websites, places that are specifically proactive to change. We are a forum, we discuss stuff. This isn't the action front I think you are looking for.