Malaysia Airliner Crashes In Ukraine

Started by Shiranu, July 17, 2014, 02:20:33 PM

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stromboli

Quote from: Shiranu on July 17, 2014, 02:20:33 PM

Really getting sick of how the American media is obsessing over the fact that there were bodies and body parts stewn all over the place though... there is no need for that shock-gore porn. We get it, an airline crashed (and possibly exploded)... that is what happens, move on and don't exploit those people's suffering for your own ratings.

Or there might actually have been bodies and body parts strewn all over the place. Sounds like accurate reporting to me.

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And the right wing nilly willies are already blaming Obama for being weak with Putin AS IF he should have started WWIII over this..
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Quote from: stromboli on July 20, 2014, 09:37:01 PM
Or there might actually have been bodies and body parts strewn all over the place. Sounds like accurate reporting to me.

I'm sorry, but how is that relevant?

We know what happens when a plane crashes, there is a car wreck or there is a school shooting... there will be bodies, there will be blood. There is no need to fetish-sise that shit and go into details. Maybe say once, "Yeah, there are bodies all over the place" but there is no need to go on and on about how the bodies were torn to shreds, limbs scattered here in there, you can tell this part of the body from that part of the body, they saw a burning torso buried under some rubble, etc. etc. like the media did.

Call me crazy, but I just don't see how that is relevant to the story, all that is is shock-gore pornography to get ratings and push an agenda, and while I realize it works it also shows zero journalistic integrity.

There are only two important details in the story; A plane crashed with 290-some aboard and the cause of it going down are unknown. How fucked up the bodies got is not relevant to the story and is both disrespectful to the families of the dead and is just really appealing to the lowest common denominator of humanity. I realize its a business so they are going to do that, but just like when we say "Fuck Wall Street" or "Fuck Walmart" or whatever... I have every right to feel this deserves just as big of "Fuck you" to the media.
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Quote from: Shiranu on July 20, 2014, 11:36:47 PM
A plane crashed with 290-some aboard and the cause of it going down are unknown. How fucked up the bodies got is not relevant to the story and is both disrespectful to the families of the dead and is just really appealing to the lowest common denominator of humanity. I realize its a business so they are going to do that, but just like when we say "Fuck Wall Street" or "Fuck Walmart" or whatever... I have every right to feel this deserves just as big of "Fuck you" to the media.
The body parts part of the story not only appeals to lowest common denominator, but also to the public at large.  It's shocking, grotesque, and creates a visceral response.  Unfortunately, in this case, it might be the only substantial fact being reported in the whole story. 

Most of the reporting seems to be about what people are speculating, and it's a good thing too.  Otherwise, viewers would have no idea what they should speculate about.  As the media loads the public with irrelevant information, some speculations become more popular than others.  This gives the politicians a sense of what they can spin to demonize the opposition party and to gain votes for themselves. 

It also, demands more air time and allows the media to utilize additional experts that are constantly standing by to be experts on whatever it is they are required to be experts about:  "This evening we have with us in the studio, Norman Putz, from Columbia University Law School, who is an expert on Ukrainians that Shoot Down Civilian Aircraft, which is an on going problem he has been studying for 17 years.  Tell us, Dr. Putz, why is this a problem?"

AllPurposeAtheist

It's a huge part of the propaganda spin. Without blood, gore and guts and grossing people out how else do you expect the government to be able to talk 17 and 18 year old kids to go be willing to die for your 'FREEDOM'?
It's standard fare in the prelude to war. Make it so utterly repulsive everyone will be glad to send their neighbors kids off to die.
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