Can God have skills that All-knowing, and at the same time All powerful

Started by EnvireMental, June 24, 2014, 12:31:42 AM

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EnvireMental

The word will not be changed with Me, and never will I be unjust to the servants." Qaf 29

[This is] the established way of Allah with those who passed on before; and you will not find in the way of Allah any change. al-ahzab 62

And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing. an-am 115

For them are good tidings in the worldly life and in the Hereafter. No change is there in the words of Allah . That is what is the great attainment. yunus 64

AND

And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]." But most of them do not know. an-nahl 101

Allah eliminates what He wills or confirms, and with Him is the Mother of the Book. ar-ra'd 39

We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent? al baqarah 106



the answer is ''he can't''. logically. because totologic.

0. year.----------123------1209----------2014------>infinity.(timeline)
this is our Time understanding.

if God know all of the everything time at ''zero''(because he is all-knowing),
he can't change it at the time ''2014''( so, he cant be all powerful) 
however, if God is all-powerful,
he can't be all knowing at the time zero...THıs is what totology is...

simple...


so i mean, don't pray unncessarily :D:D








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EnvireMental

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Nam

Are you one of those Muslims who pretend they aren't Muslim and secretly proselytize others?

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EnvireMental

Quote from: Nam on June 24, 2014, 03:08:33 AM
Are you one of those Muslims who pretend they aren't Muslim and secretly proselytize others?

-Nam

this is very naive suppose.

i actually a member of exclusive clup Illuminaty.. are you satisfeid?

Nam

Quote from: EnvireMental on June 24, 2014, 03:19:07 AM
this is very naive suppose.

i actually a member of exclusive clup Illuminaty.. are you satisfeid?

(bold mine)

Is that where they teach you bad English; and also make everything you say sound like you are a Muslim?

-Nam
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EnvireMental

bro, seriously, go to an english language forum. and hunt their misspelling. that what you do best.

here i just share ideas.

and, where do you learn identifing people reading how he writes. pls teach me. just look at what i writes you uneducatable idiot.

Ferrin

Quote from: EnvireMental on June 24, 2014, 03:39:32 AM
bro, seriously, go to an english language forum. and hunt their misspelling. that what you do best.

here i just share ideas.

and, where do you learn identifing people reading how he writes. pls teach me. just look at what i writes you uneducatable idiot.

It's important to use a language both parties can understand in order to communicate properly. If not, you're likely misunderstanding each other which will make the conversation pointless.

Nam

Quote from: EnvireMental on June 24, 2014, 03:39:32 AM
bro, seriously, go to an english language forum. and hunt their misspelling. that what you do best.

here i just share ideas.

and, where do you learn identifing people reading how he writes. pls teach me. just look at what i writes you uneducatable idiot.

Did you get someone else to write this for you, bro?

-Nam
Mad cow disease...it's not just for cows, or the mad!

Nam

Quote from: Ferrin on June 24, 2014, 07:43:01 AM
It's important to use a language both parties can understand in order to communicate properly. If not, you're likely misunderstanding each other which will make the conversation pointless.

I understand him just fine, even that "Muslim fantasy" nonsense. I'm just attempting to push him hard enough to where he'll finally admit he's being dishonest in believing he writes to where everyone can understand him--which he seems adament not doing. That, and he does attempt to make every point he makes as being a philosophical statement of genius when it just reads as nonsense.

-Nam
Mad cow disease...it's not just for cows, or the mad!

EnvireMental

i think it's less dangerous having faith than having preconceived opinion blindly in your head.

there is no difference between you and a fanatical catholic, or a fanatical muslim.

you are exactly the same mentality.

pls don't say yourself an atheist. it's shame for atheism.

Nam

Quote from: EnvireMental on June 24, 2014, 05:29:43 PM
i think it's less dangerous having faith than having preconceived opinion blindly in your head.

there is no difference between you and a fanatical catholic, or a fanatical muslim.

you are exactly the same mentality.

pls don't say yourself an atheist. it's shame for atheism.

You're an idiot.

-Nam
Mad cow disease...it's not just for cows, or the mad!


Nam

Mad cow disease...it's not just for cows, or the mad!