Started by Shiranu, February 13, 2023, 05:19:13 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 25, 2023, 06:33:02 PMI think the main problem is a lack of common reference point.When studying biology, especially at the molecular scale, the obvious analogy is to machines - flagellum "motors", the electrical nervous system is like the wires snaking through an electronic device, bone joints like hinges, potassium pumps somewhat like...well, you get the idea. Hence, Shiranu's comparison.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_machine
Quote from: ManUfan on February 26, 2023, 03:15:54 PMYes it's a comparison. But we are talking about machinery taking control of everything aren't we?For that to happen machinery would have to be totally independent and not need human intervention.
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 26, 2023, 04:59:34 PMI mean, Shiranu brought up the example of a Turkish drone that killed people autonomously. There was also a South Korean (IIRC) turret that could identify and engage targets without any sort of human prompting. And then there's self-driving cars, but I suppose you can say (for now) that they're just driving down a pre-plotted course (which is what I do as well)
Quote from: ManUfan on February 26, 2023, 05:21:06 PMYeah but do self driving cars suffer from road rage?Do they slam on the brakes when they think the driver behind is tailgating?Do they stop off at KFC? etc etc etc.
QuoteDrones don't just fly around killing for the fun of it. There's programming involved. It didn't program itself that's science fiction.
Quote from: Shiranu on February 26, 2023, 06:03:52 PMNot yet, but it only takes one malicious actor to cause them to intentionally suffer catastrophic failure - or worse yet, to do exactly what they were programmed to do even if it doesn't meet the morals and ethics of any healthy human being.That's not even getting into glitches, hardware failure, coding mistakes, and other points of failure that get created the more complex a system gets.What happens when someone with the ideological views of say... Iran, Saudi Arabia, China, or any plethora of smaller terrorist organizations - decide to program them "for the fun of it" on targets the deem fair game?
QuoteHumans are in control of AI.
QuoteYes there can possibly be glitches/malfunctions but that doesn't mean that AI has a mind of it's own or feelings.
Quote from: Shiranu on February 26, 2023, 06:51:16 PMOppenhauer created the atomic bomb out of curiosity, and found himself to be akin to Shiva taken form of Death itself, destroyer of worlds.How many times can we rush into technology without being ready to wield the power it brings; how often can we press our luck before we bust?
Quote from: Shiranu on February 27, 2023, 01:15:19 PMWell, well, well - speak of the electronic devil.
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Quote from: Mike Cl on March 19, 2023, 04:33:24 PMReminds me of a very good game--Horizon Zero Dawn. The world is recovering from an almost total destruction at the hands of a run-away machine AI gone into total destruction mode. A tribe of 'evil' people are reviving (accidental discovery) the old AI thinking they can use it to gain control of the other tribes. It is up to a little girl (and her dad, who is soon dead) to figure out how to stop it this time. Have over 1,000 hours in the game and will probably play it again in 6/8 months.