Anti-Communism

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Ah, ok. I didn't know that that was his "shorthand".

EVERYBODY called him "FDR" back in the day. (Along with less polite epithets from the hard right.)

[the_antithesis]

Ah, ok. I didn't know that that was his "shorthand".

Are you from Yugoslavia or something? Americans all know him as FDR because we're too lazy to say the full name.

[Blackleaf]

The obsession with communism is kind of ridiculous. We should be more concerned with fascism. Violent, corrupt regimes, like what Russia has. Because of the Right's obsession with Communism, they fail to recognize their own enemies, including the ones grabbing for absolute power in our own country.

[the_antithesis]

Well, fascism is a political ideology and communism is an economic ideology. So they're adjacent but not the same or necessarily mutually exclusive.

All of this is moot since the USSR has collapsed decades ago and our president and his cronies are Russian assets.

[Shiranu]

There has never been a single more efficient system of governance for the wholesale extermination of humans and the destruction of the environment than communism - it is the bloody ideals of the 1700-1800 made manifest in their most brutish and rudimentary of form.

[Blackleaf]

There has never been a single more efficient system of governance for the wholesale extermination of humans and the destruction of the environment than communism - it is the bloody ideals of the 1700-1800 made manifest in their most brutish and rudimentary of form.

There has. It's called America. Nearly every violent dictator in existence was put in power as a puppet for American interests. It happens every single time a country tries to go socialist.

For example, who put Augusto Pinochet in power? Every single death under his regime is on America's hands.

[Shiranu]

As the Soviet Union withdrew from Manchuria in 1946 they left hundreds of captured Japanese tanks, airplanes, artillery pieces and hundreds of thousands of small arms and ammunition to be donated to the PLA; from 1945 to 1949 the Soviet Union would donate up to $4,000,000,000 in modern dollars to ensure Mao's success over the Kuomintang.

Cambodia's Communist parties were assisted by both the the Chinese and the Soviet Union - overthrowing the Khmer Republic established in 1970 with the communist Khmer Rouge after 30 years of conflict for control of the country.

Al Khomeini in Iran; Kim in North Korea; Al Asad in Syria, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, Julius Malema in South Africa, Mugabe in Zimbabwe...

Almost "every violent dictator in existence" is within the current sphere of the Marxist globe, not the West; and their death toll exceeds by magnitudes anything America instigated.

Take the 3 bloodiest communist regimes and you have more death than the 30 bloodiest dictatorships elsewhere.

[Shiranu]

Or in other words...

Compared to communist regimes, Pinochet looks like Jimmy Carter. 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Never killed a fascist. If I did it wouldn't have been my first choice, Mom was used to having him around.

[Shiranu]

Perhaps it's a media amplification bias - that the "communists" in America seem more a problem than they are due to the media giving self-identified Marxists the mega-phone?

As of writing, there are currently 7 sitting members of the Democratic Socialists of America political organization in Congress; Greg Casar, Jamaal Bowman, Rashida Tlaib, Ocasio-Cortez, Cori Bush, Summer Lee, and Bernie Sanders.

Outside of the DSA but in a majority voting consensus with them, other major voices include Ilhan Omar (more on her in a bit,) Ayanna Pressley, Pramila Jayapal, Ro Khanna, Barbara Lee, Mark Pocan, Elizabeth Warren, and Ed Markey - several being very notable instigators and defenders of not just racist thought and racist violence but in also (at least offering) legal defenses for rioters. 

We have watched communists march through the streets of Philly, Baltimore, Austin - we have watched billions of dollars in property damage done by leftist revolutionaries across the nation, watched as criminals have been given commuted sentences so that they can go murder and abuse someone else by progressive judges, listened to the dehumanizing language of leftists not just about us but of minority and vulnerable groups that don't vote as they were told to or have a complexion not to their liking.

I recently read a post by another individual who had escaped the radical left; and in it he said something I fear may be true - the only escape is through banishment, you cannot be reasoned out of the ideology. The reality is they wield weapon so awesome in power and scope that until it has been trained on you... you simply cannot understand the magnitude of the machine you have found yourself turned into a cog for nor can you even understand the purpose of it's horrible design.

Revolutionists dominate the media sphere; Revisionists dominate the academic world; and another certain R leads the political movement that grows in America and has dominated Europe into a sick joke of what it once was

That's if I had to give a short answer of why Americans are tired of "communists..."

[Shiranu]

(Also, forgot to get back to Ilhan Omar - long story short, her father was a colonel for the Marxist "Scientific Socialist" Siad Barre, a brutal dictator in Somalia overthrown in 1990 that lead to her family being expelled from the country.

Or we could mention Kamala Harris' father being a 3-decades and globally decorated Marxist professor, Jamie Raskin family being linked to the radical pedology and left-wing think tanks of the 1970s, the Democrats handing of the Middle East and Africa to communist and socialist regimes over the decades, etc.)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

On the inner lip of my gun tub there was a handwritten comment: "I'm not a Communist but I used to kill them."

Wasn't personal.

[ElectricMonk]

Hi everyone, joined just up on recommendation from a member.
And primarily to give this thread my 2 cents.

Please indulge me.

[ElectricMonk]

I think in the OP, the terms "communist" and "capitalist" are being applied in a very arbitrary way. For starters, neither is a type of government; one is a way to profit from lending or investing private property, the other is the organization and sharing of work and profits on the level of a small enterprise.

Maybe it would make more sense to separate Democratic and Autocratic regimes.

If not, then there are a lot of countries that really shouldn't be considered Communist (as the economy and profits are controlled by a single leader or elite, not by the workers), and a lot of countries that should be considered Capitalist.

The entire Trans Atlantic Slave Trade was a Capitalist project. So was the extermination and enslavement of Middle and South America for the extraction of precious metals. The Dutch and British East India Companies were Capitalist companies with the power and possessions of countries. And the extraction of Rubber from the Congo by King Leopold II of Belgium was a Capitalist project run by the ruler of a country.
And, of course, depending on your definitions, Nazi Germany was Capitalist.


All these together have a toll of death and misery that can easily hold up to whatever atrocities one wants to attribute to "Communist Regimes", even when most of them are just Autocracies.

[Unbeliever]

The "Opium war," when Britain forced China to trade their tea for the opium from India, was also a capitalist enterprise.