Started by Jagella, March 13, 2020, 12:34:30 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2020, 01:07:50 PMAsk them why THEIR version of Christianity is the right one.
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 13, 2020, 01:29:35 PMWe get Christians once in a while, and sometimes a Muslim will come here to make assertions about their religion, but that's all they can ever do is assert, and expect us to believe them. They have no arguments, but they often believe that they do, so they come here to try them out on us. They don't usually stay for long.
Quote from: aitm on March 13, 2020, 05:03:07 PMwell we got a JW now......have fun.
Quote from: Jagella on March 13, 2020, 12:34:30 PMSo far I can say I really like this forum. Not only do I get a lot of sensible feedback from the other members, but the mods do not interfere with the discussions here. I recently left another forum because of such interference. If I'm invited into a discussion board, I want to freely discuss the issues. I'm glad that so far at least I'm free to speak my mind.To make this forum even better, I'd like to see more religious members who can argue for their faith. I really enjoy debating Christians.
Quote from: Holubice on April 12, 2020, 08:37:19 PMI don't want only you listen to me, I want also, in a very short time, you will help me to advice, to alert, as many people as it is possible.
Quote from: Holubice on April 12, 2020, 08:37:19 PMAs I'm sure we are in danger, and we have really a few time be left.
Quote from: Holubice on April 12, 2020, 08:37:19 PMThat's why I am so assertive and, sometimes, rude. Because I'm sure the present situation,
Quote from: Holubice on April 12, 2020, 08:37:19 PMI thank you Jagella,But I wanna be honest with you, and with your mates: I don't want only you listen to me, I want also, in a very short time, you will help me to advice, to alert, as many people as it is possible. As I'm sure we are in danger, and we have really a few time be left.That's why I am so assertive and, sometimes, rude. Because I'm sure the present situation, this Pandemic nobody is really able to stop, nowhere, it is just the Beginning of the End. In other words, we will see soon these disasters, and in this order:Attention: mystic content[spoiler] 1 And Jesus being come out of the temple, went away. And his disciples came to shew him the buildings of the temple.2 And he answering, said to them: Do you see all these things? Amen I say to you, there shall not be left here a stone upon a stone that shall not be destroyed.3 And when he was sitting on mount Olivet, the disciples came to him privately, saying: Tell us when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the consummation of the world?4 And Jesus answering, said to them: Take heed that no man seduce you.5 For many will come in my name saying, I am Christ. And they will seduce many.6 And you shall hear of wars and rumours of wars. See that ye be not troubled. For these things must come to pass: but the end is not yet.7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: And there shall be pestilences and famines and earthquakes in places.8 Now all these are the beginnings of sorrows.9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted and shall put you to death: and you shall be hated by all nations for my nameâ€™s sake.10 And then shall many be scandalized and shall betray one another and shall hate one another.11 And many false prophets shall rise and shall seduce many.12 And because iniquity hath abounded, the charity of many shall grow cold.13 But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved.14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world, for a testimony to all nations: and then shall the consummation come.15 When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand.16 Then they that are in Judea, let them flee to the mountains:17 And he that is on the housetop, let him not come down to take any thing out of his house:18 And he that is in the field, let him not go back to take his coat.19 And woe to them that are with child and that give suck in those days.20 But pray that your flight be not in the winter or on the sabbath.21 For there shall be then great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, neither shall be.22 And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh should be saved: but for the sake of the elect those days shall be shortened.23 Then if any man shall say to you, Lo here is Christ, or there: do not believe him.24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.25 Behold I have told it to you, beforehand.26 If therefore they shall say to you, Behold he is in the desert: go ye not out. Behold he is in the closets: believe it not.27 For as lightning cometh out of the east and appeareth even into the west: so shall also the cowling of the Son of man be.28 Wheresoever the body shall be, there shall the eagles also be gathered together.29 And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light and the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of heaven shall be moved.30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven. And then shall all tribes of the earth mourn: and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with much power and majesty.31 And he shall send his angels with a trumpet and a great voice: and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the farthest parts of the heavens to the utmost bounds of them.32 And from the fig tree learn a parable: When the branch thereof is now tender and the leaves come forth, you know that summer is nigh.33 So you also, when you shall see all these things, know ye that it is nigh, even at the doors.34 Amen I say to you that this generation shall not pass till all these things be done.35 Heaven and earth shall pass: but my words shall not pass.36 But of that day and hour no one knoweth: no, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.37 And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.38 For, as in the days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, even till that day in which Noe entered into the ark:39 And they knew not till the flood came and took them all away: so also shall the coming of the Son of man be.40 Then two shall be in the field. One shall be taken and one shall be left.41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill. One shall be taken and one shall be left.42 Watch ye therefore, because you know not what hour your Lord will come.43 But this know ye, that, if the goodman of the house knew at what hour the thief would come, he would certainly watch and would not suffer his house to be broken open.44 Wherefore be you also ready, because at what hour you know not the Son of man will come[/spoiler]
Quote from: Sal1981 on April 13, 2020, 11:11:22 AMThe Covid-19 pandemic won't kill us all, seeing as its mortality rate is around 2%-3%. Were you around 102 years ago, you would've said the same thing about the Spanish flu pandemic.
Quote from: Holubice on April 12, 2020, 08:37:19 PMI thank you Jagella,But I wanna be honest with you, and with your mates: I don't want only you listen to me, I want also, in a very short time, you will help me to advice, to alert, as many people as it is possible. As I'm sure we are in danger, and we have really a few time be left.That's why I am so assertive and, sometimes, rude. Because I'm sure the present situation, this Pandemic nobody is really able to stop, nowhere, it is just the Beginning of the End. In other words, we will see soon these disasters, and in this order...
Quote from: Jagella on April 16, 2020, 08:26:55 PMJesus is always coming but never arriving. How long have you believed "the end is nigh"? I've been hearing about it for fifty years or more.
Quote from: Baruch on April 16, 2020, 10:25:11 PMIt is an attitude of course, not a timeline. Maximal pessimism. Of course for individuals, the end can only be a day away.
Quote from: Jagella on April 17, 2020, 01:48:07 PMMany people don't seem to mind that the end, according to Christian beliefs, involves world-wide destruction and death. I must wonder if some people actually look forward to the apocalypse.