Started by viocjit, July 05, 2019, 04:47:12 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 20, 2019, 04:31:42 AMI think the answer is simple. The woman decides. It's her body.
Quote from: Baruch on July 20, 2019, 06:20:53 AMYes, so she should be able to rob banks too. How chivalric of you. Did you support Patty Hearst after she turned?
Quote from: Cavebear on July 20, 2019, 06:35:22 AMIf I argued like you do, I would ask how often you beat your pets and "sieg heil" your Hitler poster. Do you even contemplate how weak your arguments are?
Quote from: Baruch on July 20, 2019, 11:24:05 AMI used to be a Jew with Nazi edged weapons. But not just Nazi ... US, other European, Japanese ...So no, I don't have a Hitler poster, or a Stalin poster. Haven't had those since I swore off US political parties.I am not worried about impressing people. I am surprised you haven't gotten a clear impression of that POV yet.
Quote from: Cavebear on July 20, 2019, 07:05:59 PMIf I didn't know you, I couldn't have provoked you like that. It was intentional. Do you understand how often you promote Nazi political views? Are you getting angry now? You like to do that to others. How is the shoe fitting?You should take a week off (I took off a month , did you notice?) and re-think trying to play head games with others. Most of us here are quite capable of that and... don't. I'm a bit more forward...
Quote from: Baruch on July 08, 2019, 03:37:32 PMSince I don't support morality ... I can be pragmatic. I know people won't stop being irresponsible. And some pregnancies will be medically questionable. So "free choice" abortion in the first trimester seems a good compromise (early enough to prevent undue trauma to fetus). And I don't see the state being involved otherwise. Just the pregnant woman and the doctor. Not the father, not the parents. Again for pragmatic reasons. I don't see things in terms of "rights" ... so her "right" to have an abortion, or that of other parties to prohibit abortion are moot. It is simply a circumscribed medical issue. Ideally, abortion shouldn't be used for birth control, medically. There are better methods.In general, I am totally opposed to the notion of "human rights" or "entitlements". These just open many ways for self abuse and sociopathy.
Quote from: Sal1981 on July 20, 2019, 08:45:50 PM"Rights" is a human construct. A construct that works and is useful. However, I don't think anyone is entitled to anything, other than what can be forced by yourself, upon yourself.If you want cohesion and a practical society, then you probably want to introduce tolerance into the system. This is the operant case for social cohesion, thanks in large part to the unspoken social contract: I won't bother you, if you won't bother me.The result is the same for practicality as it is for rights, at least in this instance.
Quote from: Baruch on July 20, 2019, 08:35:45 PMDo you understand you are an apparatchik for the communist party? Yeah, I usually notice when someone tries to scare me into my "safe space" but I don't have one, and I am not 20 years old.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 01, 2019, 09:04:29 AMI love regulated capitalism. If I suggested a liberal policy, you would call it "communist". If I suggested a conservative policy, you would call it "communist". You are already convinced I'm a communist for thinking businesses should be regulated at all.And I don't know or want to invade your "safe space".