FOX News Defends Trump's Defense of Nazis/White Supremacists/Bigotry

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Mike Cl

Quote from: pr126 on August 21, 2017, 06:57:45 AM
I cannot help thinking that all this unrest among Americans is by design, orchestrated to make them fight like cats in a sack, while persons unknown are rubbing their hands saying “ good, good, let the hate flow through you.

You know, like the Sith lord emperor Soros.
Well, just in case you have not noticed, Trump thrives on chaos.  I think he uses it as a smoke screen.  I wonder what strings he is pulling with all of his cabinet leaders.  I heard a brief statement of a great land sell off with the Dept. of Interior.  But not any details. 

As for racialism, that was institutionalized from the start.  Which is why it is so very hard to get rid of.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

pr126


randomvim

Quote from: Hydra009 on August 20, 2017, 04:05:36 PM
And in this exhibit we see the rare theocracy enabler use special pleading to justify why state courts should have the 10 commandments on display while disallowing other religious monuments.  Driven to the margins of civilized society, this species subsists almost entirely on bull excrement.  With little ground to stand on, this species is known to shriek and burrow when spotted, emerging again days or weeks later.  A victim of changing political norms, this tenacious little species has little future prospects.
uh no. Im presenting the logic of keeping information and images that already have been in a building for past several decades. Which is same arguement for artifacts and structures that isil has been known to destroy.

as I already stated, I do not disallow "other religions" but express concern when a group that is not listed as a religion. who does not have a historical influence in constructing govt.

an installment that would be same as to require nazi representation right next to jewish delegations.

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Blackleaf

Quote from: pr126 on August 21, 2017, 01:54:16 AM
Are Americans ashamed of their history?

Give it to Winston Smith to dump it down the memory hole.
Along with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

There, all done.

You are not responsible what your ancestors did hundreds of years ago.

Stop the guilt trip. You are being manipulated.

I'm not ashamed of our history, but there's a right way and a wrong way to do it. Displaying Confederate flags in a museum about the Civil War? That's fine. Displaying the flag in your front lawn? Not fine.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Blackleaf

Quote from: randomvim on August 21, 2017, 11:20:35 AMuh no. Im presenting the logic of keeping information and images that already have been in a building for past several decades. Which is same arguement for artifacts and structures that isil has been known to destroy.

as I already stated, I do not disallow "other religions" but express concern when a group that is not listed as a religion. who does not have a historical influence in constructing govt.

an installment that would be same as to require nazi representation right next to jewish delegations.

Logic is a foreign concept to your types. And if you're going to use the government as an authority on what constitutes a legitimate religion vs a cult, they consider Scientology a religion with tax exemption. If you don't know about Scientology, I suggest you look up an interview with someone who managed to escape them. It is very clearly a cult, yet the government does not officially define them as such.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Deidre32

There's some dark sides to American history, kind of tired of hearing that "times were different back then." So people didn't realize a few hundred years ago that owning people as property and beating them was wrong? Riiight.
The only lasting beauty, is the beauty of the heart. - Rumi

Blackleaf

Quote from: Deidre32 on August 21, 2017, 11:53:06 AM
There's some dark sides to American history, kind of tired of hearing that "times were different back then." So people didn't realize a few hundred years ago that owning people as property and beating them was wrong? Riiight.

We stand on the shoulders of giants. That goes for science as well as morality. The things we take for granted had to be learned. There was a time when people watched two people fight to the death for entertainment, and those people considered themselves to be civilized ones and everyone else to be "barbarians." The generations that come after ours will likely have more moral sense than we do, and there will be a time when we are looked back on through history as barbaric people.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on August 21, 2017, 09:37:01 AM
That would be chicken masala. Marsala  is a sweet dessert wine, very aromatic from Sicily.
It can be used in cooking, but not in Indian cooking.

No wonder I can't get good chicken masala ... typos!
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Mike Cl on August 21, 2017, 09:54:51 AM
Well, just in case you have not noticed, Trump thrives on chaos.  I think he uses it as a smoke screen.  I wonder what strings he is pulling with all of his cabinet leaders.  I heard a brief statement of a great land sell off with the Dept. of Interior.  But not any details. 

As for racialism, that was institutionalized from the start.  Which is why it is so very hard to get rid of.

The usual Republican modus operandi is to privatize previously public property.  Like Teapot Dome.  And the enclosures in Scotland.  It is very old, very English.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Blackleaf on August 21, 2017, 11:50:44 AM
Logic is a foreign concept to your types. And if you're going to use the government as an authority on what constitutes a legitimate religion vs a cult, they consider Scientology a religion with tax exemption. If you don't know about Scientology, I suggest you look up an interview with someone who managed to escape them. It is very clearly a cult, yet the government does not officially define them as such.

Scientology infiltrated US government offices, including the FBI ... in the 1970s.  They basically told the Feds to back off, or they would take the country down.  They are not only a cult, but a 5th column, that the US government is afraid of.  Think Falung Gong in China vs the communist party.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Deidre32 on August 21, 2017, 11:53:06 AM
There's some dark sides to American history, kind of tired of hearing that "times were different back then." So people didn't realize a few hundred years ago that owning people as property and beating them was wrong? Riiight.

I think they knew.  We know today that much of what we virtue signal about ... is criminal and evil too.  It is very hard to support human behavior, with a straight face, or without a tear.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

randomvim

Quote from: Blackleaf on August 21, 2017, 11:50:44 AM
Logic is a foreign concept to your types. And if you're going to use the government as an authority on what constitutes a legitimate religion vs a cult, they consider Scientology a religion with tax exemption. If you don't know about Scientology, I suggest you look up an interview with someone who managed to escape them. It is very clearly a cult, yet the government does not officially define them as such.
1. you dont know me. how I think. etc. asserting some stereotype is a fallacy. you can not begin to tell me how I think.

2. I know of scientology. much like the faith of Aztecs, it is a religion. does it cause damage to those who follow it or others? that answer does not determine what a religion is. Do I like it or agree with it? again a question that should not influence how that sect should be looked at.

But since we are adressing govt. property, what a govt. identifies within a paticular term should be considered.



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randomvim

Quote from: Hydra009 on August 20, 2017, 04:05:36 PM
And in this exhibit we see the rare theocracy enabler use special pleading to justify why state courts should have the 10 commandments on display while disallowing other religious monuments.  Driven to the margins of civilized society, this species subsists almost entirely on bull excrement.  With little ground to stand on, this species is known to shriek and burrow when spotted, emerging again days or weeks later.  A victim of changing political norms, this tenacious little species has little future prospects.
I didnt advocate to add any religous document or monument to any govt. building but to maintain an existing image which represents that building's or that community's history.

if you wish to make a post about a person's comment. then make sure you understand their comment.



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Unbeliever

Quote from: Sorginak on August 18, 2017, 09:39:49 PM
Due to an incompetent electoral college that ignored Hillary's popular vote, of course.
I think there was more than mere incompetence at work, I think there was a coup - just part of the vast right-wing conspiracy.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Hydra009

Quote from: randomvim on August 21, 2017, 11:20:35 AM
uh no. Im presenting the logic of keeping information and images that already have been in a building for past several decades. Which is same arguement for artifacts and structures that isil has been known to destroy.
And you believe that?  Wow.

Also, appeal to tradition.  You're really cranking out the fallacies in this hole you're digging.

Quoteas I already stated, I do not disallow "other religions" but express concern when a group that is not listed as a religion
As I recall, you called it a cult.  What's the difference between a cult and a religion, btw?  (Spoiler: it's mostly a function of size and money/influence)

Quotewho does not have a historical influence in constructing govt.
The church-state equivalent of "first dibs"?  And this is logic to you?  Wow again.