Time For Athests To Prove There Is No God.

[Heisreal]

Not a premise!  That clears something up that has been niggling the back of my brain for a long time.

If the earth tilts one degree off its perfect rotation, earth will burn up or freeze with a solid layer ice. What keeps that perfect rotation in alignment?

Does anyone believe this takes care of itself? Is it logical to believe a chain of unknown events causes the universe to function in a way to support life? Let alone giving that life in order to support it.

Or is it logical to believe there is a Creator who holds all of His creation in order? Who gave every one of His creations a knowledge of His presence through the human conscience. Is it logical to believe that some of the creations on this earth have chosen to go against their natural conscience and deny the very Creator Himself?

The Bible says that some men will deny the Creator. I chose to believe the logic of scripture. 

[PickelledEggs]

If the earth tilts one degree off its perfect rotation, earth will burn up or freeze with a solid layer ice. What keeps that perfect rotation in alignment?

Physics. Very basic physics.

Does anyone believe this takes care of itself?

again. Physics. Try to follow.

Is it logical to believe a chain of unknown events causes the universe to function in a way to support life? Let alone giving that life in order to support it.

The probability is low, but it is still possible. And it happened. The beginning "primordial soup" was already simulated to show that organic material could manifest in the environment scientists calculated it to be. Organic material formed and from there, organic life forms

Or is it logical to believe there is a Creator who holds all of His creation in order? Who gave every one of His creations a knowledge of His presence through the human conscience. Is it logical to believe that some of the creations on this earth have chosen to go against their natural conscience and deny the very Creator Himself?

No. It's not logical. The only thing you have to go by to make that claim is one book. One book that is contradicted by the very reality we live in.

The Bible says that some men will deny the Creator. I chose to believe the logic baseless claims of scripture. 

Good for you.

[Heisreal]

Physics. Very basic physics.again. Physics. Try to follow.The probability is low, but it is still possible. And it happened. The beginning "primordial soup" was already simulated to show that organic material could manifest in the environment scientists calculated it to be. Organic material formed and from there, organic life forms
No. It's not logical. The only thing you have to go by to make that claim is one book. One book that is contradicted by the very reality we live in.
Good for you.

Where did the "soup" come from. Didn't that have to come into existence first?

Something cannot evolve from nothing. There had to be something in order to produce something, nothing from nothing leaves nothing.

Where did the something come from to evolve into something else? Who made that something?

Physics has no answer to this. Your claims are bogus.

[PickelledEggs]

Where did the "soup" come from. Didn't that have to come into existence first?

Something cannot evolve from nothing. There had to be something in order to produce something, nothing from nothing leaves nothing.

Where did the something come from to evolve into something else? Who made that something?

Physics has no answer to this. Your claims are bogus.

We can easily turn this question around to ask "who made the person that made everything else."
It's easy to make shit up and say "god did it" it's a cop out non-answer. The truth is, there is zero evidence to say "god did it" as you are assuming.

And I am not saying, in any way, that we have all the answers. I am however saying that we have some answers.

For the "primordial soup", I will post this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2xly_5Ei3U

[Heisreal]

I know that mathematicians have a formula to make a value out of "zero."

I know that scientists have a formula to create something out of nothing.

I also know this,

Romans 1:20-23
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

[Heisreal]

We can easily turn this question around to ask "who made the person that made everything else."
It's easy to make shit up and say "god did it" it's a cop out non-answer. The truth is, there is zero evidence to say "god did it" as you are assuming.

And I am not saying, in any way, that we have all the answers. I am however saying that we have some answers.

For the "primordial soup", I will post this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2xly_5Ei3U

The human brain is not capable of understanding where God came from. He didn't come from anywhere. He has no beginning. God promises that all these things will be known by all one day when man is ready to comprehend.

Gods word is not good enough for some. If some can't figure it out with this feeble brain we now possess, they refuse to believe. God have mercy on us!

[Unbeliever]

If the earth tilts one degree off its perfect rotation, earth will burn up or freeze with a solid layer ice. What keeps that perfect rotation in alignment?

Earth's Stabilizing Moon May Be Unique Within Universe

[PickelledEggs]

The human brain is not capable of understanding where God came from. He didn't come from anywhere. He has no beginning. God promises that all these things will be known by all one day when man is ready to comprehend.

Gods word is not good enough for some. If some can't figure it out with this feeble brain we now possess, they refuse to believe. God have mercy on us!

Omfg.

Let's cut to the chase. The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. If you claim there is God, prove it. Otherwise, you're just proselytizing and will be banned. I will give you a chance to show your worth.


You are more than welcome to be here on this forum and discuss the various topics that are here, but if you're just here to proselytize, which is what this is turning in to, you're not wanted



Sent from your mom.

[Unbeliever]

The human brain is not capable of understanding where God came from. He didn't come from anywhere. He has no beginning. God promises that all these things will be known by all one day when man is ready to comprehend.

Gods word is not good enough for some. If some can't figure it out with this feeble brain we now possess, they refuse to believe. God have mercy on us!

[PickelledEggs]

Also. It's not our job to disprove your claim that you never provided evidence for in the first place.

Sent from your mom.

[Heisreal]

Earth's Stabilizing Moon May Be Unique Within Universe

I'm a supporter of science, the more we learn, the better off we are.

One day, hopefully, they will become so advanced in knowledge, they will finally say, this is so complicated that there has to be a Creator. There is no other way.

I don't agree with their philosophy, but I do believe their findings, and find it amazing. 

[Unbeliever]

Oh, just more of that "irreducible complexity" stuff, huh?

[Heisreal]

Also. It's not our job to disprove your claim that you never provided evidence for in the first place.

Sent from your mom.

I beg to differ! When you say the Bible is a lie, fiction, and a fairy tale, the burden of proof lies with you.

This is a two-way street. What goes around comes around.

[Unbeliever]

Bible Contradictions - by Category


I'm sure you believe that every one of those contadictions can be explained away, as merely my lack of understanding of "scripture" so don't bother. I just wanted you to see some of why we unbelievers don't believe in your Godbook.

[sdelsolray]

If the earth tilts one degree off its perfect rotation, earth will burn up or freeze with a solid layer ice.  What keeps that perfect rotation in alignment?
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Just not in any way you can demonstrate.  Nice second-grade level strawman attempt though.

The laws of physics answer questions relating to Earth's rotation.  Try studying them, you might be able to answer your loaded question.  Put another way, physics answers will not use the word "perfect".

The rotation of the Earth has been slowing down for quite some time.  The Earth wobbles on its rotational axis.  Are those part of it's perfection?  Do tell.

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Or is it logical to believe there is a Creator who holds all of His creation in order? Who gave every one of His creations a knowledge of His presence through the human conscience. Is it logical to believe that some of the creations on this earth have chosen to go against their natural conscience and deny the very Creator Himself?
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Yes, let's move on to the false dichotomy fallacy, with a side salad of mere assertion fallacies.  You're batting 2 ½  for 2 ½.  Perhaps it would be too challenging to ask you if you can think of other possible choices.

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The Bible says that some men will deny the Creator.
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The Bible makes many unsupported claims.  So what?

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I chose to believe the logic of scripture. 

Again, so what?.  Hey, tell us the part about how you are special, how you have secret access to the Truthâ,,¢ and how those that don't believe as you do will be punished.  That stuff is funny.