Alex Jones

[Baruch]

By "we," I mean we who are opposed to lies. Notice I said, "level," by the way. There is subtle bias, and there is gross propaganda. Alex Jones is the grossest of the gross.

The US is a rebelling British colony ... it isn't an independent nation at all ... so which "lies" are you referring to?  The Republicans and Democrats aren't even bipartisan on 2+2=4 ... for one party it equals 3 (austerity), for the other party it equals 5 (profligacy).  So did JFK win the 1960 election or not?  Is it or is it not true, that the D-party stole it fair and square?

OK, so free speech is OK, as long as it is only among PhD Political Science professors not the hoi polloi.  Also propaganda is OK, as long as it is D-party propaganda ... or do the D-party members have special Platonic organs, that allow them to own the truth?

[Baruch]

Me too.  Then comes the brownshirt nationalists raving about some totalitarian new world order and vowing to stop our Illuminati agenda by ballot or bullet.  So nothing happens.  Thanks guys.

So you are a Menshevik/Trotsky-ite then.  Stalin and Hitler were too narrow in their ambitions.  It was George HW who proclaimed the NWO, not Alex Jones.  I like Trotsky ... he was Jewish and knew before anyone, what Hitler was all about.  He understood Stalin all to well.

[Hydra009]

So you are a Menshevik/Trotsky-ite then.

You caught me.  Clearly, one would have to be some sort of Marxist to advocate for a postnationalist political order.  All that stuff about maintaining a strong constitutional democracy was bullshit, Atheon and I want straight up communism.

[Solomon Zorn]

Some irrelevant BS...Also propaganda is OK, as long as it is D-party propaganda ... or do the D-party members have special Platonic organs, that allow them to own the truth?

Show me some Democratic propaganda, that is on the same level as Alex Jones.

No.

There is a difference between some ideological spin, and malicious slander.

[Baruch]

You caught me.  Clearly, one would have to be some sort of Marxist to advocate for a postnationalist political order.  All that stuff about maintaining a strong constitutional democracy was bullshit, Atheon and I want straight up communism.

If you want straight up UN ... not a bad idea mind you ... then you are a minority in the Chinese/Indian empire.  Would you like some curry on your ramen noodle?

The only person out there, who is like Alex Jones, is Alex Jones.  What I don't care for is the smear that anyone who voted for someone other than Hillary, is an Alex Jones supporter.  I didn't, and I am not.

I am not saying that differences of opinion on policy are fake news ... it is OK to have differences on policy.  Should we go to war with Russia or not?  I know where I stand on that one.  What should we do about Native American rights and that pipeline route?  Don't know where I stand.  But if someone says that the oil/gas companies really care about Native American rights ... then I think we are looking at cow patties.

[Shiranu]

What should we do about Native American rights and that pipeline route?  Don't know where I stand.

I'm sorry, but this is like saying, "I don't know where I stand on slavery. It's a complicated issue."

No, no it's really not.

[Hydra009]

If you want straight up UN ... not a bad idea mind you ... then you are a minority in the Chinese/Indian empire.  Would you like some curry on your ramen noodle?

The only person out there, who is like Alex Jones, is Alex Jones.  What I don't care for is the smear that anyone who voted for someone other than Hillary, is an Alex Jones supporter.  I didn't, and I am not.

I am not saying that differences of opinion on policy are fake news ... it is OK to have differences on policy.  Should we go to war with Russia or not?  I know where I stand on that one.  What should we do about Native American rights and that pipeline route?  Don't know where I stand.  But if someone says that the oil/gas companies really care about Native American rights ... then I think we are looking at cow patties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8rSHiCgjPM

[Solomon Zorn]

The only person out there, who is like Alex Jones, is Alex Jones.

Not true. There are many more where he came from. Just peruse RightWingWatch for a few minutes, and you will be entertained, to say the least.

What I don't care for is the smear that anyone who voted for someone other than Hillary, is an Alex Jones supporter.  I didn't, and I am not.

I, for one, never implied anything of the sort. Nor did I imply that I favor censorship, as you seemed to accuse me of, in an earlier post. But just because it's difficult to draw a line between slander and free speech, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done. And Facebook, etc., are privately owned formats, who can set whatever rules they like. If they are finding there is  line to be drawn, then more power to them. Welcome to the complexities of the human condition. There are no absolutes. Even our most precious law - the first amendment - needs exceptions, when it comes to blatant lies. Slander should not be protected.

[Baruch]

Then call for a ban of all government communications ... if you don't like slander and lies .. but Congress is excepted ... just like they are from every other law.

Thomas Jefferson used fake news, and Alexander Hamilton used slander ...
http://www.theperspective.org/articles/0907200603.html

[Unbeliever]

The powers that be need those like this Jones guy (if that really is his name...) because everyone knows he spews bullshit - so when he spews stuff like "9/11 was an inside job" (or other stuff they want us to completely discount) no one will take it seriously. He performs a much-needed service for the Deep State.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

It's gonna be interested watching him defend the federal gubmit for 4 years, unless he instantly turns his back on Trump.

[Baruch]

It's gonna be interested watching him defend the federal gubmit for 4 years, unless he instantly turns his back on Trump.

Alex Jones is a 9/11 Truther moderate.  In what way does that make him Republican?  Yes, anyone who doesn't criticize Trump ... is a Republican?  As best I can tell, Alex Jones is a controversialist.  Alex Jones recently appeared on Max Keiser, who is aired on RT (Russian TV) ... does that make him a Putin loving communist too?

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Alex Jones is a 9/11 Truther moderate.  In what way does that make him Republican?  Yes, anyone who doesn't criticize Trump ... is a Republican?  As best I can tell, Alex Jones is a controversialist.  Alex Jones recently appeared on Max Keiser, who is aired on RT (Russian TV) ... does that make him a Putin loving communist too?

Dude practically sucked off trump the entire election.

[Baruch]

Dude practically sucked off trump the entire election.

So what FEMA camp are you advocating to deal with this?  Is everyone who "liked" Trump to be liquidated?  I didn't, so I guess I am safe from Soylent Kosher.