Theist:Why do you think God does not exist what are your reasons?

[fencerider]

God is biased in your favor

Prove it!!!

[Sorginak]

While this evidence may seem circumstantial, think about a house, you don't see the builder or architect within it, but it's very reality attests to it. 

The very reasonable difference being that I can actually track down the builder of that house, touch him, and point out to the rest of the world that he is the builder of that house.

The same cannot be stated for god, the so-called creator of life as we know it.

[Baruch]

The very reasonable difference being that I can actually track down the builder of that house, touch him, and point out to the rest of the world that he is the builder of that house.

The same cannot be stated for god, the so-called creator of life as we know it.

Excellent (said Emperor Palpatine) ... can you track down Lincoln and cross-examine him?  If not, the Lincoln is like a god ... and he is too!

Humans build houses ... if humans are demigods, then at least as members of the class of G-d ... then the building of a house is a divine act.  And that is why mezuzot are attached to doorways by observant Jews.  In ancient times, in Babylonia, the king of Babylon, at the dedication of a public building, would include a foundation brick, with appropriate approbations to the Babylonian gods.

[Sorginak]

Excellent (said Emperor Palpatine) ... can you track down Lincoln and cross-examine him?  If not, the Lincoln is like a god ... and he is too!

There is actual evidence existing in the world today that Lincoln was a real person.  The same cannot be stated for Jesus. 

[Baruch]

There is actual evidence existing in the world today that Lincoln was a real person.  The same cannot be stated for Jesus.

There were many people named Jesus in ancient times.  Even more of them in Mexico today.  Lincoln may or may not have existed ... you can't prove it ... and I can easily bet that Lincoln you think of, wasn't the Lincoln that was.  How could it be?  You never knew him.

[Sorginak]

There were many people named Jesus in ancient times.  Even more of them in Mexico today.  Lincoln may or may not have existed ... you can't prove it ... and I can easily bet that Lincoln you think of, wasn't the Lincoln that was.  How could it be?  You never knew him.

Lincoln's existence is very much provable by the fact that there are documented photos of him. 

During a time when gods were made marble, where is the statue of Jesus?

[Blackleaf]

The very reasonable difference being that I can actually track down the builder of that house, touch him, and point out to the rest of the world that he is the builder of that house.

The same cannot be stated for god, the so-called creator of life as we know it.

As I stated elsewhere before, the very fact that the house stands out as something obviously designed defeats the argument. In an environment filled with grass, trees, a mountain in the distance, an ocean to the east, and a house in the middle, the house stands out. That's because the house is designed by human hands. The rest is not.

[Sorginak]

As I stated elsewhere before, the very fact that the house stands out as something obviously designed defeats the argument. In an environment filled with grass, trees, a mountain in the distance, an ocean to the east, and a house in the middle, the house stands out. That's because the house is designed by human hands. The rest is not.

Good golly gee, I have been converted.

Hardly.

The earth was created by natural means following the Big Bang.

[Blackleaf]

Good golly gee, I have been converted.

Hardly.

The earth was created by natural means following the Big Bang.

I get the feeling you did not fully comprehend my post. I was agreeing with you.

[Baruch]

Good golly gee, I have been converted.

Hardly.

The earth was created by natural means following the Big Bang.

And materialists illogically argue, that humans are also natural, so all our creations are also natural, just like glaciers and the like.

[Sorginak]

And materialists illogically argue, that humans are also natural, so all our creations are also natural, just like glaciers and the like.

Materialists do not care about humans.  They care about what they own.  Unless you are referring to Colonial life where they owned slaves.

[Baruch]

Materialists do not care about humans.  They care about what they own.  Unless you are referring to Colonial life where they owned slaves.

I was speaking to Blacklead's argument with you.

[Sorginak]

I was speaking to Blacklead's argument with you.

Yet you quoted me.

[Blackleaf]

And materialists illogically argue, that humans are also natural, so all our creations are also natural, just like glaciers and the like.

That is the weird thing about the definition of "natural." It means that humans didn't design it, and nothing supernatural designed it either. If a wasp builds a nest, it's natural because an animal designed it. But humans are animals, so what's the difference between a wasp's nest and a human's house? I suppose it's a definition of convenience. If we read "100% natural honey," we don't really care if bees made the honey. We just want to know if humans tampered with it somehow.

[sdelsolray]

And materialists illogically argue, that humans are also natural, so all our creations are also natural, just like glaciers and the like.

Please identify the irrationality, illogic or whatever problem you have with defining or identifying homo sapiens as natural.

You will likely have to step out on a limb and define some terms here.  That could limit your future ability to dodge, weave or obfuscate.