Started by Hijiri Byakuren, July 24, 2016, 11:14:31 PM
QuoteDo the actions of BLM conflict with their stated goals? If so, how?
QuoteIs All Lives Matter an actual movement, a "calling out your bullshit" reaction, or something else?
QuoteDo the poor choices of police officers/departments reflect badly on the whole profession?
QuoteWhat is your solution to the issues relating to BLM?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 25, 2016, 08:43:39 AMThe 'epidemic' of police killing black people on the basis of racism cannot be shown to exist. That is; the so-called 'epidemic' doesn't exist objectively - it exists as hysteria only.
Quote from: Mike Cl on July 25, 2016, 09:03:43 AMBlacks have always been killed at a higher rate
Quoteand that has been accepted as 'that is just the way it is'.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 25, 2016, 09:19:23 AMBlacks commit crime at a massively higher rate than do other races in America
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on July 25, 2016, 09:50:26 AMDo they commit more crimes, or are they convicted of more crimes?
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on July 25, 2016, 09:50:26 AMDo they commit more crimes, or are they convicted of more crimes? And do we have any statistics on their rate of false convictions compared to other colors?I'll add this to the OP.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 25, 2016, 09:19:23 AMIt's not, "just the way it is." Blacks commit crime at a massively higher rate than do other races in America, therefore they are killed at a higher rate, per capita, relative to other races.
QuoteThey have not and are not.
QuoteWhite people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. But because the white population is approximately five times as great as the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer. Of all of the unarmed people shot and killed by police in 2015, 40 percent of them were black men, even though black men make up just 6 percent of the nation's population."And, when considering shootings confined within a single race, a black person shot and killed by police is more likely to have been unarmed than a white person. About 13 percent of all black people who have been fatally shot by police since January 2015 were unarmed, compared with 7 percent of all white people.
QuoteBlacks commit crime at a massively higher rate than do other races in America, therefore they are killed at a higher rate, per capita, relative to other races.
QuoteYes and yes, why do they have a homicide rate 6-7 times higher than white people?
QuoteI like this black cop Sheriff Clarke ...
QuoteFifty years of lies by Democrats caused Blacks to be blinded about their political roots. Douglas knew better.
QuoteThe LAST hurdle for blacks to clear for equality is to free their minds of the poisonous, debilitating brainwashing message of the DemoRats.
Quote from: Shiranu on July 25, 2016, 03:46:41 PMhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-police-shootings-race-20160711-story.htmlThe numbers don't lie, I'm afraid.
QuoteThat doesn't change the fact that blacks are disproportionately shot while unarmed, while not committing a crime
Quoteand are incarcerated as staggeringly higher rates for the same crimes as whites
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 25, 2016, 06:49:02 PMActually, once every factor is controlled for, the number is almost parallel.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on July 25, 2016, 07:14:51 PMSo based on the data that says blacks are convicted 5 to 6 times as often, and falsely convicted twice as often would lead me to conclude that the crime rate is higher for blacks than it is for whites.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on July 25, 2016, 07:45:51 PMIt certainly leads to that suggestion, but I'd question if a solid conclusion can be reached here. Given this country's history with blacks, the data would need to somehow account for the part prejudice plays in jurors determining "reasonable doubt" before I'd be willing to say anything more decisive than, "The data suggests X, Y, and Z."