Many Atheists are not Rational

[Givemeareason]

With my posts there has always been something to discuss.  You keep say this----"that hating religion is not part of atheism"......why???? You NEVER address why you say that--not reason 1, yet.  Partly it's true---and partly it's not.  Atheism is 'about' only one thing--the lack of a belief in god/gods. Period.  Many atheists hate religion, but not all and you don't have to hate it to be an atheist.  I hate it.  But I hate organized religion, not personal religion.  Any and all organized religions are about one thing--power.  And that usually includes money.  All the holy books and all the rules of god and all the trappings involved in organized religion means they will be destructive and that only one thing matters--the gathering and keeping of power.  Can you name me any organized religion for which what I just said is not true?????  Ever?????  This is something to discuss.  But are you going to fart out again??????

I think we are addressing apples and oranges.  I have no reason  to hate religion (christianity in particular) but that does not mean that others dont.  Many may have good reasons   My issue was that it seemed like hating religion was being promoted as a requirement in order to be athiest.  I don't think I am being fair to push this any further because some including yourself may have reason to hate it

[Atheon]

I've certainly encountered irrational atheists. Atheists who believe in alien abductions, quack medicine, conspiracy nuttery, etc. Just lacking belief in god is no guarantee of rationality.

[Draconic Aiur]

Many Athiest are not rational.  Sure we like to pride ourselves about how rational we are, etc.  But we think with our new found wisdom we have reached some plateau of understanding.  We have not.  All we have gained is simply the realization there is no God.  But what we have not realized is that God is just a concept and the concept still EXISTS!  We cannot eradicate a concept that has existed for a hundreds of thousands of years fulfilling the needs of billions of people regardless of how they used or abused it.  So now we have a choice.  We can remembrance and recognize that religion still has value. And we understand it or go all the way down to hating it.  Understanding it should be the choice for the rational mind.  Hate is not a product of the rational mind.  By understanding it we take a more detached viewpoint.  We relinquish our egos, fears, doubts etc that are attached to us.  We look again and observe it deciding how this should be addressed.  We are the components of the collective mind of HUMANITY.  With regard all of human knowledge we then begin to the value of religion.  But unfortunately we generally only view things from the view one component viewing another component.  We miss the big picture because our point of view was so limited.  But the components can still expand their points of view.  All we need do is detach ourselves and try to assume a larger point of view.  We then strive for the OBJECTIVE point of view and become open minded.  We still have the foundation of human knowledge and we are now able to see and discard what is not relevant or simply wrong.  This is the foundation of SCIENCE.  Now all I am saying here i that this is a concept within my own mind and think this is a very rational viewpoint.  I decide within myself what I want to experience.  When I encounter something that does not fit in my rational view then I choose what action to take.  If it grabs my interest I generally pursue and confront it.  That is why I am here.  Now I am trying to say all this in very systematic yet elementary terms.  Religious people having been placed in combat mode love to say that atheism has no moral basis in which to exist.  But that is WRONG.  One of the very first concepts was when we realized that we worked best groups.  Therefore the logical observation was that it was better to get along with each other.  So we created the principle of the Golden Rule which is also called by many other names and was incorporated into all our religion.  But they cannot lay claim to that or many other morals.  They appear to me as being self evident.  But here we are having relinquished God and now asking "NOW WHAT?"  This is what needs to be addressed here.  Rather than running off people who don't conform or we don't understand we should confront them in a logical manner without attacking them.  Now some might be sociopaths and those are probably the trolls being referred to.  So we need to examine them closely and as rationally as possible.  Can I now become accepted in your group? :-)

They attacked us 1st dimwit, and are a bunch psychopaths who need to see a a psychologist! You want us to look at them rationally? Are you High?! Religion was at 1st a way to understand shit but now we know its illogical and anti rational along with a shit ton of negative effects, AND IT COULD BE THE REASON THE WORLD IS FUCKED UP!