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Is this a real "miracle"?

Started by Lolilla, October 08, 2013, 12:12:46 PM

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YurmaGetto

I hear you talking, but see nothing convincing. If it was the link, then you have to post it. Otherwise, this is just a claim. No worries though ^^ We are all one.
Edit: Never mind, i saw your link right now. And can say it doesn't mean anything according to what i read.
But have a nice day though ^^ Sorry though.

Lolilla

Thanks for all your answers! I am really appreciating this because in many other forums no one answers because they just think I am a troll or I am not serious when I actually just want to know other opinions about all this thiss because I do not want to fall for this "miracles"! Do you mind if I ask you one more 'cause I can't anything on the internet about this? It's about a hadith, texts where sayings of Mohammed are reported. http://www.quranandscience.com/sunnah-a ... bones.html
I think the most probable explanation is that this fact was already known but I cannot find exact details about whether Hippokrates or Galen knew about the number of joints. As far as I know the ancient greeks did do some dissections. Does anyone of you know a little bit more or can you imagine a different explanation? It would be a funny coincidence if he was just gessing, wouldn't it?
"I recently read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, which ignited my interest in a scientific, mathematical version of the world. No, I'm not religious. At all. I'm an atheist." Matt Smith

LikelyToBreak

They didn't even get this "miracle" right.  From: //http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_joints_are_in_the_human_body
QuoteThe number is certainly in the range of the mid-200s to the mid-300s.

MmmAtlas

Brains works fine ;) It is a fine piece of thinking material that is very useful for solving puzzles :D

Colanth

Quote from: "Lolilla"Do you mind if I ask you one more 'cause I can't anything on the internet about this? It's about a hadith, texts where sayings of Mohammed are reported. http://www.quranandscience.com/sunnah-a ... bones.html
I think the most probable explanation is that this fact was already known
Since it's not true, it wasn't "known".

MUCH of the Koran and hadiths are either just plain wrong (as this one is) or vague enough that after the facts are known, they're retrofitted into something so vague that it could mean what it's said to mean or it could mean something totally different.

There's not one single thing in any holy book that unambiguously states as fact something that was not known to men at the time.
Afflicting the comfortable for 70 years.
Science builds skyscrapers, faith flies planes into them.

Plu

In addition to why it's wrong according the above, there is also this in the text:

QuoteThe immovable joints, as those joining the skull bones, are not counted here.

Which means they're cherry-picking data to fit the numbers they want, instead of the other way around.

the_antithesis

Why is anyone calling this bullshit a "miracle?"

Colanth

Because it's in the Koran, and every word of the Koran is stuff that no one could have known at the time so it's all a miracle.  Or bullshit.  I'm too old to remember which one.
Afflicting the comfortable for 70 years.
Science builds skyscrapers, faith flies planes into them.

Jutter

Even if it DID refer to the brain rather than the head in general... front, back, left, right... with a one out of four chance a lucky guess, at what could be shoehorned into supposedly pointing to the frontal cortex, isn't all that remarkable.

If you hope to see a miracle fine, but be a bit more picky please. Unless it involves something that, in a movie, would demand the participation of Industrial Light And Magic, please don't bother.
No religion for me thank you very much; I 'm full of shit enough as it is.

Being flabbergasted about existence never made anyone disappear in a poof of flabbergas, so nevermind why we're here. We ARE here.