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Multiverse and God

Started by Contemporary Protestant, May 07, 2014, 05:11:02 PM

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Mister Agenda

Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on May 07, 2014, 05:43:32 PM
What is the multiverse then, since I apparently have a flawed understanding

It means there may be a very high or even infinite number of possible universes that exist in addition to our own. It doesn't mean any of them are magic.

Atheists are not anti-Christian. They are anti-stupid.--WitchSabrina

Mister Agenda

Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on May 07, 2014, 06:28:21 PM
My thoughts are, how do we know there is only eleven, if we can only visualize three? The point about how we are unaware of higher dimensions is fascinating

I thought the multiverse was literally referring to different planes of existence (like in Elder Scrolls) and that there are an infinite number of planes

It depends on which multiverse hypothesis you're talking about. The most likely, in my opinion, are M-theory universes, where universes are spawned...there's some slight evidence that our universe may have collided with one. In this scenario, universes might vary by physical constants, but since we don't know if the constants are actually variable (!), it might be that all universes are much the same.

The branching Quantum universe has all choices being enacted across different universes: If you get a heads in this universe, there's a universe where you got tails, if you picked white socks this morning, there's a universe where you picked argyle. That I'm incredulous on this one doesn't mean it isn't true, but I consider it unlikely.
Atheists are not anti-Christian. They are anti-stupid.--WitchSabrina

Mister Agenda

Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on May 13, 2014, 05:25:27 PM
Tbh, this conjecture is a parody of an atheist who attempted to disprove God by stating human life was inevitable because there are so many universes, one was bound to have life

How would that disprove God? At most it only proves humans will come to exist somewhere if there are infinite universses. It only make God unnecessary as an explanation, and you don't need multiple universes for that.

Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on May 13, 2014, 05:25:27 PM
So I stumped him by saying God is inevitable because there are so many universes, one is bound to have a god

I think we have a less-easily-stumped class of atheist here. The Abrahamic God is not a contingent being who needs the right universe to exist. He either necessarily exists in all universes, or necessarily does not exist in any of them. Small-g gods are a slightly different matter, but as I implied elsewhere, the set of all possible universes is unlikely to include magic ones.

Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on May 13, 2014, 05:25:27 PM
I think the multiverse is probably just an idea and nothing else

It's hypothetical, but it's possible for there to be evidence for it. I don't think there's enough available yet to accept it as being true, though, and either way, at our current level of technology the idea is mainly useful for thought-experiments.
Atheists are not anti-Christian. They are anti-stupid.--WitchSabrina

St Giordano Bruno

Multiverse? God? Multiverse? God? Multiverse? God? Multiverse? God? I choose Multiverse, a far better logical argument IMO
Voltaire - "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities"

Solitary

Would it make any difference in our lives either way? Solitary
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the_antithesis

Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on May 07, 2014, 05:11:02 PM
If there are an infinite number of universes then wouldn't there be a God in one of them?

Why should there be a god, whatever that is, in any of them?