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Title: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on September 08, 2023, 08:39:23 PM
So I'm sitting here thinking there is no thread on the real trouble that Donald Trump is in.

The courts of law are closing in.  These are not Truth Social posts or campaign stops.  These are courts of law.  It's time MAGA supporters acknowledged the truth. Justice is growing closer.

How dare you suborn the peaceful transfer of power. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on September 08, 2023, 08:59:08 PM
These people worship him, no getting around it. Some of them are coming to their senses.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on September 08, 2023, 09:16:28 PM
My vote counts as much as yours and my neighbors.  You tried, and are continuing to try, to steal my vote. Feel free to concede any day. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mike Cl on September 08, 2023, 10:43:17 PM
Is there any truth to what Huckabee (the old male --can't call him a man--) said----bullets will fly if trump is found guilty on any count?  Are we headed to a shooting civil war??
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on September 08, 2023, 11:03:00 PM
I think all those people are pussies.  They won't do shit. They talk big, but that's all they'll do.

I hope I'm not wrong.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on September 08, 2023, 11:13:29 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 08, 2023, 10:43:17 PMIs there any truth to what Huckabee (the old male --can't call him a man--) said----bullets will fly if trump is found guilty on any count?  Are we headed to a shooting civil war??
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No.  Those hundreds of prosecutions have taken the steam out of the seditious wing.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on September 08, 2023, 11:20:53 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on September 08, 2023, 08:39:23 PMSo I'm sitting here thinking there is no thread on the real trouble that Donald Trump is in.
(https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ishethough.png)

I made one thread, but there's only so much aging-megalomaniac-dictator-and-existential-threat-to-democracy I can realistically cover from day to day.  Not just in terms of time, but also in terms of emotional disgust and mental anguish at having to sift through so much evil.  Suffice it to say I plan on reading the obituaries with a lot of satisfaction (and possibly a Kyiv mule in hand) in the near future.  Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: aitm on September 09, 2023, 09:44:34 PM
Bravado is easy when you are the only ones holding weapons along a parade route. When that changes, and the other side is holding guns as well, the bravado becomes a reality, and, let's face it, nobody really wants to die in a gun fight with your neighbors over political bull-shit that in the end is a useless argument as the politicians are all being paid by the same people.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: aitm on September 09, 2023, 09:47:17 PM
Let me add that I have met women who think we should have civil war, and I merely mention, bullets don't always go where intended, are you willing to sacrifice your child to a wayward bullet? Because that it what war does.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on September 10, 2023, 10:59:15 AM
We could always ask countries experiencing a civil war right now how that's going for them (spoiler: not great) and ask if they'd like the US to experience something similar...again.

But the same naive logic that they use to conclude that putting a grifter and pathological liar into office will somehow magically make the US "great again" they also use to predict that a Civil War would go 100% their way and be over quick (they thought that last time, too)

Also, the majority of people in the US (and about 8% of Joe Rogan listeners) don't want to live under a fascist theocracy, they're not going to just lay down and accept it at the barrel of a gun.  You need at least 5 out of 9 Supreme Court justices for that.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on September 10, 2023, 01:28:32 PM
I liked Joe Rogan when he was on News Radio, but I can't listen to his ranting on his show.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: aitm on September 10, 2023, 01:43:58 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 10, 2023, 01:28:32 PMI liked Joe Rogan when he was on News Radio, but I can't listen to his ranting on his show.
.
He, like lumpy Limbaugh, saw where the money was and decided that money was better than civility and simple courtesy. Greed rules the news and podcasts now. Civility is out the window in favor of wealth. They don't give a fuck about people anymore. They are the new corporations where making a billion and a half is better than making a billion and passing the half billion to their labor. This is the state of so-called capitalism is now.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 10, 2023, 05:51:19 PM
Quote from: aitm on September 10, 2023, 01:43:58 PM.
He, like lumpy Limbaugh, saw where the money was and decided that money was better than civility and simple courtesy. Greed rules the news and podcasts now. Civility is out the window in favor of wealth. They don't give a fuck about people anymore. They are the new corporations where making a billion and a half is better than making a billion and passing the half billion to their labor. This is the state of so-called capitalism is now.
Same with internet trolls, ain't it.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on September 11, 2023, 08:54:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/80EEIFl.jpeg)

Welp, time to throw in the towel, some rube has "evadence" that Daddy Donald didn't do it.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on September 13, 2023, 07:05:58 PM
"No police"

Brilliant.  Case dismissed.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on September 15, 2023, 07:41:52 PM
Hunter charged with felonies for possessing a gun for 11 days while admittedly using coke. 

See?  It's all good.  We've got the 'Biden Crime Family' in the news.  Never mind those 91 felony charges. 

And the simple-minded eat this this shit up like flies.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on September 15, 2023, 10:33:14 PM
Isn't someone named Hunter kinda required to have a gun? 🤔
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 16, 2023, 04:14:34 AM
If hunter can be charged, charge him.

Problem is the right iq kicking up this storm, claiming the left and middle should care: but i feel they generally don't.
Red meat to the base, but i think it does little to sway new voters.

Two cents, of course.
I can't feel the pulse in america.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on September 16, 2023, 03:51:59 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on September 16, 2023, 04:14:34 AMIf hunter can be charged, charge him.

Problem is the right iq kicking up this storm, claiming the left and middle should care: but i feel they generally don't.
Red meat to the base, but i think it does little to sway new voters.

Two cents, of course.
I can't feel the pulse in america.

I care about health care, social security, and saving the little bit of democracy we still have. Biden aligns. Hunter is an insignificant footnote. Also not worried about gangs of Transgenders ruining the country; amuck in sin. This seems to be the repugnant party's platform.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on September 17, 2023, 06:37:46 PM
Agree, but then again, this is no longer a party that legislates... it's a party of grievance and revenge. Of hating the 'other', whatever the other is that makes you feel better. The republican party has become a caricature of itself. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Luther Martini on September 17, 2023, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: Cassia on September 16, 2023, 03:51:59 PM
I care about health care, social security, and saving the little bit of democracy we still have. Biden aligns. Hunter is an insignificant footnote. Also not worried about gangs of Transgenders ruining the country; amuck in sin. This seems to be the repugnant party's platform.

Wanda Sykes' advice to book banning right wingers worried about Transgender folk and varied and sundry  things they classify as "woke":

"Until a drag queen walks into a school and beats eight kids to death with a copy of 'To Kill A Mockingbird', I think you're focusing on the wrong shit."

More words from Wanda:
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on September 20, 2023, 08:20:38 PM
It's culture wars baby.  Culture wars. 

Legislate?  What, are you kidding me? 

$8 Trillion added to debt when Trump was in charge, but Wanda wants to marry Wendy in Washington, and soldiers want to be able to obtain legal abortions, so debt once again suddenly matters.

Crazy shit that some folks love.  I wish I understood it.

Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on September 20, 2023, 08:50:18 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on September 20, 2023, 08:20:38 PMIt's culture wars baby.  Culture wars. 

Legislate?  What, are you kidding me? 

$8 Trillion added to debt when Trump was in charge, but Wanda wants to marry Wendy in Washington, and soldiers want to be able to obtain legal abortions, so debt once again suddenly matters.

Crazy shit that some folks love.  I wish I understood it.



That Tuberville guy is a real asshole. He's jacking with the entire US military over abortion. There is no way that much power should pivot on one man's demented idea of what a "baby" is.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on September 21, 2023, 03:00:06 PM
Trumper Lin Wood to testify against Donald Trump (https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/pro-trump-attorney-lin-wood-prosecution-witness-georgia/story?id=103359555)

Claims that he hasn't "flipped".  I'm sure Mafia Don will be understanding, lol.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on September 23, 2023, 11:08:08 PM
Colorado judge issued a protective order prohibiting threats and intimidation related to the case (https://apnews.com/article/trump-amendment-ballot-ban-insurrection-colorado-4641bcfff79abf1d5d79dae7c3a73fa6)

QuoteThe order prohibits parties in the case from making threatening or intimidating statements. Scott Gessler, a former Colorado secretary of state representing Trump in the case, opposed it. He said a protective order was unnecessary because threats and intimidation already are prohibited by law.
And yet, here we are.  It's true that those things are against the law.  It's also true that Trump is quite fond of such tactics.  What is not true is that Trump is prosecuted for unlawful activities that ordinary people would definitely be harshly punished for.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on September 23, 2023, 11:16:36 PM
I expect The Donald to simply ignore the order.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on September 24, 2023, 09:22:10 PM
I am amused that people are talking about using the 14th amendment to keep him off the ballot, when to do that a conviction - not just an accusation - is needed.  They are acting prematurely.

The problem is, these legal actions must succeed completely, or they will backfire completely.  Already Trump is playing this off as persecution.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on September 24, 2023, 09:37:03 PM
I was under the impression that a conviction is not needed. Was I wrong about that?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on September 25, 2023, 09:16:06 PM
Anyone can be accused of anything, there's nothing special about that.  To say "he did it" needs just a little bit more.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on September 27, 2023, 08:39:04 PM
No it doesn't.  The 14th Amendment does not require a conviction.  This man earned his own disbarment. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on September 28, 2023, 12:03:25 AM
Judge denies Trump's demand that she recuse herself from his case (https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/27/politics/tanya-chutkan-donald-trump-recusal-motion/index.html)

Quote"Presidents are not kings, and Plaintiff is not President," Chutkan wrote in November 2021.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on September 28, 2023, 12:37:10 AM
Why isn't Rump behind bars yet? 🤔
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on September 28, 2023, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 28, 2023, 12:37:10 AMWhy isn't Rump behind bars yet? 🤔

About 1/4th of the US population would suck his dick if he dropped trou on 5th Avenue in NYC. It's a dangerous, highly-armed bunch, too. No president has been the "perpetraitor" of so much law-breaking, and nobody wants to set the precedent of locking up Don the Con, EX-president. Other countries do it, I don't see what makes the US so special.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on September 28, 2023, 11:10:57 AM
I hear the Church Lady saying "Well, aren't we special!"
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on September 28, 2023, 11:44:28 AM
Special, as in "Special Ed"? 😁
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on September 28, 2023, 09:01:23 PM
Amazing how as soon as WW2 passed from living memory, white nationalism is back. Every time that automated phone message gives them a Spanish-language option their pulse goes up a bit. Trump is their Saviour, and everything gets coded into symbolism, just like the bible and the good ole KKK days.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on September 28, 2023, 09:08:42 PM
Quote from: Cassia on September 28, 2023, 09:01:23 PMAmazing how as soon as WW2 passed from living memory, white nationalism is back. Every time that automated phone message gives them a Spanish-language option their pulse goes up a bit. Trump is their Saviour, and everything gets coded into symbolism, just like the bible and the good ole KKK days.
It was never really gone in the US.  But it was somewhat hidden for a while, which I thought meant it was on decline.  But apparently, all it took was a few influential (read: rich) blowhards to blow on those embers and ignite some tiki torches.  But they've been beaten back before, so they can be beaten back again.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on September 29, 2023, 09:07:13 PM

Interesting speech.  I wonder who he might be talking about...

(Trump people who are offended might want to ask themselves why they hear "wannabe dictator" and think about Trump.  A little self-reflection is probably long overdue)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on September 29, 2023, 09:09:38 PM
And Scott Hall pleaded guilty as a co-defendant in the Georgia case.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-co-defendant-pleads-guilty-georgia-election-case-rcna118140

Oh, and as part of the plea deal, he will testify in future court cases.  Poor Donald.  Did I already mention you're in trouble?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on October 03, 2023, 11:04:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/k5gJhPkl.jpeg)

Source (https://www.forbes.com/sites/willskipworth/2023/10/02/trump-gripes-its-unfair-he-doesnt-have-a-jury-but-he-never-asked-for-one-in-ny-fraud-case/?sh=16a2755c5172)

🤔
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on October 03, 2023, 01:49:26 PM
I'm hoping that they did it on purpose, just to see the asshole lose.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 03, 2023, 05:44:59 PM
It seems that Rump now wants help from Engoron, the judge he recently insulted! 🤪
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 03, 2023, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on October 03, 2023, 11:04:35 AM(https://i.imgur.com/k5gJhPkl.jpeg)

Source (https://www.forbes.com/sites/willskipworth/2023/10/02/trump-gripes-its-unfair-he-doesnt-have-a-jury-but-he-never-asked-for-one-in-ny-fraud-case/?sh=16a2755c5172)

🤔

His lawyers of course didn't want a jury trial, because being convicted by a jury would be really, really bad for his public image.  This way post-conviction he can bad mouth the judge with his usual third-grade insults and sue his attorneys for crappy advice.   
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on October 04, 2023, 08:45:18 AM
Quote from: Cassia on September 28, 2023, 09:01:23 PMAmazing how as soon as WW2 passed from living memory, white nationalism is back. Every time that automated phone message gives them a Spanish-language option their pulse goes up a bit. Trump is their Saviour, and everything gets coded into symbolism, just like the bible and the good ole KKK days.
Good news! In 14 years the ww2 hundredth anniversary observations will start.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 04, 2023, 11:35:42 AM
I just saw that Rump threw a late night tantrum over the way he was roasted by the late night TV shows!.
What the hell did he expect!?
🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on October 04, 2023, 11:38:28 AM
Why didn't he have a heart attack?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on October 04, 2023, 12:40:12 PM
We can put him on a shell and I'd be the cox'n, calling cadence, "Stroke...stroke...stroke..."
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 04, 2023, 12:52:31 PM
 
Quote from: the_antithesis on October 04, 2023, 11:38:28 AMWhy didn't he have a heart attack?
Maybe all that McDonalds he's been eating will give him one. We can only hope! 🍔 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on October 04, 2023, 04:39:03 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on October 04, 2023, 11:35:42 AMI just saw that Rump threw a late night tantrum over the way he was roasted by the late night TV shows!.
What the hell did he expect!?
🤣
He expected, as usual, to be treated with a great deal more respect than he deserves. That's what happens when you start believing your own PR.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 04, 2023, 08:40:14 PM
I don't want Rump under indictment, I want him under a headstone. 💩
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on October 04, 2023, 09:26:54 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on October 04, 2023, 08:40:14 PMI don't want Rump under indictment, I want him under a headstone. 💩
You're not going to have to wait long either way, considering his physique.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 04, 2023, 09:31:14 PM
I just hope I don't precede him in either category... 🤔
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 05, 2023, 12:02:39 AM
If Rump were to be made the Speaker of the House, what kind would he be, a woofer or a tweeter? 🤔
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 05, 2023, 02:32:20 AM
I see that yesterday was National Kevin Day! I hope McCarthy had a good time! 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 07, 2023, 10:20:42 PM
Looks like Rump expects SCOTUS to bail him out of his legal troubles.
Unfortunately, that wouldn't surprise me.
🤬
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 09, 2023, 12:09:29 AM
Donald can expect a shit storm of evidence in future trials... mostly because they're scheduled.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 09, 2023, 12:21:35 AM
Does he even have any lawyers left?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 09, 2023, 12:24:59 AM
The griftees are always willing to pay the grifters legal bills.  I don't get it but I'm not in the cult.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on October 11, 2023, 02:13:47 AM
George Santos just got hit with 23 charges (https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/congressman-george-santos-charged-conspiracy-wire-fraud-false-statements-0), including conspiracy to commit offenses against the United States (presumably unrelated to political affiliation), wire fraud, identity theft, making materially false statements to the FEC (clearly a case of alternative facts misrepresented as criminal activity), money laundering, and theft of public funds.

Sooo...when's Trump going to make him his Veep?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on October 11, 2023, 08:53:48 AM
He's too young and too broke to hide his tracks. Not bad enough for the chump to use.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on October 11, 2023, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on October 11, 2023, 08:53:48 AMHe's too young and too broke to hide his tracks.
Not true.  According to his autobiography, he is over 300 years old and has over 8 gajillion space credits already, despite the currency's introduction to the Earth Empire in the late 24th century.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 12, 2023, 11:15:11 PM
https://apnews.com/article/trump-insurrection-14th-amendment-ballot-colorado-c699e7c00687be6bc4bedbaf4182e451

Seems the guy with a mere 91 pending felony charges just can't catch a break.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 13, 2023, 04:25:44 PM
Don-key Rump says that Hezbolla is "smart." But then, compared to Rump, Homer Simpson is smart.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 13, 2023, 09:53:35 PM
Homer Simpson?  Heck, I've known tomatoes smarter than Donald Trump.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 16, 2023, 03:15:01 PM
How will gag orders against Rump be enforced? Will he be jailed if he violates them?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 16, 2023, 03:56:30 PM
Did Rump really say that he's more famous than Jesus!? 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 16, 2023, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on October 16, 2023, 03:15:01 PMHow will gag orders against Rump be enforced? Will he be jailed if he violates them?

Ideally, yes.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 16, 2023, 08:33:31 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on October 16, 2023, 03:56:30 PMDid Rump really say that he's more famous than Jesus!? 🤣

Don't know.  Jesus is pretty tight-lipped about the whole thing. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on October 17, 2023, 12:19:53 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/5ngBeusl.jpeg)

#JustCultThings
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on October 17, 2023, 12:25:59 AM
(https://thecomingrevival.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Apostles-Ends-1.png)

Sounds good to me.

Let's shove a live snake up his ass.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 17, 2023, 12:53:29 AM
They should gag him - with a rattlesnake.🐉
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on October 17, 2023, 07:17:27 AM
Quote from: the_antithesis on October 17, 2023, 12:25:59 AM(https://thecomingrevival.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Apostles-Ends-1.png)

Sounds good to me.

Let's shove a live snake up his ass.

Most of this has never been substantiated. It is a ploy to encourage martyrdom and useless sacrifice. Catholics especially love to play the "poor us" card.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on October 17, 2023, 10:13:56 AM
True, but I doubt the Donald would like to be a martyr all that much.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 17, 2023, 11:29:09 AM
Quote from: the_antithesis on October 17, 2023, 12:25:59 AM(https://thecomingrevival.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Apostles-Ends-1.png)

Sounds good to me.

Let's shove a live snake up his ass.
They have no remains because they never existed.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 18, 2023, 07:14:49 PM
"They have no remains because they never existed."

Now there's a conundrum.  If history says you existed but never actually did, did you exist or not?  Damned if I know, but I still know Donald Trump is in trouble.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 18, 2023, 08:04:03 PM
What happened to the remains of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson?
🤔
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mike Cl on October 19, 2023, 08:46:12 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on October 18, 2023, 08:04:03 PMWhat happened to the remains of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson?
🤔
They are next to Betty Crocker. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on October 19, 2023, 06:08:45 PM
Looks like Sidney Powell plead guilty.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 19, 2023, 07:54:14 PM
Yeah, and it seems she's agreed to testify against Rump and his co-conspirators. 😼
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on October 19, 2023, 08:20:06 PM
Flipping like tiddlywinks(R)!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 19, 2023, 10:56:03 PM
They call her Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning... 🐬
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 20, 2023, 07:49:05 PM
My buddy and I sing that song every time we have to 'flip' over the sand trap. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on October 20, 2023, 08:13:06 PM
Now I see Chesebro copped a plea. Gotta be disconcerting for the traitor-in-chief. 😄
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 20, 2023, 08:18:54 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-co-defendant-in-georgia-2020-election-case-kenneth-chesebro-pleads-guilty/

Many, many things are going wrong for Donald right now. They are going to get worse.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 20, 2023, 09:48:12 PM
I wonder how much his fine will be? 🤔
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 20, 2023, 10:21:38 PM
Does he care?  The dotards will gleefully pay the legal fees of a supposed billionaire. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 22, 2023, 07:24:24 PM
Did someone here say that Don-key Rump would declare that Powell was never his lawyer? Well, he's done just that! 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on October 22, 2023, 08:33:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KUB1pfkl.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iaqRnVm.jpeg)

Yeah, let's trust the guy who's too senile to know who he hired as a lawyer with the nuclear codes.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 23, 2023, 06:08:40 PM
Congratulations to anyone who still thinks this man should anywhere near the presidency - again. You can spew campaign bullshit and lies, but you can't do that in a court of law.  Donald is finding that out - far too late in life for my liking - but he's still finding it out.   
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on October 23, 2023, 07:03:09 PM
It is appalling to me that he even gained a candidacy the first time. I've never considered him as worthy of that office, let alone even dog catcher. Yet I know people who will readily vote for him again. One of my Magat neighbors took down his Chump flag after 1/6, but he has it back up on the flagpole in his front yard. 🙄
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on October 23, 2023, 07:08:49 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on October 23, 2023, 07:03:09 PMIt is appalling to me that he even gained a candidacy the first time. I've never considered him as worthy of that office, let alone even dog catcher. Yet I know people who will readily vote for him again. One of my Magat neighbors took down his Chump flag after 1/6, but he has it back up on the flagpole in his front yard. 🙄
meanwhile...
(https://ktul.com/resources/media/87c23588-d773-4944-ad43-7e464c346cad-full1x1_GettyImages1228376182.jpg?1599470621421)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 23, 2023, 07:59:39 PM
I still don't understand why his fans haven't made a sign or a flag that says

TRiUMPh

It seems to me that someone could make a lot of money selling them.

🤔
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on October 23, 2023, 08:05:42 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on October 23, 2023, 07:59:39 PMI still don't understand why his fans haven't made a sign or a flag that says

TRiUMPh

It seems to me that someone could make a lot of money selling them.

🤔
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on October 24, 2023, 02:09:42 AM
Quote from: Cassia on October 23, 2023, 07:08:49 PMmeanwhile...
(https://ktul.com/resources/media/87c23588-d773-4944-ad43-7e464c346cad-full1x1_GettyImages1228376182.jpg?1599470621421)

Can't we just take a saw to the Mason-Dixon line and set the South free?

Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 25, 2023, 12:16:11 PM
Apparently Don-key Rump doesn't have friends, only fiends. ☠️
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on October 25, 2023, 12:20:30 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on October 25, 2023, 12:16:11 PMApparently Don-key Rump doesn't have friends, only fiends. ☠️
Like rats on a sinking ship.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 25, 2023, 12:33:05 PM
He thought his ship was unsinkable, but he was his own iceberg. 😉
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on October 25, 2023, 01:03:07 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on October 23, 2023, 07:03:09 PM...I've never considered him as worthy of that office, let alone even dog catcher....

We definitely don't want him to be a dog catcher.

PETA was founded by a dog catcher.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on October 25, 2023, 07:28:03 PM
Has Mark Meadows flipped?  I don't know at this point.  https://abcnews.go.com/US/chief-staff-mark-meadows-granted-immunity-tells-special/story?id=104231281

ABC news says yes. 

"Mark Meadows always thought it was rigged, the whole thing was rigged," Trump said.

Perfect.  And now we have an election denying Speaker of the House. 

Vote like republicans are a threat to our society - because at this point they are. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on October 25, 2023, 10:50:45 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on October 25, 2023, 07:28:03 PMHas Mark Meadows flipped?  I don't know at this point.  https://abcnews.go.com/US/chief-staff-mark-meadows-granted-immunity-tells-special/story?id=104231281

ABC news says yes. 

"Mark Meadows always thought it was rigged, the whole thing was rigged," Trump said.

Perfect.  And now we have an election denying Speaker of the House. 

Vote like republicans are a threat to our society - because at this point they are. 

Sadly, my vote doesn't help on this, as I'm in California, a bluish state. There has been talk for many years about dividing California into pieces. 2/3 of those pieces would lean right. I'm pleased with that lack of division.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on October 30, 2023, 12:19:02 AM
Another Aleppo moment (https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-forgets-city-during-iowa-224540652.html)

I would cut him some slack - politicians visit lots of places and give out tons of speeches and so some minor errors are bound to crop up, but this one is a bit unusual in that typically, when people visit a place and intentionally work the place name into their speech, they typically put some effort in to get it right to not upset the natives.  Not Trump.

And this comes right on the heels of the Orban, leader of Turkey (https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-confuses-turkish-and-hungarian-leaders-orban-erdogan/) gaffe.  These are the sorts of people you meet as President and you better bring your A game to that.  You simply can't do international politics effectively without knowing basic stuff like the leaders of Turkey and Hungary.

I'm just saying, maybe a guy facing all sorts of serious legal problems and host to a number of glaring intellectual difficulties (possibly related to cognitive decline) probably shouldn't be the guy to lead the entire party and country.  And Pence was the one who dropped out, SMH.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on October 30, 2023, 04:47:38 AM
Quote from: Cassia on October 23, 2023, 08:05:42 PMshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Sell them and use the profits for a good cause.

Won´t win over any new votes to trump, and it will lessen what they have to spend on his legal defence funds and superpacs.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on October 30, 2023, 12:49:58 PM
Hell, I'd make them myself, but I don't know how, and I'm not motivated to make money.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 04, 2023, 04:59:07 PM
"Colleges and universities will purge antisemitism and pro-turds" -  said The Donald! 💩 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 07, 2023, 09:16:25 PM
Seth Meyers said "Donald Trump testified yesterday" - but he didn't, he "testilied." 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on November 07, 2023, 10:29:32 PM
You have to know that that judge is in a hard spot. Finding that guilty-ass chump culpable is going to put a target on Engeron's back. Best case scenario is that the chump gags and dies on a Big Mac. I can give my personal assurance that I will never gag on a Big Mac. That shit ain't real food.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 07, 2023, 10:32:15 PM
Yeah, last time I tried eating one I couldn't finish it. 🤮
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 08, 2023, 01:54:57 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 07, 2023, 09:16:25 PMSeth Meyers said "Donald Trump testified yesterday" - but he didn't, he "testilied." 🤣
I thought I had made up the word "testilied," but I googled it and found it at Wiktionary. I should have known I wasn't the first to come up with it! 👅
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 08, 2023, 04:15:10 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 07, 2023, 10:32:15 PMYeah, last time I tried eating one I couldn't finish it. 🤮
The fries were horrible too. 🍟
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mike Cl on November 08, 2023, 05:23:35 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 08, 2023, 04:15:10 PMThe fries were horrible too. 🍟
Of all the things McDonald's makes, their fries are the best--and I prefer them to any other fries from fast food sources.  Thin and crunchy, just the way I like them. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 08, 2023, 05:28:14 PM
About the only fast food I really like are the stuffed jalapeños at Jack in the Box.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on November 09, 2023, 05:22:35 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on November 08, 2023, 05:23:35 PMOf all the things McDonald's makes, their fries are the best--and I prefer them to any other fries from fast food sources.  Thin and crunchy, just the way I like them. 

Come eat fast food at a frituur.

Mhmmm, going to go to one tomorrow.
Better than Macdonalds or burger king.
Can´t attest to the rest. We don´t have wendy´s or whitecastle or taco bell, and never went to KFC.
But I have my suspicions
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on November 09, 2023, 09:30:59 AM
^ Those four things you mention not eating are truly not worth eating, imo.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on November 09, 2023, 06:22:36 PM
Oopsie (https://www.newsweek.com/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-emails-fraud-trial-donald-trump-1842193)

QuoteUnder normal court rules, any communication from one spouse to another is legally privileged and cannot be used in court.

However, Ivanka Trump wrote to her husband, Jared Kushner, on a Trump Organization email account. A judge ruled on Wednesday that her emails were admissible in the New York fraud trial of former President Donald Trump and his two adult sons.
"But her emails..."
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 09, 2023, 07:18:48 PM
I just learned from T. Wrecks that Kim Jong Un leads 1.4 billion people! What a guy! 😉
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on November 09, 2023, 07:34:36 PM
And Hungary again shares a border with Russia.  They'd better make up their mind, or out comes the sharpie. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 10, 2023, 06:55:44 PM
Is T. Wrecks really exempt from campaign finance laws!? Apparently that's the case. 😖
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on November 10, 2023, 06:58:24 PM
Seems the Trump family suddenly develop Alzheimer's when they get into court.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on November 10, 2023, 07:39:51 PM
Quote from: Cassia on November 10, 2023, 06:58:24 PMSeems the Trump family suddenly develop Alzheimer's when they get into court.

But they are required by law, like most any business, to keep emails and such. The prosecutors have been waving those sorts of records in the chump's family's faces at the trial.

Sarbanes-Oxley Act (https://www.lepide.com/blog/what-is-sox-compliance-and-what-are-the-requirements/)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mike Cl on November 11, 2023, 11:06:42 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 10, 2023, 06:55:44 PMIs T. Wrecks really exempt from campaign finance laws!? Apparently that's the case. 😖
It is exempt from any laws.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on November 11, 2023, 07:10:59 PM
Quote from: Cassia on November 10, 2023, 06:58:24 PMSeems the Trump family suddenly develop Alzheimer's when they get into court.

I only ran the company.  How was I supposed to know what was going on?  I poured concrete and relied on the guys who signed the forms.  Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 11, 2023, 09:14:22 PM
They're all just building their frequent liar miles.  🤥
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 12, 2023, 10:21:35 PM
The Donald has a BS in bullshit. Apparently so do his spawn.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on November 12, 2023, 10:43:44 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 12, 2023, 10:21:35 PMThe Donald has a BS in bullshit. Apparently so do his spawn.
Such a shame they got booted out of office.  And the Son-In-Law was *this* close to peace in the Middle East.  LOL
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on November 13, 2023, 09:38:25 PM
Now now Hydra.  He wasn't booted from office. We all know it was stolen from him through fraud and shenanigans as evidenced by the loss of 62 court cases, republican secretaries of state upholding the results, hand recounts, Bill Barr - "What you're peddling is bullshit" - and Chris Krebs, his own cyber security chief telling him the election was secure.

How's it feel to be on the list for 'retribution' if this maniac ever gets near the presidency again.   
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on November 13, 2023, 10:55:42 PM
But that pillow salesman said he had evidence...

Hopefully, he'll unveil it at the Four Seasons hotel or something spelled very similarly.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on November 14, 2023, 12:45:03 AM
Lindell is broke, and is going to be broker when this plays out. The man forfeited his company for lies while Trump grifts money and could care less about Mike Lindell, but thanks him for his mindless support.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on November 14, 2023, 12:48:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UPOrBnqScLY?feature=share

Vote for Donald.  Just remembered this one for some reason.  The entire Donald Trump fiasco is just a friggin' hoot.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 14, 2023, 01:06:55 AM
T. Wrecks is the grift that keeps on grifting. 💩
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on November 14, 2023, 07:55:27 AM
Trump is a secret germophobe. Everywhere he goes, staff is instructed to secretly hand him a new bottle of hand sanitizer. Also, only new ketchup bottles will do. He needs to hear that pop when opened. A man of the people.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on November 15, 2023, 11:53:43 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/5eD7EUCh.jpeg)

Conservatives sure seem to be outraged about one guy having absolute power 🙄🙄🙄
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on November 15, 2023, 04:23:04 PM
Jesus would obviously vote for tRump, right?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on November 15, 2023, 09:07:15 PM
Yeah, he probably would, other than he hasn't been around in 2000 years. Can he save up 2000 years of votes?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 15, 2023, 09:41:09 PM
Wouldn't Jesus live in Israel? If so, he wouldn't be able to vote in U.S. elections...
😉
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on November 15, 2023, 10:56:50 PM
Not under current law.  Who knows what could happen under republican leadership.

Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on November 28, 2023, 04:30:01 PM
No plea deal for you (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/28/trump-trial-georgia-no-plea-deal)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on November 29, 2023, 12:39:50 AM
During Jan 6th, Pence initially tried to weasel out of counting the electoral votes (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/28/pence-jan6-recusal/), but reconsidered/considered after being reminded by his son, who is a marine, of his constitutional duty.

QuotePence had momentarily decided against presiding, in part because it would be "too hurtful to my friend."
The friend in question (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/25/trump-expressed-support-hanging-pence-capitol-riot-jan-6-00035117)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on November 29, 2023, 12:53:56 AM
The "friend" who wanted him hung? 👀
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on November 29, 2023, 01:22:44 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on November 29, 2023, 12:53:56 AMThe "friend" who wanted him hung? 👀
And not just Pence in the past tense.

Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on December 02, 2023, 01:32:15 AM
https://www.startribune.com/judge-rejects-trumps-claim-of-immunity-in-his-federal-2020-election-prosecution/600323882/

I want to see this man broke and humiliated after all is said and done.  I think he's pretty well screwed both civilly and criminally.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: aitm on December 02, 2023, 08:31:25 AM
I want to see him "lie in state" as the past presidents and world leaders stay home and play scrabble while a thousand red neck magas stream by sobbing and crying......but hey...that's just me.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on December 03, 2023, 12:59:11 PM
Trumpalumpagus says he'd win California and New York if God and Jesus "came down" to oversee the election! 🤣
Fortunately for America that's the only way that could possibly happen! 🥳
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on December 04, 2023, 03:40:19 PM
Trump can get sued by capitol police officers!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on December 05, 2023, 12:12:27 AM
One of these days all of that Trump merchandise will be worth...nothing at all. 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 06, 2023, 05:31:07 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 05, 2023, 12:12:27 AMOne of these days all of that Trump merchandise will be worth...nothing at all. 🤣
That day has already arrived (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/01/trump-bucks-fake-currency-websites-taken-down)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 11, 2023, 12:37:37 AM
Yet another "senior moment" for Dotard Don (https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-complains-corporations-are-leaving-nation-points-to-exxon-going-to-dallas)

Even if we're extremely generous and I mean generous like the Saudis giving Jared Kushner briefcases full of money and expecting absolutely nothing in return *wink wink* and say that a company moving from New York to Dallas, while obviously not an example of a company leaving the country, but part of a general pattern of companies demanding "incentives" to build an office somewhere, (briefly) employing a bunch of people and becoming a big part of the community and then up and vanishing leaving everyone with nothing.

Even if we grant that, that happened 30 years before whoever he's having a temper tantrum at today did whatever whatever whatever...I'm already bored of this clownshow.  I can't wait for this guy to never make the news again.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on December 12, 2023, 12:09:56 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 11, 2023, 12:37:37 AMYet another "senior moment" for Dotard Don (https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-complains-corporations-are-leaving-nation-points-to-exxon-going-to-dallas)

Even if we're extremely generous and I mean generous like the Saudis giving Jared Kushner briefcases full of money and expecting absolutely nothing in return *wink wink* and say that a company moving from New York to Dallas, while obviously not an example of a company leaving the country, but part of a general pattern of companies demanding "incentives" to build an office somewhere, (briefly) employing a bunch of people and becoming a big part of the community and then up and vanishing leaving everyone with nothing.

Even if we grant that, that happened 30 years before whoever he's having a temper tantrum at today did whatever whatever whatever...I'm already bored of this clownshow.  I can't wait for this guy to never make the news again.
Might be a while since this idiocracy of extremes seems hellbent on ending itself.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 15, 2023, 11:30:08 PM
Rudy "Four Seasons" Giuliani ordered to pay nearly $150 million in damages (https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/15/politics/rudy-giuliani-verdict-pay-defamed-election-workers/index.html)

Man, I bet that could've bought a LOT of black hair dye.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on December 16, 2023, 12:25:37 AM
Old Bug-eyes deserves whatever he gets to lose.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on December 16, 2023, 03:54:42 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 15, 2023, 11:30:08 PMRudy "Four Seasons" Giuliani ordered to pay nearly $150 million in damages (https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/15/politics/rudy-giuliani-verdict-pay-defamed-election-workers/index.html)

Man, I bet that could've bought a LOT of black hair dye.

Or dentures.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on December 16, 2023, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on December 16, 2023, 03:54:42 AMOr dentures.

Doesn't he have the help chew his food? Because they're indentured servants.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on December 16, 2023, 04:39:12 PM
He's probably an antidentite... 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 17, 2023, 01:50:10 PM
Trump is quoting Putin again (the two are suspiciously chummy, and who knows what they scheme together behind closed doors), portraying his "persecution" (potentially facing mild consequences for grievous crimes) as proof of the "rottenness" of the democratic system.

The fact that an oligarch and con-man with a mad dream of tearing down American democracy and replacing it with dictatorship managed somehow to worm his way into taking over one party of a two-party system and then got on the ballot is a strong criticism of democracy.  Vigilance is certainly a vital component of democracy - and lamentably often lacking.

The fact that his campaign isn't doa is proof enough that democracy must be safeguarded much more strenously than it has been.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: aitm on December 17, 2023, 02:54:17 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 17, 2023, 01:50:10 PMTrump is quoting Putin again (the two are suspiciously chummy, and who knows what they scheme together behind closed doors), portraying his "persecution" (potentially facing mild consequences for grievous crimes) as proof of the "rottenness" of the democratic system.

The fact that an oligarch and con-man with a mad dream of tearing down American democracy and replacing it with dictatorship getting on the ballot is a strong pretty criticism of democracy.  Vigilance is certainly a vital component - and lamentably often lacking.

The fact that his campaign isn't doa is proof enough that democracy must be safeguarded much more strenously than it has been.
It's not that we didn't know racism was alive and well, it's we never thought it was as robust as it turns out to be.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 17, 2023, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: aitm on December 17, 2023, 02:54:17 PMIt's not that we didn't know racism was alive and well, it's we never thought it was as robust as it turns out to be.
Tell me about it.  This "poison blood" stuff is a new low for Trump and a level of racial bigotry hardly asserted in non-shithole countries anymore.  Perhaps that statement is still true.

And this worst part is this short-fingered vulgarian is trying his hardest to get his brand of BS/bigotry to stick in American society and is somewhat succeeding.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on December 18, 2023, 09:24:23 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 17, 2023, 03:35:05 PMTell me about it.  This "poison blood" stuff is a new low for Trump and a level of racial bigotry hardly asserted in non-shithole countries anymore.  Perhaps that statement is still true.

And this worst part is this short-fingered vulgarian is trying his hardest to get his brand of BS/bigotry to stick in American society and is somewhat succeeding.

I comfort myself with the belief - knowledge - that this man is loathed by the majority of the public.  MAGA is that 35% wart on the ass of society.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on December 19, 2023, 08:04:03 PM
Oopsies!  Well done Colorado Supreme Court. 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-insurrection-14th-amendment-2024-colorado-d16dd8f354eeaf450558378c65fd79a2

Will the US Supreme Court have the courage to back this up and enforce the Constitution?  We'll soon find out.

Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on December 19, 2023, 08:09:05 PM
There's no telling what the current SCROTUS is liable to do. They likely will back Trumpadumpagus, but we'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on December 19, 2023, 08:15:20 PM
The Colorado district court judge somehow ruled that while Trump likely committed insurrection, he was not in fact an "officer of the United States."  Really?  Then what the fuck is he - a janitor? 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 19, 2023, 10:42:19 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on December 19, 2023, 08:04:03 PMOopsies!  Well done Colorado Supreme Court. 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-insurrection-14th-amendment-2024-colorado-d16dd8f354eeaf450558378c65fd79a2

Will the US Supreme Court have the courage to back this up and enforce the Constitution?  We'll soon find out.


Just saw the news and came to this thread to celebrate/gloat!  Skål!

Of course, the real test is election day 2024 (henceforth Democracy Day or Dictatorship Day), but this is encouraging news and a clear precedent for other states to follow!  I hope *wink wink* no swing state were to abruptly dump the Trump as well *nudge nudge*
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 20, 2023, 12:01:24 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/hswJt02l.jpeg)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on December 20, 2023, 11:59:55 AM
Trumpadumpagus says he should've gotten the person of the year award instead of Taylor Swift! 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on December 20, 2023, 12:27:07 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 20, 2023, 12:01:24 AM(https://i.imgur.com/hswJt02l.jpeg)
Way too generous with Trump's figure, however.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 20, 2023, 01:37:28 PM
Yeah, a more realistic barrier would be one of those child gates.  :P
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on December 20, 2023, 01:39:52 PM
Quote from: Cassia on December 20, 2023, 12:27:07 PMWay too generous with Trump's figure, however.
I'm sure that's exactly how he sees himself. 💩
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 20, 2023, 01:52:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8SwDSt0l.jpeg)

It's been really fun watching the MAGA long-conned deal with all the bad news about Daddy Don in the only way they can - petulant little tempter tantrums and threats.  The kind of stuff that's barely tolerable for children is how they act on the national and world stage - and they fully expected to be rewarded for it in 2024.  Blessed be the mind too small for doubt :P
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on December 21, 2023, 11:41:03 AM
Have y'all seen Colbert's animation called The Indict-Mare Before Christmas? Absolutely stunning! 🤣Narrated by Liam Neesom!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 21, 2023, 11:57:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/5tnICkKl.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/PncCFS0.png)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 21, 2023, 03:08:23 PM
Giuliani files for bankruptcy (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/21/giuliani-148-million-damages-georgia-lawsuit)

Though just like with Alex Jones (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/15/alex-jones-infowars-sandy-hook-damages), it doesn't necessarily mean he has refrained from livin' large or that he has even partially paid what he owes.  These grifters have a disturbing tendency to ultimately evade the consequences of their actions and until they are held to truly account, they will continue to be a plague on society.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on December 21, 2023, 10:57:43 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 21, 2023, 11:41:03 AMHave y'all seen Colbert's animation called The Indict-Mare Before Christmas? Absolutely stunning! 🤣Narrated by Liam Neesom!

It was great!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on December 21, 2023, 11:00:30 PM
Rudy turned into a bag of shit, not to be confused with Donald Trump. who's been a bag of shit his entire life.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on December 21, 2023, 11:11:49 PM
Old Bug-eyes has fallen a long way since his time as "America's mayor."
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on December 22, 2023, 05:50:52 PM
Putin may be prone to defenestration, but with Trumpadumpagus he was more prone to deep penetration... 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 23, 2023, 11:26:45 AM
Motion filed in Virginia to remove violent insurrectionist ringleader Trump from the ballot (https://www.wric.com/news/virginia-news/motion-filed-to-remove-trump-from-virginia-ballots/)

#DumpTheTrump
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 29, 2023, 12:26:15 AM
Insurrection Don dumped from Maine ballot (https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/28/maine-kicks-trump-off-ballot-under-14th-amendment-00133294)

QuoteMaine's top election official ejected former President Donald Trump from the state's ballot on Thursday, declaring him ineligible to serve as president because of his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on Congress.

QuoteThe decision makes Maine the second state in two weeks to disqualify Trump's candidacy due to the constitutional bar on officeholders who supported or "engaged in insurrection or rebellion." Last week the Colorado Supreme Court barred Trump from the state's Republican primary ballot under a similar interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

Quote"I am mindful that no Secretary of State has ever deprived a presidential candidate of ballot access based on Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment," Bellows wrote. "I am also mindful, however, that no presidential candidate has ever before engaged in insurrection."
She has a good point.  Either you're a legitimate candidate operating through the legitimate election process or you're not.  If you're not, then you can't expect to be put on the ballot.  Can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on December 30, 2023, 05:37:30 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/threaten-us-with-a-good-time-why-dont-you-v0-z8nm4tfqie9c1.png?auto=webp&s=39b277bcb92eabcba1d70f55132131f13684f793)

Oh no! /s
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Luther Martini on December 30, 2023, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 30, 2023, 05:37:30 PM(https://preview.redd.it/threaten-us-with-a-good-time-why-dont-you-v0-z8nm4tfqie9c1.png?auto=webp&s=39b277bcb92eabcba1d70f55132131f13684f793)

Oh no! /s

WOW!!  How convenient would that be!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on December 30, 2023, 07:38:04 PM
^ Yes, please!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on December 31, 2023, 08:23:17 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 30, 2023, 05:37:30 PM(https://preview.redd.it/threaten-us-with-a-good-time-why-dont-you-v0-z8nm4tfqie9c1.png?auto=webp&s=39b277bcb92eabcba1d70f55132131f13684f793)

Oh no! /s
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 30, 2023, 05:37:30 PM(https://preview.redd.it/threaten-us-with-a-good-time-why-dont-you-v0-z8nm4tfqie9c1.png?auto=webp&s=39b277bcb92eabcba1d70f55132131f13684f793)

Oh no! /s

That'll learn them commies good!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on December 31, 2023, 09:37:38 PM
For some reason Ron DeSantis says that if Fort Lauderdale were attacked by the Bahamas, the USA would flatten it within 12 hours.
What the hell is he talking about!? 🤔
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Sargon The Grape on January 01, 2024, 03:54:01 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 30, 2023, 05:37:30 PM(https://preview.redd.it/threaten-us-with-a-good-time-why-dont-you-v0-z8nm4tfqie9c1.png?auto=webp&s=39b277bcb92eabcba1d70f55132131f13684f793)

Oh no! /s
Unfortunately, I don't think refusing to vote means refusing to meddle in government. These people are 100% gonna try another coup the instant they think they have a chance. What was the saying? "When conservatives fail to get elected, they don't reject conservatism, they reject democracy." Or something like that.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on January 01, 2024, 11:52:05 PM
Donny's in trouble
Seems 91 indictments
Fails to upset dorks
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 02, 2024, 01:54:33 AM
Well, almost a haiku... 🤣
🤓
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 02, 2024, 02:34:36 PM
Trump paid someone to "find" voter fraud, then lied about it (https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2024/01/02/trump-lies-voter-fraud-2020-impact-2024-election/72057016007/) when he didn't get the results he wanted
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 03, 2024, 08:41:36 PM
Trump loses attempt to delay his rape case (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/03/trump-loses-e-jean-carroll-trial-delay-appeals-bid.html)

In court January 16th.  His least favorite Jan x6th right after his favorite.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 03, 2024, 09:20:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/t9OcsFZl.png)

Trump's insurrection was precisely an attempt to circumvent the will of the voters, so by her own logic, Trump shouldn't be on the ballot.  #doublethinkmoment
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 04, 2024, 11:53:56 PM
Moment of Zen:

Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 05, 2024, 09:38:25 AM
One needn't be psychic to see shit coming for the chump. I truly do not expect that he will ever be incarcerated, though. More's the pity.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on January 05, 2024, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 05, 2024, 09:38:25 AMOne needn't be psychic to see shit coming for the chump. I truly do not expect that he will ever be incarcerated, though. More's the pity.
Still trying to figure out what "being psychic" means, but I am leaning towards nothing at all. I'm sure some are more able to formulate probable outcomes better than others, but that would not be a supernatural ability. When a live audience is involved, it seems mirrors, helpers planted in the audience, cameras and earphones and statistical knowledge of names, causes of death...actuary type stuff can make you seem psychic.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 05, 2024, 04:12:23 PM
Psychics grew out of beliefs about ESP, that some people could *somehow* sense things beyond normal human senses.  In that way this belief could theoretically appeal equally to people who are or aren't religious.  Imo, it's very much like astrology and other woo.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 05, 2024, 05:13:42 PM
I lost interest in psychics when I realized that they couldn't demonstrate their supposed powers.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on January 05, 2024, 11:50:08 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on December 19, 2023, 08:04:03 PMOopsies!  Well done Colorado Supreme Court. 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-insurrection-14th-amendment-2024-colorado-d16dd8f354eeaf450558378c65fd79a2

Will the US Supreme Court have the courage to back this up and enforce the Constitution?  We'll soon find out.



Until Trump is convicted, this is going to go poorly for Trump's opponents.  He is campaigning on being persecuted by the system.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 06, 2024, 02:35:27 AM
Unfortunately, Mafia Don himself has enough plausible deniability going on to not be convicted of insurrection, though a lot of his lackeys were of course convicted for their roles on Jan 6th.

But one would have to be a complete fool to not realize the connection between Jan 6th and Trump's incessant "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" remarks after he lost the election and refused to concede and instead lied while pressuring states to "stop the count" when he was ahead but not all ballots had been counted.

And it would take the world's biggest idiot - the sort of person who would take horse dewormer for a deadly pathogen but not a tailor-made vaccine - an american idiot - to not have serious reservations about putting a guy on the ballot who refuses to play by the rules and accept the results.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 06, 2024, 01:57:06 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/pN9WEubl.jpeg)

From the horse's mouth, he made it happen, and threatens to do so again.

Also, I hate to point out the bleedin' obvious, but some people in this country are either dense or deep in denial, but they weren't arrested merely for trespassing (ask the zip tie guy or the guy attacking a cop), "fighting" in this context is not at all metaphorical, and finally - and this is crucial - innocent people don't threaten or plan violence when things don't go their way.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 06, 2024, 03:13:18 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 06, 2024, 01:57:06 PM(https://i.imgur.com/pN9WEubl.jpeg)

From the horse's mouth, he made it happen, and threatens to do so again.

Also, I hate to point out the bleedin' obvious, but some people in this country are either dense or deep in denial, but they weren't arrested merely for trespassing (ask the zip tie guy or the guy attacking a cop), "fighting" in this context is not at all metaphorical, and finally - and this is crucial - innocent people don't threaten or plan violence when things don't go their way.
I don't know what the image was, but it no longer exists or is no longer available. 🤔
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on January 06, 2024, 04:20:03 PM
It was a horse's mouth.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 06, 2024, 05:52:31 PM
If it was about the Donald, I assumed it was a horse's ass... 🐎
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 06, 2024, 07:42:04 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 06, 2024, 03:13:18 PMI don't know what the image was, but it no longer exists or is no longer available. 🤔
(https://i.imgur.com/RmqKa8h.jpeg)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 06, 2024, 09:30:21 PM
Hmmmm... (https://chicago.suntimes.com/2024/1/6/24027720/donald-trump-loyalty-oath-illinois-ballot-advocate-overthrow-government-pledge-mccarthy-red-scare)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 06, 2024, 09:32:33 PM
Interesting, I was just reading about that!🖖
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on January 06, 2024, 10:41:30 PM
The Epstein files have been released. They mention the Don.  Apparently while Epstein was traveling with a girl they stopped by a Trump Casino.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on January 06, 2024, 11:18:30 PM
The man called Donald
Insulting to our country
Go away in shame
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 07, 2024, 04:44:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/RmUF02Sl.jpeg)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/republican-elise-stefanik-wont-commit-certifying-2024-election-results-rcna132700

Hmmmm...
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on January 07, 2024, 11:45:48 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 07, 2024, 04:44:32 PM(https://i.imgur.com/RmUF02Sl.jpeg)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/republican-elise-stefanik-wont-commit-certifying-2024-election-results-rcna132700

Hmmmm...

Edited to add that 'any election not won by Donald Trump is fraudulent'.   
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 07, 2024, 11:53:14 PM
Any election won by Trumpadumpagus is flatulent.
💩
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 08, 2024, 12:29:50 AM
I'm just saying, they're telegraphing the punch.  Definitely a good idea to react accordingly.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 10, 2024, 07:00:50 PM
Trump won't be allowed to make a closing argument (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/10/trump-not-allowed-make-new-york-fraud-trial-closing-argument.html) because...wait for it...he couldn't follow the rules and agree to the judge's terms.  Big shock.

And before anyone claims that he's somehow being muzzled:

QuoteEngoron said Trump would be allowed to speak only about "material facts that are in evidence, and application of the relevant law to those facts," just as lawyers are likewise restrained.

QuoteEngoron also rejected a bid by Trump to postpone closing arguments by nearly three weeks because Trump's mother-in-law died Tuesday.
Speaking of, did you know about 17,000 died from Trump's "miracle cure" for covid (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-drug-covid-deaths-hydroxychloroquine-b2474022.html)?  Lots of people are missing someone, but there's one person nobody is gonna miss.

Bonus: Pro-insurrectionists given a dressing down (https://i.imgur.com/ukKNVMB.mp4) that they earned many times over.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 14, 2024, 07:22:11 PM
Trump and GOP rivals urge Iowans to brave the cold and vote (https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2024-01-14/republicans-battle-cold-in-iowa-with-big-poll-setting-the-tone)

Quote"You can't sit home... Even if you vote and then pass away, it's worth it," Trump said to laughter.
Good one!

(https://media.tenor.com/XcpDIxsCWiAAAAAM/yeah-right-yeah-yeah-lol.gif)

Is his Twitter still active?  I haven't been since the latest journalist purge.

Well, I'm glad they're so passionate about voting (this year, maybe not next year).  I just wish they were equally passionate about counting the votes.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 16, 2024, 12:16:14 AM
Well, Trumpadumpagus won in Iowa, and Ramaswampy is out.
Anyone surprised?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on January 16, 2024, 09:12:10 AM
So frikkin stupid. I can't understand the logic in praising your opponent. Even going so far as to say he should not be charged with crimes.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 16, 2024, 09:20:26 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 16, 2024, 12:16:14 AMWell, Trumpadumpagus won in Iowa, and Ramaswampy is out.
Anyone surprised?
Out of the state's ~752k voters registered Republican, ~111k voted in that primary (for every Republican who voted, six stayed home) and ~53k voted for Trump (a little over half of those who showed up)

But most stayed home. (https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2024/01/16/iowa-caucus-turnout-registered-republicans-15-percent-cold-weather-snow-donald-trump-expectations/72067396007/)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 16, 2024, 11:22:58 PM
Some interesting polls (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iowa-caucus-entrance-polls-2024/) from the few Republicans who actually bothered to go:

59% want a nationwide ban on abortion (the majority of the antiabortion vote choice - a strange phrase in this context - went to Trump)
64% say Trump is fit to be president even if convicted of a crime (what's a little light treason among friends?)
65% say Biden didn't win "legitimately" (when asked the same thing to just Trump voters, that went up to 88% with 7% somehow admitting that Biden won fairly while simultaneously still voting for Trump, who lies about that constantly.  The remaining 5% apparently don't know how to answer a very simple yes/no question, which is also kind of on brand)

Trump allegedly did well in the demographics department - of people who showed up, who weren't much, because most Republicans didn't show.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 16, 2024, 11:59:11 PM
While we're on the topic of the "stolen" 2020 election, it turns out that Biden was actually shorted 4000 in Virginia's Prince William County (https://www.yahoo.com/news/virginia-county-finds-4-000-192058684.html?guccounter=1)

QuoteTrump incorrectly received 2,327 extra votes, while Biden was shorted 1,648 votes

Quote"The reporting errors were presumably a consequence of the results tapes not being programmed to a format that was compatible with state reporting requirements. Attempts to correct this issue appear to have created errors," said Eric Olsen, director of elections for the county.
Biden won Virginia with 2,415,216 votes versus 1,960,103 for Trump, so it's not like this revelation changes anything for that election.  Still, it's somewhat alarming that these byzantine voting systems used by the states have problems like this, especially when the elections are often nail-biters in some states.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 17, 2024, 12:25:28 AM
Iowa Republicans sucked Trumpadumpagus's caucus! 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on January 23, 2024, 11:45:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHzfhU8t5i8

The box is where Trumpers are living right now. I hope Nancy Pelosi... er, I mean Nikki Haley. will understand the box they're living in right now.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on January 23, 2024, 11:57:29 PM


"Greatest Hits" WTF?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 24, 2024, 11:55:05 PM
Keyanne Conway said Trumpadumpagus has been "gracious" about his wins in the caucuses!
I guess he's been 50 shades of gracious...
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on January 25, 2024, 01:18:54 PM
Will Donald have the courage to testify in the E. Jean Carroll trial today? He will either chicken out saying the whole thing is rigged or he won't be able to help himself and will begin spewing more nonsense which will anger the judge and probably the jury as well.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 25, 2024, 01:23:27 PM
I hope he does testify, but I doubt that he will. If he does, I expect him to testilie.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 25, 2024, 01:37:13 PM
Hearing Trump complain that Nikki Haley is being a sore loser by...*checks notes*...not immediately quitting after losing two states with a combined total of less than 2% of the US population, well that's quite something.  Especially since she now polls not too far behind him and currently has about 7 votes for every 10 he gets - maybe not enough to win, but definitely enough to be serious challenge.

Imagine if there was some guy - a real loser - whose loss enraged him so much that he set a mob on the Capitol in an attempt to destroy American democracy and people actually died because of it.  And then he ran again like nothing happened and he didn't do anything wrong.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 25, 2024, 02:01:07 PM
The sumbitch has/had enough money, and people want it. They'll say and do anything to get a slice, including committing crimes. He's been surrounded by sycophants for so long that even he believes his own bullshit.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 25, 2024, 02:12:53 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 25, 2024, 02:01:07 PMThe sumbitch has/had enough money, and people want it.
That I can understand.  But the far more common scenario is that they're the ones handing over wealth to him.  That's why Trump loves milking Republicans so much - because it's so lucrative.  So many people give and give to this guy and get jack all for their efforts - I wish I could say that this is some abrupt shift from normal Republican operating procedure, but it's not.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 25, 2024, 02:50:49 PM
I'll clarify. It's the people who work for him, not the suckers who send it in.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 25, 2024, 04:09:09 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 25, 2024, 02:50:49 PMI'll clarify. It's the people who work for him, not the suckers who send it in.
Even then...  Did he even pay Giuliani?  So many of them were tossed aside or went to jail or otherwise lost favor.  Afaik, the only people who actually made out like bandits were all in his family.  With lots of Republicans, it really does seem like it's some perverted form of "loyalty" and sunk-cost fallacy rather than rational self-interest.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on January 25, 2024, 10:08:31 PM
Three minutes of testimony, and the man contained himself enough not to actually again defame E. Jean Carroll again.  Amazing.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on January 26, 2024, 12:06:11 AM
Trump NFTs for sale...get em fast!
(https://e3.365dm.com/23/04/1600x900/skynews-trump-nfts_6126870.png?20230419215530)
(https://e3.365dm.com/23/04/1600x900/skynews-trump-nfts_6126860.jpg?20230419215117)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 26, 2024, 12:20:25 AM
(https://img.ifunny.co/images/3b7c4606556cf1fc8a271d5b4068a5dacd2c8ebb0418dadcf1851b4c67cd8764_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 26, 2024, 12:21:48 AM
Those NFTs are great - to poop on! 💩 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on January 26, 2024, 12:30:46 AM
I'd be hard pressed to think of a more worthless investment.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on January 26, 2024, 12:33:56 AM
It's almost like the birth of a religion.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 26, 2024, 01:29:54 AM
Quote from: ferdmonger on January 26, 2024, 12:30:46 AMI'd be hard pressed to think of a more worthless investment.
Timeshare on Russian beachfront property near the Crimean bridge?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on January 26, 2024, 11:59:04 AM
Criminal Case Tracker
https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 26, 2024, 09:02:19 PM
$83 million (https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-trial-e-jean-carroll-01-26-24/index.html)

But the Presidential/Dictator hopeful urges voters to ignore the rape case he just lost lol, perhaps hoping that rape isn't a dealbreaker.  "I still have your vote, right?"
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 26, 2024, 09:24:11 PM
It's just more "fake news. "
🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 27, 2024, 12:26:41 AM
It's all okay, because trump is super religious - he's read all of the, umm what do you call it again?

Anyway, there's an image of him praying on FakeSocial.  A keen-eyed observer may notice that this "photo" has Trump with 6 fingers.  Haha that's definitely not because it's one of those AI-generated pictures.  Nope!  That's umm...a skin condition.  Press conference adjourned!  Just take a left at the dildo shop then a right at the crematorium to get to the parking lot.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 27, 2024, 12:30:14 AM
Hmmm, six fingers, huh? Maybe he's the guy who killed Inigo Montoya's father? 🤔

Trump doesn't pray, he preys.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on January 27, 2024, 03:42:10 AM
84 million for the defamation suit.

Was hoping a bit higher, but i understand this is already pretty high.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 27, 2024, 11:38:07 AM
The best way to punish rich people is to turn them into poor people.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 27, 2024, 06:47:42 PM
Ha! Don Jr. Says Tucker Carlson might be Trumpadumpagus's VP! 😱
🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 27, 2024, 08:59:11 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 27, 2024, 06:47:42 PMHa! Don Jr. Says Tucker Carlson might be Trumpadumpagus's VP! 😱
🤣
Equally as rational and respectable and has similar loyalties.  Makes sense.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on January 27, 2024, 11:20:08 PM
Because after Donald dies of hamberdercovfefeitis, nothing says competency more than President Carlson.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 27, 2024, 11:45:48 PM
Someone on top of this please refresh my memory. Didn't Carlson get out of a lawsuit because it was decided in court that he was unbelievable? Can't be asked to research it.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 28, 2024, 12:37:36 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 27, 2024, 11:45:48 PMSomeone on top of this please refresh my memory. Didn't Carlson get out of a lawsuit because it was decided in court that he was unbelievable? Can't be asked to research it.
Pretty much (https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye).  These slimeballs try to have it both ways - the appearance and gravitas of news, but when they're called out on it, it's just entertainment and their "facts" are only meant to be taken as hyperbole and "non-literal commentary".  Well, if that's the case, wear a wig and some clownshoes.

And of course, that's not how their audience sees things.  Their audience doesn't think they're playing a character.  Their audience hangs on their every word, sometimes doing illegal stuff on their behalf, like voting twice or shooting up a pizza place.  But just like Dear Leader, they accept no responsibility at all.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on January 28, 2024, 01:03:49 AM
Isn't he the guy who complained the M&M's candy mascots weren't sexy enough for him anymore?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 28, 2024, 01:21:20 AM
Quote from: the_antithesis on January 28, 2024, 01:03:49 AMIsn't he the guy who complained the M&M's candy mascots weren't sexy enough for him anymore?
Yes (https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-green-mandm-vs-tucker-carlson-drama-explained).  A real touch-grass moment.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 28, 2024, 01:28:14 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/F5QyXOc.png)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on January 28, 2024, 03:35:17 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 28, 2024, 01:21:20 AMYes (https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-sexy-green-mandm-vs-tucker-carlson-drama-explained).  A real touch-grass moment.

Is that a weed joke?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 28, 2024, 09:29:29 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/trump-sweating-underneath-his-bronzer-v0-nqkhttjtl1fc1.jpeg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3ba717cb25502ad3feb4472a8098ebb78c7fff30)

You feeling okay, buddy?  Cause you look kinda...uhh...
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 28, 2024, 09:37:38 PM
Quote from: the_antithesis on January 28, 2024, 03:35:17 PMIs that a weed joke?
No.  Saying that someone should touch grass means they're spending too much time on the internet and need to literally touch grass and reconnect with nature.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on January 28, 2024, 09:45:36 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 28, 2024, 09:37:38 PMNo.  Saying that someone should touch grass means they're spending too much time on the internet and need to literally touch grass and reconnect with nature.

Or reality.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on January 28, 2024, 09:51:45 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 28, 2024, 09:29:29 PMYou feeling okay, buddy?  Cause you look kinda...uhh...
He looks great, never better. And such an intelligent and knowledgeable gentleman too. His command of the English language is extraordinary. Someone to look up to and be inspired by.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on January 28, 2024, 10:00:36 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ba/b5/49/bab549f3cea1451dc4904e4d679edc91.jpg)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on January 28, 2024, 11:02:39 PM
Quote from: Cassia on January 28, 2024, 09:51:45 PMHis command of the English language is extraordinary.
Yeah, he's a cunning linguist.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on January 29, 2024, 01:28:09 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 28, 2024, 01:28:14 PM(https://i.imgur.com/F5QyXOc.png)

Or you could turn it into a museum of america's worst choices throughout history.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Sargon The Grape on January 29, 2024, 03:21:59 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on January 29, 2024, 01:28:09 AMOr you could turn it into a museum of america's worst choices throughout history.
I don't think Trump Tower is big enough to hold all of those.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on January 29, 2024, 12:56:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/VHJ5qHPl.png)

Projecting so hard, lol. 

Imagine assuming that everyone is so weak as to need a strongman to get into some weird parasocial relationship with and fawn over like he's some sort of religious figure.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on January 31, 2024, 08:23:17 AM
When Trump lost the Iowa caucus to Ted Cruz it was rigged. When his stupid TV show lost the Emmy, it was rigged, and the 2020 election was rigged before the election was even held. Every trial is rigged for sure. Except if he wins. Then it's all good. His suckers are such morons.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 31, 2024, 08:54:08 AM
The chump was bitching about the 2016 election being rigged. So, I'm not surprised when he keeps flogging that dead horse.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on February 04, 2024, 05:26:35 PM
I can't wait to see what the late night shows do with The Donald (💩) comparing himself to Elvis Presley! 🤣
I can see the resemblance, given that Elvis has been dead for nearly 50 years. The Donald (💩) looks like death warmed over.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on February 06, 2024, 02:05:42 PM
Us appeals court rules Donald has no immunity. Oops! I can't imagine the Supreme Court would overrule such an obvious ruling but who knows these days.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on February 06, 2024, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on February 06, 2024, 02:05:42 PMUs appeals court rules Donald has no immunity. Oops! I can't imagine the Supreme Court would overrule such an obvious ruling but who knows these days.
But can he be tried as an adult?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on February 06, 2024, 06:08:51 PM
Reading the comments in the paper I subscribe to.  The MAGA's never fail to disappoint:

'Stop villifying the man. Trump is old news.' (Trump villified himself.)

'What about Hillary and Gore, huh?'  (I agree.  What about them?

'He told the crowd to go home within 30 minutes, and he said peacefully.'  (It was 187 minutes and he used 'fight' repeatedly and 'peacefully' once.)

There is no length these people won't go to to defend the indefensible.
 

 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on February 06, 2024, 06:57:37 PM
Drumph tried to get vaccinated against being convicted, but but he doesn't believe in vaccinations.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on February 06, 2024, 08:05:33 PM
But on the bright side, he's learning slowly but surely that courts and juries are not campaign trails.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on February 06, 2024, 08:42:20 PM
Drumph? Learning!? Would that he could, but he can't, so he shan't
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on February 07, 2024, 01:22:39 AM
The Donald is fucked
I can commit crimes at will
Said only Donald
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 07, 2024, 07:47:01 AM
Forty-five worries
For one count and then him twice
No immunity
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on February 07, 2024, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: ferdmonger on February 06, 2024, 02:05:42 PMUs appeals court rules Donald has no immunity.
And it was unanimous.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on February 07, 2024, 11:23:02 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 07, 2024, 11:02:31 AMAnd it was unanimous.
Yeah, The Donald said "they don't want anyone to know who they are, so they want to remain unanimous." 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on February 07, 2024, 02:14:31 PM
Experts say ruling dismantled Trump's case so badly that the SCOTUS (plus that guy who was bribed by a billionaire and somehow kept his job) won't touch it (https://www.salon.com/2024/02/07/there-is-nothing-left-experts-say-ruling-dismantled-argument-so-scotus-wont-touch-it/)

We'll see.  While the Supreme Court has lost a lot of its prestige (due to open bribery), the ruling definitely hurt Trump's case to...*reads* be immune to prosecution for otherwise heinous criminal activity.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on February 15, 2024, 12:54:00 PM
MAGA flavor-aid drinkers: Stop the steal! (https://apnews.com/article/georgia-elections-true-vote-ballot-stuffing-199113b47bc2df79c63fdf007cd23115)

Judge: Got any evidence?

MAGA flavor-aid drinkers: Well...no...

These people want to run the government like a church, and churches run on unquestionable faith.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on February 17, 2024, 01:02:11 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/YLUhZeJl.jpeg)

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/nyregion/trump-civil-fraud-trial-ruling.html

Borders nothing.  It IS pathological.  And rallying behind an unrepentant criminal and worse is going to be incredibly costly for GQP when the bill comes due.

QuoteA New York judge on Friday handed Donald J. Trump a crushing defeat in his civil fraud case, finding the former president liable for conspiring to manipulate his net worth and ordering him to pay a penalty of nearly $355 million plus interest that could wipe out his entire stockpile of cash.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on February 17, 2024, 10:28:36 AM
I read that Drumph is going to make bigly bucks when his business merges with some other big company, like $3.95 billion.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on February 17, 2024, 12:27:40 PM
He'll need every red cent he can get to pay his lawyers (and his lawyers' lawyers) for the upcoming hush money trial (https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-arraignment-hush-money-81225510ef7638494852816878f612f0).  34 felony charges and the first time a former President has been charged with a crime.

Do you know how truly horrible someone has to have been as a President for things to come to this?  And the Republican Trump party wants best out of three.  Get outta here!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on February 17, 2024, 11:38:15 PM
Oh my Dog, I just saw an ad on YouTube for a Trumpinator bobblehead! 🤣

Actually, I guess it's more of a bubblehead. 🥳
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on February 22, 2024, 02:28:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Itoxeeol.png)

Source (https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-sneakers-black-vote-fox-news-host-raymond-arroyo-1872363)

I thought that surely he must've been taken out of context.  Nope.  Exactly what it says on the tin.

Some out-of-touch white guy (gee, I wonder why they didn't have a black person on staff to report this) gets on twitter (always a reliable barometer of the real world) sees a lot of people ridiculing the gawdy Treason 45s, applies very strange "logic" and naturally assumes people are flocking to Trump in droves (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias).  Let's be real, the only color this guy has ever seen in his life is the rouge he has his assistant apply to his cheeks before broadcast.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 22, 2024, 03:12:12 PM
There's a special kind of tone-deaf there.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on February 22, 2024, 08:44:12 PM
Judge denies Mafia Don's request to pause the previous trial's judgment (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fraud-case-new-york-judge-354-million/)

QuoteThe judge who ordered former President Donald Trump to pay $354 million in fines, and nearly $100 million in interest, in his civil fraud case in New York denied a request from Trump's lawyers to delay formalizing his decision.

In an email to Trump's legal team and lawyers from the New York Attorney General's Office on Thursday, Judge Arthur Engoron of the New York State Supreme Court said he would sign a judgment proposed by the state that finalizes his ruling.

"You have failed to explain, much less justify, any basis for a stay," he wrote

QuoteIn an interview earlier this week, James told ABC News that if Trump does not have the funds to pay the $354 million penalty, she is prepared to ask a judge to "seize his assets."
He's gonna have to sell a lot more crappy shoes than that.  Oh, I have an idea.  How about a partnership to sell steaks somewhere.  But where?  How about The Sharper Image.  They don't have steaks there, so he'll corner the market!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 22, 2024, 11:18:35 PM
Can't that pig fucker just choke on a Big Mac, already?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on February 23, 2024, 09:03:20 AM
The pillow grifter is being sued to put his $ where his pie hole is, LOL. What, Trump isn't on his NFT white horse to save him?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 23, 2024, 11:14:18 AM
MYsneaker
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on February 23, 2024, 10:12:22 PM
Apparently Marjorie Soylent Greene likes her judges nude, since she called for the judge in Drumph's case to be "disrobed." 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 23, 2024, 10:59:35 PM
I'd truly like that if "Empty G" died, her remains would be used to fertilize a crab apple tree, and publicly announced as such. Can't take credit for "Empty G", as I saw it elsewhere.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on February 23, 2024, 11:06:14 PM
I can't take credit for Marjorie Soylent Greene, either, since I heard it on Kimmel's show.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 24, 2024, 03:11:57 AM
I long for the olden days in which MTG meant something fun.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on February 26, 2024, 02:06:07 PM
Live Trump debt counter (https://trumpdebtcounter.com/) lol
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on February 26, 2024, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 26, 2024, 02:06:07 PMLive Trump debt counter (https://trumpdebtcounter.com/) lol

Oh god, that feels good.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 26, 2024, 04:20:47 PM
Warch him try and stiff the US gov, now.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on February 26, 2024, 05:15:42 PM
Yeah, the best way to punish rich people is to turn them into poor people.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on February 28, 2024, 11:56:06 PM
Insurrectionist ringleader disqualified from Illinois ballot (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-is-disqualified-illinois-ballot-judge-rules-2024-02-29/)

Unfortunately, it won't go into effect until after the Supreme Court rules along party lines reaches out into the ether and communes with the long-dead Founders, interpreting their will (in a way that matches the party line)

In the meantime, let's congratulate Justice Thomas on his new mansion, Kavannah for showing up sober and keeping his hands to himself, and finally, the one in the Handmaid's Tale outfit (truly, an inspiration for women everywhere and the unborn people inside them, as determined by the state in accordance with scripture)  The fulcrum on which the most powerful country of the Free World rests, ladies and gents.

Is the President bound by the law and the Constitution he swears to uphold?  Or can the President have a little insurrection as a treat?  Let's ask the guy who got bribed by a billionaire and respect his answer.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on February 29, 2024, 06:45:25 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 28, 2024, 11:56:06 PMInsurrectionist ringleader disqualified from Illinois ballot (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-is-disqualified-illinois-ballot-judge-rules-2024-02-29/)

Unfortunately, it won't go into effect until after the Supreme Court rules along party lines reaches out into the ether and communes with the long-dead Founders, interpreting their will (in a way that matches the party line)

In the meantime, let's congratulate Justice Thomas on his new mansion, Kavannah for showing up sober and keeping his hands to himself, and finally, the one in the Handmaid's Tale outfit (truly, an inspiration for women everywhere and the unborn people inside them, as determined by the state in accordance with scripture)  The fulcrum on which the most powerful country of the Free World rests, ladies and gents.

Is the President bound by the law and the Constitution he swears to uphold?  Or can the President have a little insurrection as a treat?  Let's ask the guy who got bribed by a billionaire and respect his answer.
Gotta love our Supreme Kangaroo clown court. The founding fathers just couldn't envision this level of corruption and self-servitude. Time for a constitutional overhaul as our politicians have attained all time ethical lows.  
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 02, 2024, 02:00:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2iBELWvl.jpeg)

(https://i.redd.it/o5y5y8mqcs961.jpg)

I didn't do a treason or attack anyone and enjoyed some tacos.  How y'all doing?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 03, 2024, 01:02:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Vjp7m8Gl.jpeg)

Source (https://www.rawstory.com/trump-confuses-biden-obama-again/)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on March 03, 2024, 01:05:30 PM
T. Wrecks will just say that he did that on purpose.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 04, 2024, 01:38:32 PM
The Supremely MAGA court voted along party lines.  Never could've seen that coming.

The States Rights people are estatic that the federal government has stepped in and wisely determined that the states can't determine who can appear on their own ballot (but only in Trump's case, afaik), so even an insurrectionist ringleader can and should have another go at capturing the Presidency.

And hey, if he becomes dictator-for-life, he apparently isn't the only one who dreams of unchecked, corrupting power.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 04, 2024, 01:52:35 PM
The MAGA-stacked court says that Congress should be the one to pass legislation to "remove a federal officer" from the ballot.

Congress right now:

(https://preview.redd.it/the-gop-is-never-okay-ever-v0-wd8uf0fhucmc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=308d5264d6487fffce45b9eeb298c4d0e0e16915)

Oh, yeah, I'm sure they'll get right on it.  Real champions of democracy right there.

Trump is emblematic of the main problem, but he would have never been an existential threat to American democracy without lots of help from plenty of lowlifes in high places.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 04, 2024, 10:27:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/f99qC8Al.jpeg)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on March 04, 2024, 11:11:09 PM
The movie 'Idiocracy' is a predictive documentary. It may have aimed too high. The US is an 'Imbecilocracy'. Therefore, our leaders must be at least morons.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 05, 2024, 03:41:40 AM
While I'm on a roll, might as well shed some light on the latest poll that has Trump at 48% to Biden at 43%

QuoteIt turns out, the NYT/Sienna poll oversampled rural voters by a whopping 84% in excess of their true proportion of the electorate. Let's be clear about something: THAT'S INSANE. No wonder Joe Biden is getting clobbered in the polls; the people answering these polls are a bunch of Trump lovers in rural areas.
Compared to the 2020 poll, responses coming from rural voters nearly doubled, giving a skewed and inaccurate impression of voter preferences.

QuoteThe evidence is clear: There is a huge polling problem. It is simply not acceptable for a major public opinion pollster to oversample the Trumpiest and most culturally conservative swaths of the electorate by 84%. Think about what that actually means: The influence of rural voters in America's supposedly #1 pollster has been nearly doubled. And it makes me disturbed that the public discourse surrounding Joe Biden's re-election campaign is now tied to the results of polls that are at best problematic, and at worst a total distortion.
Source (https://thedashfiles.substack.com/p/new-york-times-latest-poll-is-a-pile)

Either this is a serious error by people who do this stuff for a living and are highly acclaimed OR a deliberate distortion of the truth in order to nudge people to prematurely adopt certain conclusions (fud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt)).  Neither option is good.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on March 07, 2024, 08:08:30 AM
Is he single?..what a catch !
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIBfSZUWsAAdI1v?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 07, 2024, 03:19:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/vJlQsG2.mp4

While his supporters claim that he's a bigly intelligent stable genius, the reality is that he struggles, not just to talk clearly, but to think clearly.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 08, 2024, 02:20:26 PM
Trump pays $91 million bond (https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-secures-91-million-bond-judgment-jean-carroll/story?id=107921949) from his lost defamation case

QuoteThe conditions of the bond did not specify what assets Trump used to secure the bond.
What's the exchange rate from rubles to dollars?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on March 08, 2024, 08:26:53 PM
I thought the president gave a great state of the union talk and had the MAGATs on the ropes.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 08, 2024, 08:42:44 PM
I'm hoping that the SCOTUS decides that the POTUS has unlimited powers. Then Biden can put the Donald on a Navy ship offshore until dead. #ManWithoutaCountry

Sadly, that's fiction.

Put the chump in Club Fed without gold-plated toilets. I've considered the chump to be a chump since the first time I'd seen him in the news.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 09, 2024, 03:27:21 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on March 08, 2024, 08:42:44 PMI'm hoping that the SCOTUS decides that the POTUS has unlimited powers.
Nope.  It's like nominating a supreme court justice, only when the time is right and the time is only right when the Republicans are in power.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 09, 2024, 09:10:51 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 09, 2024, 03:27:21 AMNope.  It's like nominating a supreme court justice, you only when the time is right and the time is only right when the Republicans are in power.

Sad but true.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 09, 2024, 06:59:49 PM
And don't forget Mitch.  After reportedly not speaking to him for three years and saying he is morally responsible and can still be criminally prosecuted for the events of Jan 6, the man endorses him for president.  What a boot-licking scum sucker.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on March 09, 2024, 08:06:56 PM
I think that every one in the GOP is a Russian agent. I really hope I'm wrong about that, but I fear that I'm not.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 09, 2024, 08:33:13 PM
https://www.startribune.com/republican-senator-used-decades-old-example-of-rapes-in-mexico-to-attack-biden-border-policies/600349779/

How about the disgusting lies of Katie Britt?  It's a special kind of disgusting that while wearing a bejeweled cross around your neck you are actively bearing false witness against your neighbor.  Fucking freaks.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 09, 2024, 08:48:03 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on March 09, 2024, 06:59:49 PMAnd don't forget Mitch.  After reportedly not speaking to him for three years and saying he is morally responsible and can still be criminally prosecuted for the events of Jan 6, the man endorses him for president.  What a boot-licking scum sucker.

Hey, now, give the boot-licking scum suckers some cred! At least they're performing a useful service for the elite. /sarc
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 09, 2024, 08:56:21 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 09, 2024, 08:06:56 PMI think that every one in the GOP is a Russian agent. I really hope I'm wrong about that, but I fear that I'm not.
22 Republican Senators came out in support of Ukraine (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/12/us/politics/republican-defectors-ukraine-aid.html) so we can rule them out. The House as well at least initially, but with Johnson and it being an election year, well... we'll see soon.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 09, 2024, 10:29:52 PM
That we're keeping track of republican senators in favor of support for Ukraine speaks volumes about the times we're in.   
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 12, 2024, 03:45:42 AM
Trump employee who unwittingly moved the stolen classified documents speaks out about boss (https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/11/politics/trump-employee-5-classified-documents-mar-a-lago/index.html)

Unsurprisingly, he doesn't believe it's a witch hunt against his former boss.  Well, duh.  That's just what rats call it when the Feds are following their tracks.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: aitm on March 12, 2024, 08:06:23 AM
The trump family has successfully overtaken the GOP, given their penchant  for bedlam, this should be quite the spectacle.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 13, 2024, 04:17:49 AM
Not this time (https://www.thedailybeast.com/e-jean-carrolls-lawyers-foil-trumps-quiet-attempt-to-stall-dollar91-million-payment)

Trump tried to sneak in a 60-day delay on his payments, but Jean Carroll's Lawyers put a stop to it
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 13, 2024, 07:27:26 PM
And I just read that 63% of republicans are just fine with the RNC paying Donnie's legal bills.  What in the world has happened to this party. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 13, 2024, 08:38:34 PM
Just to add that I don't really see a problem with this.  If these dorks want to squander their money on paying off porn stars I'm good with that - leaves less money for down ballot races and advertising.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 13, 2024, 10:02:46 PM
Some of the remaining "leadership" (a generous term in a party so beholden to Trump that they sometimes don't even bother putting together a platform (https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2020/08/25/gop-no-platform-2020-trump)) is concerned about Trump wasting RNC funds (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/14/trump-rnc-legal-bills-00141540).  But they're no longer in control, so it doesn't much matter what they think - a system Trump would very much like to extend to the entire country.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on March 13, 2024, 10:45:13 PM
I expect that by the time November rolls around the Donald will be firmly ensconced in a facility for the criminally insane.
I really hope I'm right about that.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 13, 2024, 11:45:14 PM
Being kicked in the face with truth is painful, but it is still truth.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on March 14, 2024, 12:39:26 AM
Drumph can't handle the truth! 🧐
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 14, 2024, 03:02:59 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/jE5iQGvl.jpeg)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 14, 2024, 10:20:28 AM
Trump has a realistic chance of getting the presidency.
I still think it more likely biden will get his second term.
But it can come down to a few thousand votes in swing states, so nothing is certain.

But even if he does get the presidency again... I think it very likely he´ll bankrupt the rnc to get there, and help lose the house and squander the republicans chances of taking back the senate.
And he doesn't care, I think.
If he can be a powerful president, all the better. He´ll enact project 25 regardless and do anything he can to enrichen himself and project himself and expand his influence.
But he´ll Settle for being a lame-duck president with a senate and the house against him, if it means at least 4 more years of freedom and a shot at getting rid of some of those pesky lawsuits.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on March 14, 2024, 11:19:07 AM
By the time November is here Drumph won't have any base left, I think. Even his most die-hard fans will come to realize that he is the worst person on the planet to put in charge of the most powerful nation that has ever existed.
I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt it.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on March 14, 2024, 11:54:51 AM
What a country. For leader, it's a choice between the senile old man and the other senile old man.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on March 14, 2024, 12:23:18 PM
Well, I'd rather have a senile old man who isn't a wannabe tyrant than a senile old man who loves tyrants so much that he openly praises them in public and wants desperately to be one just so he can stay out of prison.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 14, 2024, 12:53:14 PM
I've been holding my nose and voting for what I consider the lesser of evils for decades. 🤷�♂️
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 14, 2024, 01:04:59 PM
Quote from: the_antithesis on March 14, 2024, 11:54:51 AMWhat a country. For leader, it's a choice between the senile old man and the other senile old man.

Funnily enough, hurr claimed in his full report that biden has an outstanding memory.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 14, 2024, 02:41:54 PM
Quote from: the_antithesis on March 14, 2024, 11:54:51 AMWhat a country. For leader, it's a choice between the senile old man and the other senile old man.
Biden has some issues without a doubt, but it's not "inject bleach" bad.  It's not "we're building a wall in Colorado" (referring to the border wall with Mexico) bad.  It's not Viktor Orban, the leader of Turkey bad.  It's not confusing Obama and Biden multiple times bad.  It's not getting the name of the city you're in wrong bad.

And yet 86% of Americans think Biden is too old to be President (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-americans-on-biden-age/story?id=107126589), while 62% of Americans think Trump is too old to be President.  Apparently that logic is unrelated to the facts on the ground, which wouldn't be a first for Americans, who also poll high (compared to the rest of the world) on creationism, the existence of angels, ghosts, and the devil.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 14, 2024, 08:56:46 PM
Judge denies Trump's request to dismiss charges in classified documents case (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/live-blog/trump-hearing-classified-documents-live-updates-rcna143103)

QuoteTrump's lawyers said the case should be thrown out because of the Presidential Records Act. Prosecutors said that law only applies to personal records, not classified national secrets.
Fun fact: the President Records Act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Records_Act) exists because Nixon sought to destroy records relating to him after he resigned.  His rationale was that they're his own private property, so he can do with them whatever he wants.  This act made the records public - so anything "documenting the performance of the President's official duties" has to be preserved.

Trump's lawyers are essentially arguing that this bathroom full of classified documents (perfect blackmail material and I'm sure his foreign friends positively love staying at his crib) doesn't constitute a crime because...these classified documents are somehow public property despite literally being taken as if they were Trump's private property, which they aren't.  Such a reach that they built a Halo structure around it or something (I'm not as well-versed in those games as I used to be)

QuoteTrump's lawyers also brought up the fact that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was never prosecuted for her use of a private email server.
You read that right.  They did a "BUT HER EMAILS!" in front of a federal judge lol.  What buffoons.  No wonder Trump wound up at a Four Seasons Total Landscaping.  I'm just amazed that it didn't happen sooner.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Susan on March 14, 2024, 10:50:22 PM
Is there any chance Biden gets re-elected?

Surely if you go by "mainstream media" news and reports, they are saying that Biden will very likely lose badly to Trump in November.

Which is ironic, given that Trumpists and conservatives in general are very fond of attacking "the press" as being somehow Left-leaning most of the time (lol...).
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 14, 2024, 10:57:29 PM
I (obviously) don't know the details of Hilary's reputed classified holdings. I will say (IMO) that the only likely way they got to her servers was from people who transcribed classified info onto another system and sent it. Doesn't excuse her flippant responses, though. I voted for her in spite of these allegations...the alternative being voting for an obvious lunatic. I know people who voted for the chump only because of this issue. Most of them really regret it. Comey got played, in my opinion- and he even admitted that, later.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 14, 2024, 11:01:46 PM
Quote from: Susan on March 14, 2024, 10:50:22 PMIs there any chance Biden gets re-elected?

Surely if you go by "mainstream media" news and reports, they are saying that Biden will very likely lose badly to Trump in November.

Which is ironic, given that Trumpists and conservatives in general are very fond of attacking "the press" as being somehow Left-leaning most of the time (lol...).
Ain't over 'til it's over, and I'm hoping that the press is whipping up "all those libs" to go and vote against the asshole. As for reviling the press, most chump worshippers have their noses pressed firmly into his ass crack, based on OAN and Faux News.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 15, 2024, 12:07:07 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on March 14, 2024, 10:57:29 PMI know people who voted for the chump only because of this issue.
I bet they were outraged when they found out that seven high-ranking Trump admin people (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/21/their-emails-seven-members-trumps-team-have-used-unofficial-communications-tools/) used unsecured email addresses for official government business.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 15, 2024, 12:38:34 AM
Quote from: Susan on March 14, 2024, 10:50:22 PMIs there any chance Biden gets re-elected?
Of course.  Did the Republicans do well in the midterms?  (the Republicans did gain a few House seats to narrowly gain a majority in the House, which did have some serious consequences very recently under Johnson, but the Dems gained a Senate seat and two governorships) Are the Republicans doing well now (https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-against-donald-trump-ken-buck-1878848)?  Put it this way, do you think Trump is a more potent political force now or in 2020?  Is Biden a more potent political force now or in 2020?  (imho, he didn't make much of a splash at first in the primaries, only cementing himself after almost all the other candidates dropped out and endorsed him.  And in the general election, there was a lot of talk of an "enthusiasm gap" between Biden and Trump)

QuoteSurely if you go by "mainstream media" news and reports, they are saying that Biden will very likely lose badly to Trump in November.
The media loves whatever gets clicks and often times, that's fear.  So fear-inducing stuff gets magnified.

QuoteWhich is ironic, given that Trumpists and conservatives in general are very fond of attacking "the press" as being somehow Left-leaning most of the time (lol...)
They only say that as cover to smear stuff they don't like and to legitimize their attempts to create a "fair and balanced" media environment where facts war with alternative facts and the general public can't tell the difference.  Dismantling/degrading journalism is a great way to weaken a democracy in advance of trying to end that democracy.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 15, 2024, 03:07:37 AM

So I must've missed Katie Britt's kitchen speech (man, the Republicans sure love women in the kitchen) but did she seriously say that the American Colonists overthrew the British Empire?

QuoteNever forget, we're steeped in the blood of patriots who overthrew the most powerful empire in the world.
I have a few notes (imagine me saying this in John Oliver's voice)

1) The American colonists absolutely did not overthrow the British Empire.  They became independent from it.  The British Empire still very much existed for quite a while afterwards.

2) the emotive "steeped in the blood of patriots" is an unnecessary and overly dramatic way of saying that "our ancestors gained independence from the british".  And guess what?  64 other countries did the exact same thing.  Granted, it was an unusually bloody affair for us, but bloody or not, "gained independence" is still the linguistically correct way of saying it.

3)  "Overthrew" is a bit strange and misleading way of putting it.  If I were to say to my mates that Australians overthrew the British they would look at me as if I had gone barking mad and ask me what I meant by that, if I thought the Australians burned down Buckingham Palace and guillotined the King.  And of course, I'd say, no that'd be silly, what I obviously meant by "overthrew" is that Australia was no longer a subject of the Crown and they'd sigh and say I'm a bit daft for phrasing it that way.  It's gained in-de-pen-dence.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on March 15, 2024, 07:47:56 AM
The religious are predisposed to eat up historical falsehoods and mischaracterizations. They are very much like children, but not nearly as cute.

My cohort "Generation Jones, AKA late boomers" has grown-up to be, on average, awful. We are very different now than when we were young and hopeful, but to be honest, the greed was off the charts even back then. I was so scared of being poor. Hardly ever took my vacations. Ten-hour days. 

It seems Gen X are much the same. Cynical of institutions and experts but still that (less committed) belief in Jesus. I remember one guy who was addicted to right-wing radio playing in the lab all day. Talk of immigrants taking benefits and jobs away. His face would turn red, his vessels in his head bulging. He died very young.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on March 15, 2024, 08:27:47 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 15, 2024, 03:07:37 AMSo I must've missed Katie Britt's kitchen speech
I did too, but the part shown in that clip was actually funnier than Scarlett Johansson's parody on SNL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCfLpuLdF8Q
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on March 15, 2024, 08:28:43 AM
Quote from: SGOS on March 15, 2024, 08:27:47 AMI did too, but the part shown in that clip was actually funnier than Scarlett Johansson's part in the SNL parody of the State of the Union.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCfLpuLdF8Q
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 16, 2024, 12:04:28 AM
Quote from: Susan on March 14, 2024, 10:50:22 PMIs there any chance Biden gets re-elected?

Surely if you go by "mainstream media" news and reports, they are saying that Biden will very likely lose badly to Trump in November.

Which is ironic, given that Trumpists and conservatives in general are very fond of attacking "the press" as being somehow Left-leaning most of the time (lol...).

I'd say there's every chance Biden will win again.  Simple logic and math.  If you didn't vote for Trump already, you will not vote for Trump.  Trump garnered every vote he could back in 2020, and still lost.  He is gaining no new voters, even if his voters show up en masse.

Sane America shows up, and the trials after his defeat are going to be a delight. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on March 16, 2024, 07:51:12 AM

Quote from: Susan on March 14, 2024, 10:50:22 PMSurely if you go by "mainstream media" news and reports, they are saying that Biden will very likely lose badly to Trump in November.
Polls are usually right, but not always as 2016 clearly showed. Hell, even Trump was surprised by his win. But since there is no exact correlation between prediction and outcome, our only hope is to suit up for election day and vote. As I understand it, Trump turned out a record number of voters in 2020, and still lost. I assume Biden must have also turned out a record number too, although I have never read that.

Today's political atmosphere is entirely new in the US, What happened in past elections can't be used to predict outcomes anymore. Pollsters talked about correcting their methods after 2016. They openly admitted they got it wrong, and said they were changing their algorithms. However, I have not heard word one about what they changed. I doubt they are any better today than before. Still, I think they are more right than wrong, but don't use so called predictions by polls to keep you at home, or Trump will win for sure.

That would be critical. I don't view this election as Trump vs Biden. I see it as Trump vs Not Trump.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on March 16, 2024, 10:46:43 AM
The only poll I consider valid is the one that takes place in November.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 16, 2024, 01:28:09 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on March 16, 2024, 12:04:28 AMIf you didn't vote for Trump already, you will not vote for Trump.  Trump garnered every vote he could back in 2020, and still lost.  He is gaining no new voters, even if his voters show up en masse.
Yep.  And not only does Trump not have new voters, he lost a lot of voters during the covid crisis he exacerbated.  Plus, a few can't vote due to being felons now.

But what matters is how the base of each party votes.  As we saw in the primaries, a significant minority of Republicans aren't happy with Trump while Biden is pretty much accepted among Democrats - things were the other way around in 2020.  If even a small percentage of Republicans stay home or swing towards Biden, it's game over for Trump.  He needs everything to break his way or he'll lose enough swing states to lose the election and I don't think everything will swing his way like it did in 2016.

Still, we shouldn't get complacent.  As we saw during the 2020 nailbiters, every vote counts.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 18, 2024, 07:44:33 PM
Trump unable to get $464 million bond needed to halt proceedings while he appeals (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-unable-get-bond-464-million-judgment-lawyers-say-rcna143860)

QuoteTheir efforts, including "countless hours negotiating with one of the largest insurance companies in the world," have proven that "obtaining an appeal bond in the full amount" of the judgment "is not possible under the circumstances presented," the filing said.
Trump reportedly said "This damn gecko has had me on hold for hours!  ME!"

QuoteWhile the filing says Trump can't afford the bond, it also argues that the attorney general doesn't have to worry about being able to collect her judgment.

"Defendants' real estate holdings — including iconic properties like 40 Wall Street, Doral Miami, and Mar-a-Lago, — greatly exceed the amount of the judgment.
Good.  Sell 'em.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on March 18, 2024, 08:01:47 PM
You'd think that all those billions of dollars Drumph has bragged about would be plenty to pay such a measly sum. It should be chump change for Chump! 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 18, 2024, 08:58:36 PM
*cough* Debtor's Prison *cough*
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on March 18, 2024, 09:19:51 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 18, 2024, 08:01:47 PMYou'd think that all those billions of dollars Drumph has bragged about would be plenty to pay such a measly sum. It should be chump change for Chump! 🤣
What I thought too. He's a liar. He either lied about all the money he has, or he's lying about all the money he doesn't have. I have no idea how much money he has. I just know he lied about one or the other.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 18, 2024, 10:29:59 PM
It's lies, all the way to the bottom.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 19, 2024, 12:07:25 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 18, 2024, 08:01:47 PMYou'd think that all those billions of dollars Drumph has bragged about would be plenty to pay such a measly sum. It should be chump change for Chump! 🤣
The guy won't even pay simple contractors (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/).  He seems to think you can get everything for free, and judging by some Americans aching to hand this financial genius their pensions, it's a somewhat accurate assessment.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 19, 2024, 10:16:38 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/WauGnQol.jpeg)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on March 19, 2024, 11:15:02 PM
I certainly am much better off than I was 4 years ago! 😃
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 20, 2024, 12:19:34 AM
I've got lots of money I say
It suddenly all went away
Don't know where it went
But it's money well spent
Dig deep as I have fines to pay
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 20, 2024, 01:32:18 AM
Schrodinger's billionaire: broke to the loan man and courts, rich to the investors and public
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 20, 2024, 08:58:18 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 20, 2024, 01:32:18 AMSchrodinger's billionaire: broke to the loan man and courts, rich to the investors and public
I am SO going to propagate this! 😄
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on March 22, 2024, 10:28:29 PM
I see Trump has some DWAC/Truth Social merger 'shell game' going to funnel Chinese (and Russian) money into his bond payments, in an attempt to keep himself out of jail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_World_Acquisition_Corp

DWAC was created with the help of ARC Capital, a Shanghai-based firm specializing in listing Chinese companies on American stock markets that has been a target of U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) investigations for misrepresenting shell corporations.[3][4][5] Some investors were surprised to learn that their investment money was being used to finance a Trump company.[6] In 2021, the DWAC Trump venture was linked with another company, China Yunhong Holdings, based in Wuhan, Hubei,[7][8] until its lead banker who was running the merger promised to sever ties with China in December 2021, stating that Yunhong was to "dissolve and liquidate".[9][10] In February 2022, Reuters reported that the connection between Shanghai-based ARC Capital and Digital World was more extensive than thought, with ARC having offered money to get the SPAC off the ground.[10]
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 22, 2024, 11:24:58 PM
Is there anything big money can't manipulate?

And just like that, Truth Social is worth billions. Kind of like Enron.  Money pulled out of thin air. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on March 24, 2024, 07:30:10 PM
I just found out that people are calling Drumph "Don Poorleone"!
I think it's very appropriate! 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 25, 2024, 01:19:58 PM
Trump only has to pay a 175 million bond.

Absolute
Fucking
Travesty

Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: aitm on March 26, 2024, 06:08:10 PM
The biggest con man is shucking the biggest con book for 50 bucks. Prolly cost him 3.50
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 26, 2024, 07:40:59 PM
A gag order was issued in a criminal trial involving paying off a porn star while the man is hawking bibles. Try to make that up.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on March 26, 2024, 08:11:53 PM
Gag orders don't seem to work very well where Drumph is concerned.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 26, 2024, 08:50:38 PM
Trump wins himself gag order (https://newrepublic.com/post/180155/trump-gag-order-attack-judge-family-hush-money)

This guy can't even follow simple instructions and redcaps want to put him in charge of everything for life.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 26, 2024, 10:05:20 PM
Reading the words this man says is almost worse than hearing them... and people are going to vote for this man for president.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on March 27, 2024, 09:52:32 AM
Quote from: ferdmonger on March 26, 2024, 10:05:20 PMReading the words this man says is almost worse than hearing them... and people are going to vote for this man for president.
Unfortunately, the harsh reality always comes off like elitism. There are clueless Trumpers and the somewhat smarter scumbags who will take advantage of them. Easy to scare and manipulate (Jesus saves, science bad!). They can be made to vote against their best interests with simple quips. More and more wealth going up the ladder.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on March 27, 2024, 10:30:37 AM
I watched a C-Span clip of Trump yesterday after a court appearance. His main thrust was that all of his legal problems are Biden directed election interference, Biden being "absolutely" the "worst president in the history of our country who has turned America into a banana republic."

I was surprised to hear him bring up the issue of election interference, especially after instigating a riot at the Capitol during the final vote count, trying to create fake electoral voters, and being caught on audio trying to get Georgia to jimmy the election results.

And after paying hush money to a porn star, he's selling Bibles to raise money? Saturday Night Live couldn't make this any more ridiculous.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 27, 2024, 10:55:54 AM
Yup. Trump whining about election interference is the biggest irony of all time.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on March 27, 2024, 05:15:26 PM
The truth is stranger than fiction.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 29, 2024, 01:29:28 AM
Just saw a clip of Trump stating "let's make America pray again".

Pray on your own time if you want and leave me out of it. Your religion ain't my government. 

Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 29, 2024, 02:16:12 AM
It's somewhat alarming how often Republican rhetoric boils down to "I can tell you what to do but you cannot tell me what to do".

Religion is just a means to this end with the least natural resistance since it is "wrong" to be critical of religion (an idea fiercely championed by those who derive their income from religious practice)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on March 29, 2024, 07:43:55 AM
Quote from: ferdmonger on March 29, 2024, 01:29:28 AMYour religion ain't my government. 
That would be a good bumper sticker.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 31, 2024, 06:05:10 PM
Fair and Balanced?  truthful people aren't having it (https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/03/our-trump-reporting-upsets-some-readers-but-there-arent-two-sides-to-facts-letter-from-the-editor.html)

QuoteWhy don't our opinion platforms treat Donald Trump and other politicians exactly the same way. Some phrase it differently, asking why we demean the former president's supporters in describing his behavior as monstrous, insurrectionist and authoritarian.

QuoteThe north star here is truth. We tell the truth, even when it offends some of the people who pay us for information.

The truth is that Donald Trump undermined faith in our elections in his false bid to retain the presidency. He sparked an insurrection intended to overthrow our government and keep himself in power. No president in our history has done worse.

This is not subjective.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on March 31, 2024, 07:47:36 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 31, 2024, 06:05:10 PMFair and Balanced?  truthful people aren't having it (https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/03/our-trump-reporting-upsets-some-readers-but-there-arent-two-sides-to-facts-letter-from-the-editor.html)

Very succinct. I could not have written anything better. Yet the question remains. Why do so many American have a perfect view of the inside of their colon?

Their hate of societal change/progress is so strong they prefer to destroy it all. Fucking morons.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 31, 2024, 08:16:09 PM
Quote from: Cassia on March 31, 2024, 07:47:36 PMVery succinct. I could not have written anything better. Yet the question remains. Why do so many American have a perfect view of the inside of their colon?

Their hate of societal change/progress is so strong they prefer to destroy it all. Fucking morons.

I met a guy years ago who wanted to start a business building and selling portholes to those people who suffer from recto-cranial insertion.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on March 31, 2024, 09:14:41 PM
Quote from: Cassia on March 31, 2024, 07:47:36 PMTheir hate of societal change/progress is so strong they prefer to destroy it all. Fucking morons.
Some Republicans will say they got hijacked by Trump and they're often privately very disappointed in him, but publically...well, gotta win seats and not let those demonic demoncrats..idk, drive up the cost of gas and wear tans suits and let the gay agenda destroy america with rainbows or bathrooms or something.  As the former RNC chair put it, "you kind of take one for the whole team"  Bottom line: party loyalty comes first.

But personally, they're reaping exactly what they sowed, and that's not ever going to change until they address the root causes.  They've played fast and loose with facts for as long as I've been alive.  And congrats, now they have a guy who embodies that perfectly.  Do you like what you see?  Same with xenophobia and sexism and greed and dirty dealing and a decidedly Russian way of doing elections.  Don't like it?  Don't vote for it.  Sadly, a lot of them are like Mitch - they'll support it anyway.  In that case, what's the functional difference between emphatic support and reluctant support?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on March 31, 2024, 09:55:37 PM
When stuck in such situations as this, it is best to remember the words of Rex Tillerson... "The man is a fucking moron."

Now that's succinct and to the point.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Susan on April 02, 2024, 09:26:44 PM
Quote from: SGOS on March 16, 2024, 07:51:12 AMI don't view this election as Trump vs Biden. I see it as Trump vs Not Trump.

I agree with that.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on April 02, 2024, 11:07:15 PM
And in other news, Trump is his own worst enemy.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on April 02, 2024, 11:20:30 PM
He's also America's worst enemy!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 02, 2024, 11:22:55 PM
Another one:  former Trump lawyer disbarred (https://www.rawstory.com/john-eastman-law-license/) (another fall guy for the Don)

Another one: Trump involved in new lawsuit (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-02/trump-sues-co-founders-of-truth-social-media-company-over-shares), suing FakeSocial Founders who themselves sued Trump due to Trump allegedly trying to dilute their shares so he can receive a bigger payout when he's finally allowed to sell 6 months from now.

QuoteThe judge said he was "gobsmacked" to learn of Trump's Florida suit — which he filed instead of bringing counterclaims against the two in Glasscock's own courtroom — and would consider possible sanctions against the former president in the Delaware case.
Do it.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on April 03, 2024, 12:32:55 AM
When has Drumph 💩 NOT been under a gag odor?
🤮
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 03, 2024, 02:39:29 PM
Only the best people: two plead guilty to insider trading (https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/investor-company-that-took-trump-media-public-pleads-guilty-insider-trading-2024-04-03/) relating to Trump's media company going public
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on April 03, 2024, 08:49:18 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 03, 2024, 02:39:29 PMOnly the best people: two plead guilty to insider trading (https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/investor-company-that-took-trump-media-public-pleads-guilty-insider-trading-2024-04-03/) relating to Trump's media company going public
I can imagine a future American History class. "Today we will discuss The Gettysburg Address, and Trump's Toilet-Seat Tweets.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 03, 2024, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: Cassia on April 03, 2024, 08:49:18 PMI can imagine a future American History class. "Today we will discuss The Gettysburg Address, and Trump's Toilet-Seat Tweets.
Unfortunately, they're likely to talk about the Civil War, Jim Crow, and then Trump Era semi-open racism.

Trump will likely feature prominently in college curriculum as a cautionary tale in just about any field, from business ethics to international relations to microbiology.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on April 03, 2024, 10:55:06 PM
I read that Drumph had to take back the $175 million bond until he gets the paperwork right! 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 04, 2024, 12:29:50 PM
FCC to vote to restore net neutrality after Trump axed it (https://www.reuters.com/technology/fcc-vote-restore-net-neutrality-rules-reversing-trump-2024-04-02/)

Long time coming.

For lurkers, net neutrality is the idea that ISPs treat data on the network the same and not "intentionally block, slow down, or charge money for specific online content"  Essentially, your ISP shouldn't care if you're playing video games online or facetiming your family or watching risque clown videos - it treats all data equally.  After all, you're paying the ISP for data speeds only, not access to specific parts of the internet.  Scrapping that opens the door for ISPs to pry into that sort of thing, opening the way for among other things - tiered payment schemes for different sites or content, as have happened in countries without net neutrality.

Critics of net neutrality (sometimes real people but infamously, lots of dead people) say it's not necessary yet seem suspiciously eager for radical changes in how ISPs operate, which may adversely affect you.  As examples, wireless companies have been found to throttle data to popular video sites like YouTube and Netflix (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-04/youtube-and-netflix-throttled-by-carriers-research-finds), Sprint throttled Skype (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-08/sprint-is-throttling-microsoft-s-skype-service-study-finds), and the even the friggin' fire department has been throttled (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/verizon-throttled-fire-departments-unlimited-data-during-calif-wildfire/) in the midst of a goddamn wildfire - which had to pay extra to lift throttling (tantamount to extortion during a life-or-death crisis, yet not technically illegal)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: the_antithesis on April 04, 2024, 01:25:01 PM
I though that if we don't have net neutrality, then ISP's should lose their common carrier protections. This was something back in the 80's and 90's when the internet was super new and ISPs made a lot of money off pedophiles. Watch the movie Call Me Lucky to learn more.

But a common carrier deal allows providers of a service to not be responsible for how customers use that service. For example, if you hold your wife's head underwater in the bathtub until she stops moving and then throw a toaster in the tub for good measure, neither the water company nor the electric company are liable. They are common carriers and provide the same services to everyone and have no control over how you use or abuse their services.

Without net neutrality, ISPs are responsible for every single illegal thing their users do on the internet because they demonstrate that they do have control over how customers use their services. So they should be fined into oblivion and the world can be a better place.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on April 04, 2024, 05:27:33 PM
I read that net neutrality might be coming back.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 06, 2024, 12:35:43 PM
Too much catering to nutjobs: Trumper "overserved" (read: wasted) at Trump event (https://www.newsweek.com/lauren-boebert-mocked-over-report-she-was-overserved-gop-event-1887474)

QuoteTrump's security people had to ask the congresswoman to stop trying to pose for pictures with the former president at the December event.
At least she kept her hands to herself this time.  Could you imagine the indignity of some rando slimeball trying to grope you without consent?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on April 06, 2024, 11:59:27 PM
Strange how I knew who you were talking about before I clicked the link. Gracious me woman, you are an elected official.  Then again, so was Donald Trump, so never mind. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 08, 2024, 10:08:43 PM
Trump takeover of RNC not going well (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/08/rnc-trump-takeover-republican-strife)

QuoteDonald Trump's allies installed to run the Republican National Committee have faced a tumultuous first month in charge, buffeted by staffing problems and operational headaches as they attempt to bring the party apparatus under the control of the Trump campaign before the 2024 election.

QuoteThe internal strife at the RNC has prompted the Trump campaign to privately admonish its new leaders in recent weeks. And the move to orchestrate a purge may have partly backfired with far-reaching consequences for the RNC, multiple sources familiar with the matter said.
I'm going to take a wild guess here that those "private" admonishments aren't very private, since I'm reading about them in the paper.

QuoteBut the threats of termination and the rumored loyalty tests – which turned out to be accurate when staffers were asked in job interviews if they thought the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, though there has been no evidence of election fraud – may have been too aggressive.
That's a hell of a loyalty test.  "Do you believe your eyes or Trump?" Wow.

QuoteThe new RNC leadership recently started offering the data team staffers housing within the Trump campaign campus, described informally as "Trump Village"
Low hanging fruit I know, but damn, that village is missing its idiot!

QuoteSome staffers who declined return offers suggested they disliked the notion of living at work, which might also mean living alongside the most hardcore Trump campaign staffers.
No kidding.  More sex offenders per mile than Vatican City.  (I'm joking, of course.  I know Vatican City uses metric)

QuoteRNC staffers have long known the way to answer the question of whether the 2020 election was stolen is to say there were "irregularities", the fact that they were being quizzed made them think the Trump campaign inherently distrusted people from the RNC, and they would always have a target on their backs.
The most flexible spines in the country.  And yeah, they're right.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on April 08, 2024, 11:24:42 PM
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-juan-merchan-hush-money-appeal-lawsuit-6abe221a7cb2ea670eb3ed1a7a134643

And in Donald Trump's addled brain, he's having this thought:

"This can't be happening!  I paid good money to make this go away!  Double jeopardy!" 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 10, 2024, 04:21:48 PM
Swing and a miss: Trump's lawyers subpoena the wrong person (https://abcnews.go.com/US/files-man-tells-trumps-lawyers-after-subpoena-wrong/story?id=109090579)

I gotta tell you guys, I'm not looking forward to this clown mistakenly hitting his tiny hands on the nuke button instead of the diet coke button.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on April 10, 2024, 07:18:54 PM
Well, he is Donald Trump and he's insane, so there is that. I have to shake my head every time I remember that 35% of the population in enthralled with the man.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on April 10, 2024, 08:15:03 PM
Yeah, I'll never understand the love all of those millions of people have for Broke Don.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on April 12, 2024, 07:06:48 PM
Lest we forget, the third delay tactic failed, and the 'hush money' trial begins Monday... or perhaps 'criminal' trial is more appropriate.


How's it feel to look the mirror Donnie and realize the chickens have finally come home to roost.   
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 12, 2024, 08:52:45 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 10, 2024, 08:15:03 PMYeah, I'll never understand the love all of those millions of people have for Broke Don.
Parasocial relationships with reality TV "personalities".  He ran before and basically no one cared.  But social media has changed the game.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on April 12, 2024, 09:52:28 PM
You don't get in the tree-house unless you know the secret password: Denial.

There's nothing left of the republican party.  It's a Trump caricature.     
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 13, 2024, 01:00:22 AM
https://i.imgur.com/WnbKFtO.mp4

Hmmmm...
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 13, 2024, 03:20:07 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 13, 2024, 01:00:22 AMhttps://i.imgur.com/WnbKFtO.mp4

Hmmmm...

Ah.
Cathartic
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on April 13, 2024, 07:19:36 PM
Comparing Drumph with Hitler is unfair. Hitler knew when to shoot himself.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on April 14, 2024, 09:59:18 PM
You know, the thought of Donald having to sit in a court of law under criminal indictment is making me a bit giddy right now.

PS - Just a quick note to Donald and his supporters.  It's not the deep state.  It's not the weaponized DOJ or the corrupt judges.  It's those darn grand juries that keep returning indictments based upon evidence. Deal with it.     

 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on April 14, 2024, 10:27:00 PM
I'm learning the true depth of schadenfreude these days, watching this bitch suffer.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 14, 2024, 11:56:17 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on April 14, 2024, 10:27:00 PMI'm learning the true depth of schadenfreude these days, watching this bitch suffer.
To me, this is like eating crackers.  Nice, but hardly satisfying.  Let me know when he's behind bars before my meal truly begins.  And I've grown quite hungry since 2016.  I'd need at least a dictator to kick the bucket in addition to a dictator wannabe to become truly satiated.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on April 15, 2024, 09:22:36 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 14, 2024, 11:56:17 PMTo me, this is like eating crackers.  Nice, but hardly satisfying.  Let me know when he's behind bars before my meal truly begins.  And I've grown quite hungry since 2016.  I'd need at least a dictator to kick the bucket in addition to a dictator wannabe to become truly satiated.
Point taken, but I expect to never see him behind bars. I am hoping that he pops his clogs in court, though.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on April 15, 2024, 10:45:13 AM
I hope there's plenty of security around the courthouse! I expect Drumph's 💩 fans to try really hard to disrupt the proceedings. I doubt they'll try anything on the first day, but there's no telling with this bunch of loonies.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on April 15, 2024, 10:51:38 AM
I expect Will Scharf, Drumph's 💩 lawyer, to go to prison before Drumph does, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 15, 2024, 11:31:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/xFRdqwyl.png)

For someone with no voice, he's surprisingly noisy.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 16, 2024, 12:49:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5IhDSQj.png)

Trump:  "They hate me!  Rigged!!!1"
Me: "Oh, so they're literate and have a pulse."
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 16, 2024, 09:43:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2hUCVPQ.mp4

Dark Brandon ftw
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 17, 2024, 03:35:16 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/fire-the-legal-team-trumps-got-this-under-control-case-v0-i3345efesxuc1.jpeg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=8a4a435e6958a5850e032d04c688819250f1d4b0)

Smartest criminal ever lol
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 18, 2024, 09:47:51 AM
Dumb AF Don at court watching tweets mocking him (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-trial-new-york-memes-prospective-jurors-1235005658/)

QuoteOne potential juror ruled out on Tuesday was a man who recently shared an AI-generated video of Trump saying "I'm dumb as fuck," according to reporter Josh Kovensky of Talking Points Memo. The man had evidently tried to conceal his opinion of Trump during earlier questioning, per The New York Times, and protested that the video was only something he "reposted," but Judge Juan Merchan dismissed him.

QuoteSome of the internet material brought before the court sparked debates as to whether it actually proved bias. Trump lawyer Todd Blanche argued that a video of a New York street party around the time of the 2020 election shared on Facebook by a prospective juror obviously showed a celebration of Trump's loss to Joe Biden. The woman claimed it was a spontaneous gathering. Trump reportedly muttered something in her direction and drew a warning from Merchan against intimidation tactics.
One enduring myth encouraged on the right is that right-wing figures and ideology are well-liked by the "silent majority".  This is of course far from the truth.  Outside of the cult, these people are widely regarded with much-deserved disdain.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 18, 2024, 08:24:50 PM
Trump demands funds from Republican campaigns that use his likeness (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/17/trump-campaign-fundraising-five-percent-00152830)

Party over country, but Trump uber alles.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on April 19, 2024, 05:43:25 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 18, 2024, 08:24:50 PMTrump demands funds from Republican campaigns that use his likeness (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/17/trump-campaign-fundraising-five-percent-00152830)
My disgust for this man overrides his pathetic self interests. I'd be cut from jury selection in the first round.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on April 19, 2024, 05:58:32 AM
Trump should contact Nike who apparently has offered Caitlin Clark an 8 figure contract to endorse their shoes. Although, good luck with Nike, since Trump is already selling his own line of shoes (and Bibles), so we can probably rule out Simon and Schuster too.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 19, 2024, 03:58:37 PM
Quote from: SGOS on April 19, 2024, 05:43:25 AMMy disgust for this man overrides his pathetic self interests. I'd be cut from jury selection in the first round.

I think i could fullfill the role without bias.
Do suspect that i'd still find him guilty in the end. But i would do so only if the evidence, which is most assuredly there, were there.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on April 19, 2024, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 19, 2024, 03:58:37 PMI think i could fullfill the role without bias.
Do suspect that i'd still find him guilty in the end. But i would do so only if the evidence, which is most assuredly there, were there.
I agree, it's about credible evidence, not about the fact that I think he's a detestable person. But just saying that during jury selection would likely be the integrity that would cause the Trump lawyers to send you home. Just saying you could only be swayed by credible evidence might be enough to get you out of jury duty.

While I'm on it; Jury trials are like debates. Winning does not require proofs or truths. Misdirection as well as playing to the listeners biases, emotions, and predispositions are all on the table. You and I are not who Trump's team is looking for.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Susan on April 22, 2024, 05:50:07 PM
Hello,

I know no one cares, but I actually got some replies to one of my last posts (I think the thread was this one) which I couldn't/didn't respond to. Sorry about that.

Not that there was much to reply to, at least.

Nevertheless, RL got in the way, again...
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on April 22, 2024, 08:31:52 PM
A man named David Pecker
Owned him a Black and Decker
It ground down bad news
Voters had no clues
Stormy? No one could check her.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on April 22, 2024, 09:32:27 PM
Too bad Pecker's first name isn't Peter! 🤣

Peter Pecker picked a peck of pickled peppers... 🤪
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on April 22, 2024, 10:41:12 PM
David Pecker protected Donald's pecker. What a headline. 

Donald's defense wants you to believe that Cohen cannot be trusted. He worked for Donald for years, and was obviously trustworthy. When did he become untrustworthy?  When he turned against Trump.

"Cohen can't be trusted!  He testified against my client!"

Is this really the best defense?

 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on April 23, 2024, 08:15:29 AM
The direction of these posts today was inevitable.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on April 23, 2024, 08:20:34 AM
I was following the minute by minute written updates in the New York Times, and I kept thinking, "Is this guy's name really Pecker?" And then I would think, "Why doesn't he change it?" It was hard to concentrate on the actual content of the comments.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on April 23, 2024, 08:38:00 AM
NYT
QuoteJustice Juan M. Merchan will hear arguments over whether the former president violated his gag order before The National Enquirer's former publisher takes the stand.
As far as I'm concerned, inciting your constituents to violence or to riot at the Capitol is tantamount to yelling, "FIRE," in a crowded theater. Especially, when so many constituents are such wack-a-doodles. But still, they are going to hear arguments over this. Seems like a waste of time to me.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on April 23, 2024, 10:29:26 AM
Don Snoreleone is a master of stochastic terrorism.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on April 24, 2024, 07:16:05 PM
Does anyone know why 10 counts of obstruction of justice were allowed to wither on the vine after Mueller stated that former presidents when out of office can be prosecuted for crimes? 

I wish I knew, and this prick is still getting away with this shit.   
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 25, 2024, 05:02:41 PM
Federal judge upholds verdict in E. Jean Carroll case and denies Trump's motion for a new trial (https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/25/politics/federal-judge-upholds-e-jean-carroll-verdict/index.html)

Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 25, 2024, 11:07:26 PM
Net neutrality restored (https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/fcc-votes-bring-back-obama-era-net-neutrality-rules-repealed-trump-rcna149415)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 26, 2024, 04:45:47 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 25, 2024, 05:02:41 PMFederal judge upholds verdict in E. Jean Carroll case and denies Trump's motion for a new trial (https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/25/politics/federal-judge-upholds-e-jean-carroll-verdict/index.html)


I am not a legal-mastermind.

Is this just: he can't do the trial over? Or is it that he can't appeal the case.

I'm hoping for the latter, cause i imagine the former being impossible anyway.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on April 26, 2024, 08:00:44 PM
Joe Biden today said he will debate Trump. Yeah, let's have good old-fashioned honorable debate with the only man in over 200 years to fail to peacefully transfer power. Biden previously stated that a debate would depend on Trump's "behavior".  Oh please. It's a bit late in the game to modify Trump's behavior.

"I won't debate the first candidate in history who fails to acknowledge the will of the voters" should have been his response.

Trump will please his base by vomiting insults and miscellaneous meaningless words at the camera, and Fox Spews will faithfully report on how Trump owned the stage and took Biden to the woodshed. Don't take this bait.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on April 26, 2024, 08:45:32 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on April 26, 2024, 08:00:44 PMBiden previously stated that a debate would depend on Trump's "behavior".
Last debate, the debate sponsor threatened to turn off Trump's mike when Biden was talking, but I'm sure that was all for publicity. Turn off his mike and miss Trumps refusal to comply with debate rules? Come on. No one watched that debate for thoughtful presentations. Let's face it. You can't look away when Trump has the floor, except when you have to vomit.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on April 26, 2024, 09:01:40 PM
Trump is a caricature of a caricature at this point.  Can you imagine a debate?

(Good thing I'm not the moderator.)

"Mr. Trump. You lost over 60 court cases.  Chris Krebs stated the election was secure. Bill Barr stated what you're peddling is bullshit. Republican secretaries of state have certified the results. Multiple hand recounts and audits confirmed a Biden win.  With this in mind, please tell the voters, specifically why you feel the election was stolen."

"Because it was rigged.  Obviously.  Many people are saying it was rigged.  Bigly! Grown men with tears in their eyes telling me how rigged it was."

I can't even handle this man allowed a national audience to spew his crap.   



Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 27, 2024, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on April 26, 2024, 09:01:40 PMI can't even handle this man allowed a national audience to spew his crap.
Lots of people confuse aggression with strength, wealth with know-how, and narrow-mindedness with "having strong beliefs"
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on April 27, 2024, 05:03:55 PM
The crazier he acts, the more the magats cheer.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 28, 2024, 06:29:48 PM
Trump's stolen classified document stash was readily accessible for anyone wandering by (https://abcnews.go.com/US/coat-hanger-unlock-mar-lago-storage-room-trump/story?id=109716197) - a coathanger or "very tiny screwdriver" would get you access to who knows what
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on April 29, 2024, 07:42:01 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/HfD4j5ml.jpeg)

Checks and balances on Monday, complete immunity on Tuesday, coup on Wednesday, pro-coup on Thursday
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on April 29, 2024, 11:00:09 PM
How do the Trumpian members of this SCOTUS even look at themselves in the mirror? Such a shameful bunch of assholes. No sense of US history or the key principles that the nation was founded upon or how they are gonna go down in history as a kangaroo court.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on April 29, 2024, 11:17:06 PM
The GOP doesn't care about governing, they only want to rule.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on May 01, 2024, 05:53:31 PM
One of Drumph's law firms doesn't want to represent him anymore! 🤣
Can't blame them, they don't want to end up in prison instead of Don Snoreleone. 😴
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 01, 2024, 08:00:10 PM
All one has to do is listen to interviews by Jordan Klepper and others to understand MAGA's are not to be reasoned with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR_BG3Ksr9c 

Logic didn't get them into their position, and trying to use logic or facts to get them out of it just ain't gonna work.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 01, 2024, 09:36:06 PM
"I just want to find 11,780 votes."
"If you don't fight like hell you won't have a country anymore."
"Be there. Will be wild!"
"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution."

Quotes concerning the Jan 6 insurrection. The comments of an unwell man that cannot be anywhere near the levers of power again.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 01, 2024, 09:58:17 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on May 01, 2024, 09:36:06 PM"I just want to find 11,780 votes."
"If you don't fight like hell you won't have a country anymore."
"Be there. Will be wild!"
"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution."

Quotes concerning the Jan 6 insurrection. The comments of an unwell man that cannot be anywhere near the levers of power again.
You say "cannot", but I say, "Should not". It's absolutely disgusting how many people in the US voted for this sorry specimen of "humanity"...twice.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 01, 2024, 10:24:55 PM
'Cannot' is empirically correct. 'Should not' is a voting issue. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 01, 2024, 10:38:02 PM
More amazing to me is that entire states are going to vote for this charlatan for president.  Wyoming tossed LiZ Cheney to the curb because of Donald Trump. A republican's republican thrown under the bus.

I'd ask how the cult feels, but that would be redundant.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on May 02, 2024, 08:19:05 AM
Quote from: ferdmonger on May 01, 2024, 10:38:02 PMMore amazing to me is that entire states are going to vote for this charlatan for president.  Wyoming tossed LiZ Cheney to the curb because of Donald Trump. A republican's republican thrown under the bus.
I don't know if the Republican Party has a limit to how radical they can get before it starts to hurt them. They passed that limit 8 years ago, and are getting worse.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on May 02, 2024, 10:26:37 AM
I thought they'd passed that limit with G. W. Bush, but now I'm thinking that no such limit exists.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 03, 2024, 09:25:20 PM
Merchan was golden in court today in an 'in your face' rebuke of his statements about not being able to testify.  Donald, please note that you are in a court of law, and not a campaign stop.  Unfortunately, Fox viewers will only see Trump's statement but will not see Merchan's humiliation of Trump.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on May 04, 2024, 04:37:19 AM
I wonder if playing the victim card will be as effective as playing the bully card.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on May 10, 2024, 09:50:02 PM
In Trump news, Daniels testified and Trump predictably acted like a toddler (https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-hush-money-stormy-daniels-d8be160e53c8050bf788d7772f483a64):

QuoteTrump scowled and shook his head through much of Daniels' description, including how she found him sitting on the hotel bed in his underwear after she returned from the bathroom and that he did not use a condom. The judge told Trump's lawyers on Tuesday that he could hear him "cursing audibly."

QuoteNecheles suggested that her work in porn meant her story about being shocked and frightened by Trump's alleged sexual advances was not believable.

"You've acted and had sex in over 200 porn movies, right?" Necheles asked. "And there are naked men and women having sex, including yourself, in those movies, right?"

Necheles continued, "But according to you, seeing a man sitting on a bed in a T-shirt and boxers was so upsetting that you got lightheaded."

The experience with Trump was different from porn for a number of reasons, Daniels explained, including the fact that Trump was more than twice her age and larger than she and that she was not expecting to find him undressed when she emerged from the bathroom.

"I came out of the bathroom and saw an older man in his underwear that I wasn't expecting to see there," she said.
What a compelling argument!  Oooh, let me try one!

"Mr Robert Downey Junior, it says here that you've acted in a bunch of movies, including some where you wear a suit of power armor and fight space aliens.  Yet when real-life Martians attacked the White House while chanting 'ack ack ack', you were 'scared' and 'panicked' as fellow Americans were instantly vaporized by their plasma weapons right before your eyes.  Why, I find that hard to believe, you're always very courageous in your movies.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 10, 2024, 10:59:51 PM
Aww, c'mon! All he had to do was grab her by the pussy, and it would have been just fine! :)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 13, 2024, 09:16:25 PM
This, in a nutshell, is republicans and Trump sycophants testifying against republicans... and Trump.  Good luck Donnie.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 29, 2024, 10:20:45 PM
We wait with anticipation to see if Donald is in trouble in NY.  This is what we wait on for after years of waiting for any semblance of justice.  Ten counts of obstruction in the Mueller report ignored. Why was this man not prosecuted. My blood still boils.

"I just need you to find 11,780 votes."

That it takes three years to prosecute a blatant crime is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on May 29, 2024, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on May 29, 2024, 10:20:45 PMWe wait with anticipation to see if Donald is in trouble in NY.  This is what we wait on for after years of waiting for any semblance of justice.  Ten counts of obstruction in the Mueller report ignored. Why was this man not prosecuted. My blood still boils.

"I just need you to find 11,780 votes."

That it takes three years to prosecute a blatant crime is ridiculous.
Compares himself to mamma Theresa. If we use Hitchens' account in "The Missionary Position" he might be on to something.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 29, 2024, 10:55:12 PM
Mother Theresa's persona is not what the general public thinks it is. In actuality, the chump isn't all that different from her.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on May 30, 2024, 06:27:26 PM
At twenty pasr midnight, here in belgium it is on my birthday: i find that trump is found guilty on all counts in his first trial.

Pretty darn good start to a birthday.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on May 30, 2024, 07:32:27 PM
Happy birthday Mr. Obvious! I would be happy with the verdict, but I don't yet know whether he's going to prison or if he'll manage to skate somehow. I'm sure he'll appeal, but I hope he'll be incarcerated while he waits to find out what his fate will be.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 30, 2024, 07:49:16 PM
I'm seeing where legal scholars are weighing in and calling this a low-level crime that might only call for probation or house arrest. I know that I'd've been perp-walked out and put in a cell with a bunch of crack-heads, had I done what this asshole did. That imbecile Cannon is slow-walking the classified materials trial to the point where the whole shebang is going to disappear down a rathole. If I had compromised that sort of information, I'd've been so deep in a hole that I might as well have learned to speak Chinese. 😡
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on May 30, 2024, 08:18:58 PM
Me today:


It's good to see recent successes in both fronts of the war.  It brings me joy when dictators suffer calamity.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on May 30, 2024, 09:15:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZI8TTUb.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5uyQuH3.png)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on May 30, 2024, 10:28:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/XID3tDe.png)

Such a crazy coincidence.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on May 31, 2024, 12:18:13 AM
Drumpf is goin' down, just like he went down on Putin!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on May 31, 2024, 12:22:02 AM
All the Republicans lawmakers calling on Trump to drop out after his felony convictions (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republican-lawmakers-donald-trump-guilty-verdict-resign_n_6658fafde4b08f9fa13ff7aa)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on May 31, 2024, 09:15:45 AM
Talk about a unifying event for every rightwingnut in a red hat. Confirms everything they believe.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 31, 2024, 12:12:44 PM
After the verdict this man called the trial a sham, hoax, witch hunt and disgraceful. Oh my, if only our legal system would have afforded the man a chance to take the stand and testify in his own defense and put a stop to all this needless prosecution. /S
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on May 31, 2024, 12:16:01 PM
Quote from: Cassia on May 31, 2024, 09:15:45 AMTalk about a unifying event for every rightwingnut in a red hat. Confirms everything they believe.
Either they lose and claim persecution and "unfair" whatever or win and do literally whatever they want, law be damned.  I'd much rather deal with their kvetching than their goosestepping.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on May 31, 2024, 01:51:37 PM
I have a red hat, but it has a T-rex on it instead of MAGA. 🦖
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on May 31, 2024, 02:08:29 PM
Trump supporters call for violence when things don't go their way (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-supporters-call-riots-violent-retribution-after-verdict-2024-05-31/)

The "Law and Order" people showing their true colors once again.  I'm sick of tiptoeing around the fragile feelings of these lunatics.  If they try to do something stupid and illegal, they should absolutely be locked up.  They should thank their lucky starts that their orange messiah isn't in prison right now.  If anybody else did half the stuff he did, the judge would throw the book at them.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on May 31, 2024, 03:14:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/kUNf0Wtl.jpeg)

Guess which newspaper is right-wing.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on May 31, 2024, 03:33:12 PM
The right be on the left
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 31, 2024, 04:02:55 PM
I wouldn't use the New York Post to wipe my ass.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on May 31, 2024, 04:21:32 PM
I wouldn't line a birdcage with the NY Post!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 31, 2024, 07:06:27 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on May 31, 2024, 04:21:32 PMI wouldn't line a birdcage with the NY Post!

I would.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 31, 2024, 07:21:51 PM
Interviews with 'the man on the street' reveal the level of Trumpers. 

'Well, they say a crime was committed, but it's not much of a crime in my book.'

34 felonies?  A fraudulent university and charity, criminal sexual assault? Don't care.  Tell me again this isn't a cult. It is absurd that anyone actually supports this man for president.

Mike Johnson wants to tell you that this is a political trial and not a legal trial. Just a quick note to Mr. Johnson... this started with a grand jury.  Then there were defense attorneys, a judge, and jurors.  Mikey... this was a legal proceeding.  Get over it. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 31, 2024, 07:27:17 PM
And I'm really, really sick of the 'banana republic' crap.  In actual banana republics, leaders have no fear whatever of prosecution.  Completely ass backwards, but a sound bite is a sound bite I guess, and asking Trumpers for any introspection is a bridge too far.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 31, 2024, 08:14:11 PM
If the chump does get re-elected, we will see what a "banana republic" really looks like. It's all projection and/or fantasy with his cult followers.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 31, 2024, 09:04:22 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 31, 2024, 08:14:11 PMIf the chump does get re-elected, we will see what a "banana republic" really looks like. It's all projection and/or fantasy with his cult followers.

The entire platform is 'retribution'.  It's the only platform needed with MAGAs.   
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on May 31, 2024, 09:32:41 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on May 31, 2024, 09:04:22 PMThe entire platform is 'retribution'.  It's the only platform needed with MAGAs.   

My take. Union busting and off-shoring of production led to loss of jobs among the lesser-educated. It used to be that there was a blue-collar living wage. Corporate greed killed that. Now, all those disenfranchised people are understandably angry, and the chump whips the anger, all the while working on making those people's situations worse.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on May 31, 2024, 10:15:30 PM
Man, Lawrence O'Donnell was on fire tonight.  Reading 34 count of 'guilty'.  Ouch.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on May 31, 2024, 11:32:39 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on May 31, 2024, 09:32:41 PMMy take. Union busting and off-shoring of production led to loss of jobs among the lesser-educated. It used to be that there was a blue-collar living wage. Corporate greed killed that. Now, all those disenfranchised people are understandably angry, and the chump whips the anger, all the while working on making those people's situations worse.
This is really horrible, because they actually do have legitimate grievances.  But falling for fake news and con men (people who say covid is a hoax while getting their own jab) and sucking up to oligarch-billionaires (who do they think killed their unions, kept wages stagnant while inflating CEO pay, and shipped jobs overseas?) is such an enormously bad take that it arouses more pity and frustration than anger.

Unfortunately, there's no real way of really getting through to them anymore.  They're just going to have to be outvoted by people with more class solidarity and empathy for fellow Americans.  Decent people still exist and in large numbers - they simply have to vote.  And unfortunately, this frustrated (and frustrating) class of Americans will either die mad that they were helped in some small way or die miserable in a "traditional" conservative backwater without ever putting two and two together.  More's the pity.

edit - this upsets me more than most because I'm somewhat partial to "populism" (the idea that regular people should have more say in politics and political leaders should devote more attention to their needs, rather than the needs of people who own mansions) and there's theoretically a lot of common ground between the American left and right in this, but you start talking details = like a $15 minimum wage - and these people lose their top.  *sigh*  Also, I'm not super thrilled about populism getting dragged through the mud by people like Trump.  I got some flak in 2020 from Democrats who didn't like "populist demagogues" like Trump and Sanders, as if the two were batting on the same team or something.  Elites love Trump not only for the support he gives them, but the support he takes away from people who would actually help the working class.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on June 01, 2024, 08:04:55 AM
Well-put Hydra. Trying demographics is hard to deal with and politicians are the obvious target. A huge, aging generation with plenty of wealthy that make up a very divisive "financial class" have thrown their cohorts under the bus while getting them to blame big government, immigrants and lazy millennials.

"There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution."
― John Adams, The works of John Adams,: Second President of the United States
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on June 01, 2024, 09:33:53 AM
O tempore, O mores.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on June 04, 2024, 12:42:59 AM
The late shows were especially good tonight!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on June 05, 2024, 08:02:29 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/05/politics/georgia-trump-fani-willis-trial-delay/index.html

Then again, maybe Donald is in no trouble at all. 

"I just need you to find 11,780 votes" has morphed into "But the prosecutor was having an affair while trying to prosecute the former president!"

Shenanigans continue and the goal posts moved again. This is sickening.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on June 05, 2024, 08:57:04 PM
Sickening, indeed. And I'll wager that "judge" Cannon is fellating the chump in her sleep...or, maybe she's getting visits from his "connections".
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on June 05, 2024, 09:41:17 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on June 05, 2024, 08:02:29 PMhttps://www.cnn.com/2024/06/05/politics/georgia-trump-fani-willis-trial-delay/index.html

Then again, maybe Donald is in no trouble at all. 

"I just need you to find 11,780 votes" has morphed into "But the prosecutor was having an affair while trying to prosecute the former president!"

Shenanigans continue and the goal posts moved again. This is sickening.
🤮
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on June 05, 2024, 09:42:34 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on June 05, 2024, 08:57:04 PMSickening, indeed. And I'll wager that "judge" Cannon is fellating the chump in her sleep...or, maybe she's getting visits from his "connections".
He probably grabbed her by the pussy cat...
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on June 06, 2024, 12:36:02 AM
I think Drumpf's brain-eating worm done starved to death.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on June 07, 2024, 06:41:10 PM
It's possible that the worm starved, but most likely is that the worm ate some nasty infected gangreneous-Trumpus brain tissue, and is now infected for life.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on June 15, 2024, 11:46:55 AM
Steve Bannon:  Jail?  Me??  But...but...I have a podcast... (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/trump-adviser-stephen-bannon-cites-podcast-duties-as-reason-he-should-not-be-required-to-report-to-prison)

And one of the very few "jobs" that could actually be done from prison.  But normal prisoners rarely get much time for hobbies or contact with the outside world, let alone both at the same time.  But in our two-tiered justice and penal system, he'll likely enjoy a wide range of privileges that normal prisoners don't enjoy.  Privileged from start to finish.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on June 15, 2024, 12:32:27 PM
And he'll claim he's being persecuted! 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on June 16, 2024, 07:58:00 PM
Of course he will.  It's the MAGA way. "Victory or death!"  No sugar-coating this crap anymore.   
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on June 16, 2024, 08:45:25 PM
Get thee to the cross bar hotel, Stevie!
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on June 16, 2024, 08:52:06 PM
I think Farty Five got that line "never surrender" from the movie Galaxy Quest! 🤣
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on July 03, 2024, 08:45:32 PM
I take it all back. Donald Trump is in no trouble at all.  The Supreme Court has decided. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on July 03, 2024, 08:56:46 PM
Roberts accused his liberal cohorts that they were using outlandish hyperbole in their dissent. 

On 60 Minutes Trump called for shooting peaceful protestors in Layfaette Square.

All legal under the new ruling.  Welcome to the new America, where presidents can do any damn thing they pleae.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on July 03, 2024, 09:06:56 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on July 03, 2024, 08:45:32 PMI take it all back. Donald Trump is in no trouble at all.  The Supreme Court has decided. 
Yeah, so much for the rule of law.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on July 03, 2024, 09:40:59 PM
It's taken years... YEARS to decide if strong-arming the the Georgia Secretary of State to find 11,780 votes is against the law. This shit needs to stop yesterday. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on July 03, 2024, 10:02:55 PM
Well, then. Biden should have the chump and all the Nazi-leaning SCOTUS justices capped. Sad part is, he'd be held accountable (as he should) by the rest of the SCOTUS and the new-hires.
#DemocratsisLosers
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Cassia on July 03, 2024, 10:13:20 PM
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on July 03, 2024, 10:20:21 PM
Not to mention that his sentencing for 34 felonies is now delayed for two months owing to the Supreme Court decision. Gosh, just maybe something... anything will no longer be allowable as evidence in blatant abuse of power.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on July 05, 2024, 10:20:49 PM
I wonder if the convicted felon slept in court so that his sickophants wouldn't think he was "woke." 🤔
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on July 05, 2024, 10:35:22 PM
Trump was reportedly a prolific client of Epstein, even being involved in sex acts with minors - which is the legal definition of statutory rape.  Also, pedophilia.

Biden is reportedly cutting some of his events at night to allow him to get more sleep and help fight fatigue.

Guess which story the media latched onto for scornful derision.  I swear, if Biden were to use brown mustard or wear a tan suit, it'd be a major scandal, but if Trump were to stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot people, Tucker would talk about pandas instead.

Billionaires control the media.  Don't let them also control the narrative.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on July 05, 2024, 11:07:32 PM
One candidate promises "business as usual", improved infrastructure, etc...and has delivered.
The other candidate talks about arresting and jailing his "enemies", and tearing down the government. How is this even a competition!? Dafuq is wrong with the US?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on July 05, 2024, 11:32:44 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on July 05, 2024, 11:07:32 PMOne candidate promises "business as usual", improved infrastructure, etc...and has delivered.
The other candidate talks about arresting and jailing his "enemies", and tearing down the government. How is this even a competition!? Dafuq is wrong with the US?

I don't know.  Ask republicans. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on July 06, 2024, 12:55:54 AM
The Republicans seem to be mostly Russian assets.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on July 06, 2024, 06:32:38 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 06, 2024, 12:55:54 AMThe Republicans seem to be mostly Russian assets.
Definitely a "buy one, get the rest free" deal.  And they say that purchasing power is less in the US than Russia.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on July 06, 2024, 11:21:47 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bAoagzDl.png)

Hmmm...really thinly-veiled language there.  I might never crack the code.

(https://i.imgur.com/WgjOvBal.png)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Sargon The Grape on July 07, 2024, 01:17:28 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on July 05, 2024, 10:35:22 PMTrump was reportedly a prolific client of Epstein, even being involved in sex acts with minors - which is the legal definition of statutory rape.  Also, pedophilia.

Biden is reportedly cutting some of his events at night to allow him to get more sleep and help fight fatigue.

Guess which story the media latched onto for scornful derision.  I swear, if Biden were to use brown mustard or wear a tan suit, it'd be a major scandal, but if Trump were to stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot people, Tucker would talk about pandas instead.

Billionaires control the media.  Don't let them also control the narrative.
Most of the powers that be within the media were clients of Epstein at some point. They're never going to go after Trump for that, no matter how much they dislike him.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Unbeliever on July 15, 2024, 11:05:29 AM
Well, I see that Cannon has dismissed the documents case against the convicted felon. Who could've seen that coming?
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on July 15, 2024, 11:07:50 AM
Disgusting. He was playing around with and hiding that after he was out of office. Stupid judge that he appointed. Man does this smell.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 15, 2024, 02:46:13 PM
They can appointment jack smith and refile the case in d.c.
This may be a good thing in the long run.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on July 15, 2024, 07:32:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/duJDyfil.jpeg)

Money and fame buys power, power buys unlimited power
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Hydra009 on August 03, 2024, 09:07:27 PM
Fake elector agrees to flip (https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/arizona/arizona-ag-kris-mayes-says-defendant-fake-electors-case-has-agreed-to-flip/75-39d75a17-b07d-4393-9de4-2b156ac96963)
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on August 09, 2024, 11:44:30 PM
Trump at least theoretically agrees to debate Kamala Harris on Sept 10.  Any bets she brings up his sentencing date scheduled for Sept 18?  She's gonna zing him with that one when the time is right.  (Former prosecutor and all that.)

I don't think for a minute she's going to allow Trump to get away with the 'Gish Gallop'.  I predict she's going to call out his lies early and often in real time and leave him befuddled and angry. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: SGOS on August 10, 2024, 07:44:55 AM
Quote from: ferdmonger on August 09, 2024, 11:44:30 PMI don't think for a minute she's going to allow Trump to get away with the 'Gish Gallop'.  I predict she's going to call out his lies early and often in real time and leave him befuddled and angry. 
She has to in the ABC format for the debate, where the moderators are not going to do it. It might be better if the fact checking is done by the debaters anyway. Then we don't have to wait until a week later when a credible newspaper points out the false statements. By that time, the lies and conspiracies have become permanent "facts" throughout the cult.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on August 12, 2024, 08:46:51 PM
Oops!  Donald is trailing in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan.  Looking forward to his sentencing in September for 34 felonies to further erode his 'support'. 

Donnie is at the helm of the Presidential Titanic steering it straight toward the iceberg.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on August 17, 2024, 10:25:45 PM
Just thinking that it takes a lot of balls to call someone 'Crooked Joe' coming from a man due to be sentenced for 34 felonies in September. Yeah, he brought 'Crooked Joe' up at his last rally.

Just wow.  I guess it's true.  When you're in the cult, you don't know you're in the cult. 
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: Dark Lightning on August 17, 2024, 10:54:48 PM
Quote from: ferdmonger on August 17, 2024, 10:25:45 PMJust thinking that it takes a lot of balls to call someone 'Crooked Joe' coming from a man due to be sentenced for 34 felonies in September. Yeah, he brought 'Crooked Joe' up at his last rally.

Just wow.  I guess it's true.  When you're in the cult, you don't know you're in the cult. 

The chump is just crazy, full stop. Not different from any evangelical tent preachers who are in the US' past. And it's appalling how many people are enthralled by them, and him, still.
Cult? I went up to the local LOWE's store to pick up some construction supplies. There were people congregating in the mall parking lot next over, with lifted trucks and US flags (and those "thin red" and "thin blue" lines) all over. I support the police and firefighters, but I do it through taxes, as opposed to some sort of rabid waving of those flags, whilst driving around people's neighborhoods, and disrupting traffic.
Title: Re: Donald is in trouble
Post by: ferdmonger on August 18, 2024, 12:42:28 AM
It was terrible to read that the campaign of Donald Trump may have been hacked, revealing details of the vetting of Vice Presidential candidate JD Vance.  So far as I'm aware, Donald Trump has already been vetted, which includes:  January 6th insurrection, charity fraud, criminal sexual conduct, and 34 felonies.  I'm wondering what could possibly be so unfavorable in the history of JD Vance that it would suddenly cast Donald Trump in an unfavorable light.  Am I missing something?