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Mad Max: Oh No! Not again.

Started by SGOS, May 13, 2015, 09:38:47 PM

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SGOS

The coming attractions show some creative ways people can elevate a demolition derby to an art form.  I think it's the area of modern art referred to as non-objective (without purpose, just color and form that depicts nothing at all).  This does not mean it cannot be enjoyed by any means.  The original was combination of bizarre lunacy that gave you a feeling that you could leave reality, turn your mind over to Hollywood, go temporarily insane, and that everything would still be all right after you left the theater.

This one looks like it takes pointless lunacy to the next level.  I watched the coming attractions, and it filled me with intense feelings of "OMG!  Holy shit!  This is insane!"  And I'm up for it.  I don't know why.  Knowing why is not the point.  If you have to ask yourself why you would see this film, you are clearly missing the boat. 

I hesitate to call this a post apocalyptic movie.  It's too strange.  Why would a post apocalyptic society act this way?  But you shouldn't think about it.  If you go to this movie, for God Sakes don't think.  That will ruin everything.  Just be there.

stromboli

Back after Road Warrior I thought up a concept story of a very similar vein taking place in the U.S.. After thinking it through, I realized several things:

Ethanol/alcohol fuels would likely be adapted in the place of gasoline, rendering the need for "juice" less likely over time. Moving a mass of man and equipment over any distance is a logistic mess, to say the least. Keeping a group of half psychotic, otherwise unproductive people together, fed, acting in any type of coordinated effort under one leader is a bit of a stretch. One charismatic leader could do it, but keeping them from killing each other, stealing women, whatever would be a constant nightmare.

The closest analogy I could come up with is plains native tribes migrating along after buffalo herds, or a group like the Mormons outlawed and forced to move a long way away. In either case the participants are a cohesive and like minded group with useful skills and can contribute to the overall effort. Mad Max? Not so much. But that is just me being logical.

AllPurposeAtheist

Sorry folks..I'm just no longer a big fan of the survivalist/tea party /chuck Norris nonsensical bullshit idea that all we need is the end of civilization as we know it to have a better world.. Oh yeah..Toss in that dirtball Gibson and the apocalyptic world sounds just peaches, eh? Before I go there I'd rather shit my pants and ride a bicycle right into ground zero..
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stromboli

Just about any apocalyptic scenario I can think of would be far different than what Hollywood, et al, portrays. There are obviously scenarios where anarchy rules, but eventually common sense and the need for mutual survival would lead ultimately to reestablishment of order.

Hydra009

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Quote from: stromboli on May 13, 2015, 11:41:24 PM
Just about any apocalyptic scenario I can think of would be far different than what Hollywood, et al, portrays. There are obviously scenarios where anarchy rules, but eventually common sense and the need for mutual survival would lead ultimately to reestablishment of order.
Yep.  And a lot of action movies institute an anarchy rules (or at least, localized anarchy rules) scenario because otherwise, the police and/or military would sort it all out, leaving the protagonist with nothing to do.

drunkenshoe

I LOVED Mad Max movies very much as a kid. Everyone loves that movie here, and probably almost everywhere. I hope, this is not going to ruin all that.  :sad2:
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Shiranu

Showing my age here, but it looks interesting to me simply because it reminds me of the Borderland's series (which of course was based on Mad Max, and not the other way around).
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drunkenshoe

Well, I have seen the movies in Beta format. :lol: Not sure about the date. Beta came here around early 80s. Probably, I have seen them around 8 or 9? That and a lot of American movies had a lot of effect on me, how I think, how I evolved, besides the colourful passive entertaining value.

There wasn't anything much in the TV here. Only government approved PG stuff; classical American series, soaps, sports. Little House on the Prairie, Roots, The Blue and Gray, Figutive, Bewitched, Dallas, Love Boat, Moonlighting...kind of stuff, then shows like Cosby, Alf, Sabrina and all other 80s, 90s youth series and sit coms. We didn't have 'private' channels then. So everything we watched as a kid was American in beta or then in VHS in subtitles. When we started to secondary school dad got us sattelite which was European and of course tuned into British. BBC documentaries, cartoons.  Most people lived with the idea that all the British did was to cook, look after their pets and sell old family junk, Germans just watched porn and sang horrible songs...etc for some time. :lol:

We had 'irresponsible' parents, so we were allowed to watch, listen, read everything available. I blame them for this. I could have grown up without learning anything and be 'happy' with a much little, dumbed down world for a long time, if they weren't like this. Honestly, I sometimes envy those people who opened their doors to the world only when it was inevitable with internet and all this shit we have now. Ignorance is bliss.
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Gawdzilla Sama

QuoteThe original was combination of bizarre lunacy that gave you a feeling that you could leave reality, turn your mind over to Hollywood, go temporarily insane, and that everything would still be all right after you left the theater.

"Mad Max" was an Australian production, not Hollywood.
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SGOS

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on May 14, 2015, 06:14:35 AM
"Mad Max" was an Australian production, not Hollywood.
I actually thought that was the case while I was typing, but I let it stand because I wasn't positive, and I thought no one would care.

drunkenshoe

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on May 14, 2015, 06:14:35 AM
"Mad Max" was an Australian production, not Hollywood.

Yeah, I thought just the first one was. :lol:

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QuoteThe Australian New Wave (also known as the Australian Film Revival, Australian Film Renaissance, or New Australian Cinema) was an era of resurgence in worldwide popularity of Australian cinema, particularly in the United States. It began in the early 1970s and lasted until the mid-late 1980s.

The era marked the emergence of Ozploitation, a film genre characterised by the exploitation of colloquial Australian culture.

Probably because it was made in English?
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SGOS

It used to be that for me, foreign films were easy to spot.  They had a different feel and lower production values.  Now it's not that easy, and Australia (why Australia), has come on very strong in the movie industry, and sort of out of nowhere.  The movie Love Actually... Is that British or American?  I've seen it at least 10 times and always wondered, but I never looked it up.  Also to make it more difficult, Hollywood has attracted so many foreign actors, that it no longer seems like a purely American endeavor.

Green Bottle

Quote from: drunkenshoe on May 14, 2015, 03:22:47 AM
I LOVED Mad Max movies very much as a kid. Everyone loves that movie here, and probably almost everywhere. I hope, this is not going to ruin all that.  :sad2:
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Me too Shoe, thought they were brilliant at the time an Mel Gibson played the part of the Road Warrior well,  now i think he's just an Arse.... :shifty:
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drunkenshoe

Quote from: SGOS on May 14, 2015, 08:16:02 AM
It used to be that for me, foreign films were easy to spot.  They had a different feel and lower production values.  Now it's not that easy, and Australia (why Australia), has come on very strong in the movie industry, and sort of out of nowhere.  The movie Love Actually... Is that British or American?  I've seen it at least 10 times and always wondered, but I never looked it up.  Also to make it more difficult, Hollywood has attracted so many foreign actors, that it no longer seems like a purely American endeavor.

'Hollywood movie' is not just the movie made by Americans and played by American actors. It's a style.

There is no big money and fame for actors if they do not go to Hollywood. 

Love Actually is an American movie.
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Mike Cl

Quote from: drunkenshoe on May 14, 2015, 03:22:47 AM
I LOVED Mad Max movies very much as a kid. Everyone loves that movie here, and probably almost everywhere. I hope, this is not going to ruin all that.  :sad2:
I, too, loved the Mad Max series--especially the Thunderdome.  Love my Tina Turner!  Saw a large segment of The Road Warrior the other night--couldn't sleep and was channel flipping.  Realized that Mel Gibson himself has ruined that movie for me.  I can't stand that man anymore and that dislike has slopped over to his movies.  So, I'm glad he isn't in this new one. 
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