http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/21/womens-march-biggest-protest-history-estimated-2-4-million-march.html
QuoteWomen’s March Is The Biggest Protest In US History As An Estimated 2.9 Million March
Millions of Americans have taken to the streets from New York to Los Angeles and everywhere in between as the Women's Marches on Washington is estimated to be the biggest one-day protest in US history.
Millions of Americans have taken to the streets from New York to Los Angeles and everywhere in between as the Women’s Marches on Washington is estimated to be the biggest one-day protest in US history.
UConn professor Jeremy Pressman is keeping a running total of crowd estimates across the United States in a Google document.
An estimated 60,000 people marched in Atlanta. 250,000 are marching in Chicago. There are estimates of 250,000 people in Boston, and 200,000 more in Denver. In New York, the estimate ranges from 200,000-500,000. City officials estimate that 500,000 people participated in the main march in Washington, DC. In Los Angeles, the estimate is anywhere from 200,000-750,000.
There were also protests of 60,000 in Oakland, CA, 50,000 in Philadelphia, 100,000 in Madison, WI, 20,000 in Pittsburgh, 20,000 in Nashville, TN, and 60,000 in St. Paul, MN.
In the history of the United States, there has never been a one-day protest that was this large.
1982’s anti-nuclear march in New York City drew an estimated crowd of 1 million. The 1963 Civil Rights March on Washington drew 250,000. 1969 anti-Vietnam war march in Washington was attended by an estimated 500,000-600,000. 1995’s Million Man March was attended by 400,000-1.1 million. In 1993, the LGBT March for equal rights had a crowd of 800,00-1 million.
There has never been anything in US history like the Women’s March. It is nationwide, and proof that the American people are not going accept the agenda of the Trump administration without a serious fight.
For a nation sick of this "SJW/liberal bullshit", it oddly seems that more of the nation (from the polls to the marches) actively support those causes than support the xenophobic and sexist bullshit of the administration and in states that lack adequate education and socio-economic standards.
It's a shame the nation seems so split into half about being decent human beings and being bigots amongst those who participate, and that there is about half of the country that cant be assed one way or another because the bigots convinced them that their vote and voice doesn't matter.
I got semi-baited by a conservative last night about this asking "why are these women marching. What is this women's march about? anyone care to explain?"
And I told him how it was a march in celebration of women, but also a protest of the incoming legislative attacks on their rights.
.... and then.... he started to argue. when I mentioned how they seek to overturn Roe v Wade, because he asked for an example, afterwards, he goes " I don't want to have to fund people's recreational fucking. They should learn to keep their legs closed"
I knew the switch was coming, in his bait and switch, but I did it anyway... probably because I was aware that it was a bait and switch and knew to call him out on it and back out when it happened. It's bullshit. BUT. The women's march seemed to be a success. DC law enforcement reported ZERO arrests, and while I heard of a few arrests in other regions, the incidents were minimal. Beyond a success, imo. And very inspiring.
Not all marches are fronts for anarchists or criminals, fortunately. Lawfully and peaceable assembly shouldn't be prohibited, though I understand it can get in the way of people's morning commute.
This is meant in fun ... women being practical multl-taskers ... the women't marches should have appropriate music blaring, so that the ladies can jazzercise and lose some weight (whatever is appropriate weight for them individually of course).
I would hope that Roe-vs-Wade won't be overturned ... just because. Of course if Dominionists achieve dictatorship as some here fear, then we will all have to become Christaliban.
Delusional Dames (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/01/delusional_dames.html)
QuoteBut, I have a super idea for these delusional dames. Pack up your sideshow and head to Riyadh. Unbelievably, these intellectual pygmies were reading the Koran with reverence at a P*ssy March. Has a disconnect ever been more huge? And not one journalist has the backbone to highlight this jaw-dropping idiocy?
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Quote from: pr126 on January 23, 2017, 07:51:20 AM
Delusional Dames (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/01/delusional_dames.html)
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just when my belief that humanity isn't as stupid as all hell..
It was fantastic to see record numbers of people (there were many men numbering among the women), marching in in opposition to Chump and the Repubes' imminent assault on women's rights (and everyone's rights, for that matter).
Quote from: Baruch on January 22, 2017, 05:45:46 PMI would hope that Roe-vs-Wade won't be overturned ... just because. Of course if Dominionists achieve dictatorship as some here fear, then we will all have to become Christaliban.
I hope you voted for Hillary then. Because if you don't want RvW overturned, the only hope was Hillary. Which is why I voted for her.
If RvW is overturned, then we might as well pack it in and say goodnight as a species, because all hope for humanity would be lost forever.
By the way, I just doubled my monthly contribution to Planned Parenthood. I urge every American here to contribute to them regularly in order to help women in need and to fight the good fight against the evil empire.
Our new president hasn't even acknowledged it. He doesn't give a fucking fuck about what the people want.
I won't put down the entire thing, because their is solid reason to be fearful of trump and his chosen candidates, but some of the shit this March brought with it was worse then any crap the crump could spew out.
Madonna is a fucking joke, blowing up the white house? Oh clever thing that, sorry Madonna your not exactly Guy Fawkes. And some of the shit their coming out with in the crowds.
https://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=6NZ3hMeJei0
https://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=82BsFb7bajc
Trumps a grotesque person, but the reactions of these protesters is worse then any damage he could do to America.
I don't need a doctors permission for birth control so I pretty much give them the right to bitch.
Madonna is a jerkoff. She did more harm than anyone else.
Please look past her. She was one of millions of women who were there for the same reason. Think about why they were there.
Quote... but some of the shit this March brought with it was worse then any crap the crump could spew out.
Objectively prove that, please.
QuoteTrumps a grotesque person, but the reactions of these protesters is worse then any damage he could do to America.
Definitely objectively prove that, please. You are telling me that fringe sections of a multi-million people march is going to do more damage than the sitting president of the United States, the guy who's party controls all levels of policy making.
And you and several others say this same shit every time there is a protest, be it against whatever... you find someway to make it about how the fringe groups are a bigger threat then the people
actually making policy and passing it into law. Any time someone raises their voice, you hop on the bandwagon of trying to silence it by taking the most fringe aspects of it and painting the entire movement with the same brush. You can try to hide it behind your, "I'm not racist, but..." preface of you aren't trying to put the whole thing down... but every single movement, be it women's rights, African American rights, anti-Police brutality rights, whatever... the only message you have is one of negativity and going on and on about how parts of the movement are in your opinion.
And I don't know why; I don't know if it's just how you have been trained to think, if you disagree with the movements, or what... but it seems any time anything good is done, the knee jerk reaction is to find the absolute worse aspect and try to discredit the movement through it and ignore the actual reason people are protesting.
So please, objectively tell me... how in the hell are these people a bigger threat to you than the politicians who hold every top level position in the government? I want to see the workings on that.
They're marching for freedom, justice and equality, and some tiny-minded people think that's a threat.
If you feel threatened by freedom, justice and equality, GOOD. Oh, and FUCK YOU.
https://youtu.be/Hlidu1UoWyA
Oh ho ho Shiranu, always love that ends justices the means attitude you have there.
That said, you miss the point entirely, the push this march vaguely aimed at becomes undermined by violent, ignorant protesters at the forefront of said march, giving the same old shit of "DOWN WITH CIS WHITE MENZ" or "BURN THE WHITE HOUSE". When these people are at the front of your march, it just makes the rest look bad for any rational points the rest are trying to make.
I'd also like to remind you of what democracy stands for, trump, awful as he is, was elected via a democratic system that lets the people decide. Oh, he isn't who YOU wanted? To fucking bad, maybe more of you should have voted for Hillary then.
You don't live in a dictatorship, like north Korea, the fact this March can be given weight in the first place is something you should be grateful for. But if the protest is spearheaded by violent and ignorant protesters, maybe assessing the idiots in the crowd for fucking it all up would make better sense then just believing their points are as valid as the non-crazies
This is the same shit like with #BLM, that a point being made in mass protest, is marred by idiots in the crowd with the loudest voice destroying the original point of said group entirely. It's pretty much handing the media a red button to the dynamite
Quote from: Atheon on January 24, 2017, 02:22:15 AM
They're marching for freedom, justice and equality, and some tiny-minded people think that's a threat.
If you feel threatened by freedom, justice and equality, GOOD. Oh, and FUCK YOU.
Except, you know, where some are more equal then others.
Quote from: Munch on January 24, 2017, 05:18:53 AM
Except, you know, where some are more equal then others.
I love the ladies ... I always ask first, so I know what they want me to think or feel, before I think or feel. Kali-Ma isn't the Terrible Mother for nothing.
Quote from: Atheon on January 24, 2017, 02:22:15 AM
They're marching for freedom, justice and equality, and some tiny-minded people think that's a threat.
If you feel threatened by freedom, justice and equality, GOOD. Oh, and FUCK YOU.
They won't accomplish any goals, other than sore feet. They have to reform the existing parties, or form a working third party. That takes a lot more than sore feet. Exhibitionists all of them. The 1960s were legendary ... it didn't happen like you young people think. Get the hell out of the Dean's office already, or I will jack up your tuition again, slackers!
I am against freedom (for my enemies) ... against justice and equality. Freedom only for me and my friends. Common good? Having my enemies in jail. Justice? Ditto. Equality? Having my jailed enemies in identical orange jumpsuits. The previous was an unpaid advertisement for Self-Righteous Against Sinners ;-)
There is also this issue.
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Shiranu can't help himself. He is what he is, a totally indoctrinated ideologe.
Quote from: pr126 on January 24, 2017, 06:41:23 AM
Shiranu can't help himself. He is what he is, a totally indoctrinated ideologe.
You left ;-) out ... advance guard of the proletariat ;-) He has expressed interest in being in a monastery, to shelter from the real world. That wouldn't be bad, given the former seminary students who didn't, Felix Dzerzhinsky and Iosif Dzughashvili ... or is that just guys who's last name begins with "Dz"?
Quote from: Munch on January 24, 2017, 06:07:54 AM
There is also this issue.
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Is your point that Islam is a misogynistic religion?
That is not relevant. Women want freedom from laws that oppress them.
Everyone should be free to practice their religion, no matter how fucked up it is, without interference from the government. That is what our country was founded on. If you don't like Muslims' practices, great! But you don't have the right to prevent anyone from practicing that faith.
I don't like Christianity because too many assholes in this religion want exactly that, to govern our great and free country according to their particular bible. *cough Mike Pence cough*.
This CAN NOT HAPPEN. In that vein, it's paramount that everyone is free to practice, even if it offends you.
QuoteThis is the same shit like with #BLM, that a point being made in mass protest, is marred by idiots in the crowd with the loudest voice destroying the original point of said group entirely.
Because you insist on focusing on it and not listening to anyone else. They don't have the loudest voice, it's you handing them the fucking loud speaker. You intentionally seek out the worst bits, share and promote videos that focus on only the absolute worst aspects, and then claim the entire movement has been hijacked.
You are right, it is the same shit as like with BLM... it's you listening to a few people who only focus on the bad, and ignoring the 99% that is good.
QuoteI'd also like to remind you of what democracy stands for, trump, awful as he is, was elected via a democratic system that lets the people decide. Oh, he isn't who YOU wanted? To fucking bad, maybe more of you should have voted for Hillary then.
I don't know if you know this, but in a democracy people generally have the right to protest. Shocking, I know, and by definition a democracy is where the people get engaged in such events. Also... 2 million more votes than Trump, but whatever.
QuoteShiranu can't help himself. He is what he is, a totally indoctrinated ideologe.
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Quote from: Mermaid on January 24, 2017, 08:19:05 AM
Is your point that Islam is a misogynistic religion?
Wasn't the point obvious?
QuoteThat is not relevant. Women want freedom from laws that oppress them.
Heres the thing, imagined oppression isn't real. Women in america protesting this shit, they make up and fantasize oppression because they want to imagine they live in a country thats like that, so they can feel special.
QuoteEveryone should be free to practice their religion, no matter how fucked up it is, without interference from the government. That is what our country was founded on. If you don't like Muslims' practices, great! But you don't have the right to prevent anyone from practicing that faith.
Actually, there is a reason why western governments aren't controlled by theocracies. No one is telling these people they can't follow whatever religion they want, but forcing their religious rules to override government mandated rules is against the law. Unless you want sharia law taking over?
QuoteI don't like Christianity because too many assholes in this religion want exactly that, to govern our great and free country according to their particular bible. *cough Mike Pence cough*.
Heres the thing, again, nobody is telling you what you are to practice or believe in. and while america had founding religious beliefs, it doesn't adhere to what the bible says and neither the quran or any other religious text. Imagining the government is going to force everyone to only follow their beliefs doesn't make it so.
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This CAN NOT HAPPEN. In that vein, it's paramount that everyone is free to practice, even if it offends you.
Nobody is stopping anyone from whatever they practice. The government doesn't adhere to theocracy, it has its own rules. islam would love to have its set of rules be the law of the land, like sharia, but as it conflicts with government rules and regulations, the government has every right to stop it from happening.
Quote from: Shiranu on January 24, 2017, 08:31:11 AM
Because you insist on focusing on it and not listening to anyone else. They don't have the loudest voice, it's you handing them the fucking loud speaker. You intentionally seek out the worst bits, share and promote videos that focus on only the absolute worst aspects, and then claim the entire movement has been hijacked.
Hun, i'm not there, I don't have to hand them anything, they speak all the shit they want themselves and drag themselves under. Or was Madonnas speech a thing of enlightenment I'm missing? OH WAIT, no, she redacted it. http://hotair.com/archives/2017/01/23/madonna-yeah-about-that-blowing-up-the-white-house-thing/
QuoteYou are right, it is the same shit as like with BLM... it's you listening to a few people who only focus on the bad, and ignoring the 99% that is good.
Oh I'm not the news hunny, I'm not the one reporting what BLM does, they pretty much do it to themselves. Maybe you can present reports of BLM putting forth protests that has well thought out arguments and purpose, you know, aside from the highjacking of public events, universities, non-related rallies, foregoing the violence meantime.
QuoteI don't know if you know this, but in a democracy people generally have the right to protest. Shocking, I know, and by definition a democracy is where the people get engaged in such events. Also... 2 million more votes than Trump, but whatever.
Theres protest, and then theres violence, and ignorance.
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https://youtu.be/3ZcoZqvveTw
All the protestors are following the script that the communist agitators have given to them.
The sheeple is just doing what they are told, unquestioningly.
They don't need to think about it deeply. In fact, the less thinking the better.
Quite a few have been paid to be at the demonstrations and to cause as much mayhem as they can.
Rent-a-mob by Soros.
These people are out of touch with reality.
They have never experienced life in countries where this kind of demonstrations are brutally repressed, demonstrators arrested, beaten, raped, tortured, imprisoned, or shot by the authorities.
Iran 2009 anyone?
Or how about back in Budapest in 1956 when Soviet tanks set up shop at both end of the street where I was living?
hungarian revolution (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956)
Quote from: pr126 on January 24, 2017, 09:41:19 AM
All the protestors are following the script that the communist agitators have given to them.
The sheeple is just doing what they are told, unquestioningly.
They don't need to think about it deeply. In fact, the less thinking the better.
Quite a few have been paid to be at the demonstrations and to cause as much mayhem as they can.
Rent-a-mob by Soros.
These people are out of touch with reality.
They have never experienced life in countries where this kind of demonstrations are brutally repressed, demonstrators arrested, beaten, raped, tortured, imprisoned, or shot by the authorities.
Iran 2009 anyone?
Or how about back in Budapest in 1956 when Soviet tanks set up shop at both end of the street where I was living?
hungarian revolution (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956)
What? Kruschev had a hankering for goulash ;-)
On revolutionary cadres ... there will always be people even today who think that Robespierre didn't go far enough ;(
Quote from: pr126 on January 24, 2017, 09:41:19 AM
All the protestors are following the script that the communist agitators have given to them.
The sheeple is just doing what they are told, unquestioningly.
They don't need to think about it deeply. In fact, the less thinking the better.
Wrong. I'm in Taiwan, so I didn't take part, but well over a dozen of my friends, as well as my sister, took part in the protests, and they are following no script given by "communists" (Seriously? Communists? Absolutely laughable and lame there, pr - you are a caricature of Archie Bunker!). They are there for a purpose: to protest Trump and his hateful agenda. Marching to safeguard women's rights, to oppose bigotry, etc.
Communism. Trump is acting far more like a communist than any US president in history. Why aren't you protesting him?? Oh, I get it. You'd actually love the communists. They oppressed Muslims and hated immigrants.
QuoteDefinition of communism
1
a : a theory advocating elimination of private property
b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2
capitalized
a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R.
b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably
d : communist systems collectively
For all you could accuse trump of being, communist doesn't seem quite accurate
I don't believe that Putin is a communist today, either. He may have had to talk the talk in the past however ;-)
Yes, Pr126 is old enough to be Archie Bunker ... but being in England, more like Andy Capp. Agist much?
Quote from: Munch on January 24, 2017, 09:05:55 AM
Wasn't the point obvious?
Heres the thing, imagined oppression isn't real. Women in america protesting this shit, they make up and fantasize oppression because they want to imagine they live in a country thats like that, so they can feel special.
Jesus.
Quote from: Mermaid on January 24, 2017, 07:21:28 PM
Jesus.
no, jesus in his story was nailed to a cross and didn't complain about it much. Maybe not the best example to use. At least in the bible they could make up any shit they wanted and it was real in the context of its fantasy, where as privileged sjw's can only imagine what suffering is.
Quote from: Munch on January 24, 2017, 08:02:55 PM
no, jesus in his story was nailed to a cross and didn't complain about it much. Maybe not the best example to use. At least in the bible they could make up any shit they wanted and it was real in the context of its fantasy, where as privileged sjw's can only imagine what suffering is.
what a dick!
Quote from: Mermaid on January 24, 2017, 09:02:46 PM
what a dick!
Yes, that's what I say browsing tumblr every day
Quote from: Mermaid on January 24, 2017, 09:02:46 PM
what a dick!
I've given up on him and Faith. I will play along when I am in the mood to argue, but they have come to some very hateful and just mean-spirited opinions that some random people on the internet will never talk them out of.
The biggest thing I fear is this attitude seeping more and more into "the real world".
Quote from: Shiranu on January 24, 2017, 09:57:41 PM
I've given up on him and Faith. I will play along when I am in the mood to argue, but they have come to some very hateful and just mean-spirited opinions that some random people on the internet will never talk them out of.
The biggest thing I fear is this attitude seeping more and more into "the real world".
People's self hate and paranoia are the real world. The psychological world isn't unreal .. it is the only real people know. When people are crazy, and they keep it inside, they kill themselves, and their coworkers all tell each other ... we never knew he was like that. But when people externalize their crazy, you get politics or terrorists.
Linda Sarsour (http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/24/linda-sarsours-muslim-identity-politics-epitomize-feminisms-hypocrisy) a sharia promoting, HAMAS, ISIS supporting, woman organized the DC women's march.
The clueless women are agitated by communist and Islamist towards their demise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3NDeyR_1-U
Quote from: pr126 on January 24, 2017, 06:41:23 AM
Shiranu can't help himself. He is what he is, a totally indoctrinated ideologe.
And so are you. ... probably more so... so what is your point?
Quote from: Munch on January 24, 2017, 04:16:41 PM
For all you could accuse trump of being, communist doesn't seem quite accurate
The communists were:
Authoritarians who did not tolerate opposition or criticism.
Opposed to freedom of speech, press, assembly, movement, etc.
Anti-minority and anti-gay.
Sexual purists.
Anti-environment.
Anti-immigrant.
Advocates of closed borders and closed society.
Pro-cult of personality.
Perhaps one of the few differences between the Commies and the Nazis were that the Nazis used religion as a mind control tool. So Trump is more like a Nazi.
QuoteAuthoritarians who did not tolerate opposition or criticism.
That describes the "liberal" left very accurately. Projecting?
Those people calling themselves antifascist?
They are like the 1930 brown shirts using violence and intimidation to silence opposition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpJsmv-9ieo
Quote from: Shiranu on January 24, 2017, 09:57:41 PM
I've given up on him and Faith. I will play along when I am in the mood to argue, but they have come to some very hateful and just mean-spirited opinions that some random people on the internet will never talk them out of.
The biggest thing I fear is this attitude seeping more and more into "the real world".
Or, hear this out, because it's objectionable to your own opinion, you can only interpret it as hateful? Nothing worse then an echo chamber in debates, including blanket statements.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 25, 2017, 12:54:32 AM
And so are you. ... probably more so... so what is your point?
Here is my point.
Western societies are infected with a mind virus that will result in their own destruction.
Quote from: pr126 on January 25, 2017, 05:19:47 AM
Here is my point.
Western societies are infected with a mind virus that will result in their own destruction.
It is necessary for every society to die ... like any other living organism. We will mourn, but life continues. Think in terms of thousands of years, not minutes. Get some perspective. Aside from posting here, do you do anything for yourself to just be happy? I hope so. I know what old and bitter is like. And the youngsters ... oy! But we were like that once too.
It looks like western societies are racing for the Darwin Award.
Look at any other cultures, groups, ethnicities.
Do the rubbish themselves like westerners do?
Do they have any collective guilt? Are they self hating at all?
Do they keep apologizing for what they do, or done in the past?
And White Guilt. But don't look for guilt in any other ethnicities. It doesn't exist.
Why not? Are they any better?
https://youtu.be/ygr_u6ys9YQ
Nothing to do with the women's march, pr.
They were marching to voice their intention to fight for their rights and freedoms, which are under attack by Der Trumpenfuhrer and his Trumpettes in Congress.
Quote from: Atheon on January 23, 2017, 03:20:54 PM
I hope you voted for Hillary then. Because if you don't want RvW overturned, the only hope was Hillary. Which is why I voted for her.
If RvW is overturned, then we might as well pack it in and say goodnight as a species, because all hope for humanity would be lost forever.
By the way, I just doubled my monthly contribution to Planned Parenthood. I urge every American here to contribute to them regularly in order to help women in need and to fight the good fight against the evil empire.
I suspect that many conservatives who are against abortion have massive investments in coat-hangers manufacturing.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 25, 2017, 04:31:28 PMI suspect that many conservatives who are against abortion have massive investments in coat-hangers manufacturing.
Military-industrial investments more like. Nothing better than having the undesirables bleed for you and reap the rewards.
Quote from: Shiranu on January 24, 2017, 09:57:41 PM
I've given up on him and Faith. I will play along when I am in the mood to argue, but they have come to some very hateful and just mean-spirited opinions that some random people on the internet will never talk them out of.
The biggest thing I fear is this attitude seeping more and more into "the real world".
I don't think I'm hateful. My thing is that I want more rights for everyone. Not less. If not censoring people is going to result in a few more trans or gay people committing suicide, then I'm sorry, but I'm still not supporting the censorship. The spirit of free speech is extremely important to me, but I fully support rights for the queer community, for women, and for minorities. I'm in full support of bringing in refugees. I've not put down the women's march, as I think Trump is someone that needs to be protested. I'm worried that women may be in trouble too.
I understand that the anti-SJWs are assholes too. Many of the most popular ones are transphobic. Many of them claim that white privilege is not real and that slavery was a long time ago so blacks need to get over it already and stop making excuses for their own failures. I used to have a similar attitude when it came to the white privilege thing, but discussions on here have helped me change how I see this issue, and I now understand and agree with the other side. When you are far less likely to grow up without a father, going to a shitty school, with shitty influences trying to recruit you into gangs, and when you are having less unnecessary interactions with police and an easier time getting a job, that's privilege. I used to go on and on about the problem of Islam too, but now I see how silly that was. Islam is a problem for the Muslim countries, but I don't think it's a threat to the West.
So yes, I understand that the anti-SJWs are wrong about a lot, but I can at least respect that they don't want to do away with free speech. When it comes to discussion on here, my opinions can be changed and you've helped me slightly alter some of my opinions. Others have completely changed my opinion on certain topics. I'm here to learn, not to teach, and you do often make good points that somewhat alter how I see things. Sometimes your opinions are a little out there, like considering talking about periods in a negative manner to be offensive. Last I checked, women don't seem to love getting their periods, so if they can see it as a negative, I should not be considered anti-woman for talking about a period as a negative. That's when things start getting a little silly. Almost everyone posts stuff that's a little silly from time to time though. After taking part in some discussions, I will feel stupid sometimes and regret posting certain things, and I will change my opinion if I think the other person's argument is better than my own, so I reject the notion that I'm completely set in my ways or hateful.
Why am I mean spirited towards SJWs? I won't stop using the language that they find offensive, because if I did they would win. The more offended that they get by every little thing said, the more it makes people want to continue saying those supposedly offensive things even more. The SJWs are asking for it. It's like when there's a protest against gay marriage. That just makes gay people want to shove it in their faces even more, and make out in front of them at the protest. The SJWs are not helping young people by teaching them to be as soft as toilet paper. If someone is naturally sensitive, then that is fine, but you don't need to encourage young people to be soft and weak and miserable to see progress in society.
Trumpettes? Well I will take these Rockettes over Congress ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyZeGOsR9IA
In the Senate, those costumes would be real gold!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBlB8RAJEEc&list=PL8ds3avQv8lmctTDcE3vywyrT0XOgRrB3
(Democrat) Party like it is Berlin, 1932!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moOamKxW844&list=PL8ds3avQv8lmctTDcE3vywyrT0XOgRrB3&index=7
Great finale ... listen to the words!
These protests were barely violent by historical standards. People like to pretend that violent riots never affect changes, but take a look at the many riots of the 20th century alone and you'll find they quite often get things changed. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse, but there really is no denying that riots can change the political landscape. We're continually feed the line that only peaceful protests can change things and violence is only ok when perpetrated by the authorities.
I think we've come full circle and have set the stage for a new round of very violent protests and with so many people in possession of firearms there's no telling where this may lead.
I'm not advocating for violence, but to hear it told the ONLY people who should ever use violence are police protecting people with the money.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States
Quote from: Atheon on January 25, 2017, 04:08:22 PM
Nothing to do with the women's march, pr.
They were marching to voice their intention to fight for their rights and freedoms, which are under attack by Der Trumpenfuhrer and his Trumpettes in Congress.
What rights and freedoms will American women lose with Trump as president?
Can you specify? Please list them.
Possibly with evidence. Thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sREyrKc7EiQ
Quote from: pr126 on January 25, 2017, 11:19:50 PM
What rights and freedoms will American women lose with Trump as president?
Can you specify? Please list them.
Possibly with evidence. Thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sREyrKc7EiQ
The freedom to control what is in our own uteruses for starters.
"I'm looking for logic in a sea of broads"
thats a good sig.
Lets also not forget, as the guy said, that this entire womens march was started, and spearheaded, by a woman, who wants Sharia Law pushed forward in the west.
And if you think thats progressive somehow, heres a nice list of all things sharia law represents.
Quote• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal".
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
Mmm yeah, we need to really push for this to come into the west, its not progressive it you don't
Yeah, wearing a hijab to show solidarity is a terrible idea. Continuing to use the Clinton slogans as chants is a really dumb idea too. "Love trumps hate". Let Clinton fade away and die. The monster was rejected in a big way, and you're not helping your cause by using the slogans of a failed, wildly unpopular candidate who was never even liberal.
Nothing works better than deflecting on to everyone the silly ideas of the few.
Let's use the example of 10 billion people wanting a clean environment. It HAS TO be a bad idea because one person probably said that Trump isn't clean which means that cleanliness is just a political hoax. Yup, entire idea of a clean environment is instantly debunked.
You know..my own daughter absolutely denies being a feminist despite the fact that she has a pretty decent job and is paid more than most of the men where she works, isn't required to wear a dress, gets pretty damn good health insurance and paid maternity leave. In other words, gets the majority of the benefits of feminism without having to acknowledge that without feminists she would have none of these things.
Denial isn't a river in Egypt. It's your 'god given right'.
So in other words, your pushing your ideology on your daughter. Thats not a healthy thing to do. She doesn't have those things because she's a feminist, she has those things because the balance of political standards has equaled out in this time and place.
I dunno why I have to say it, but these group thinks are always unhealthy in the long run, because if you can't think outside the box, your be trapped in it. Maybe she wants to consider everyone else on the same level, unlike modern day feminists would do in claiming to want equality, but at the expense of anyone who isn't a feminist.
These group ideologies are as bad as any religion, because once the negative aspects overwhelm it, just like religions, any question of that group think being wrong induces rage, like a pissed off hydra. Its all well and good saying you want to protect women from trumps laws, but when you start to also let insidious ideals seep into the group think, not questioning them because your so focused on the single goal, then it becomes a problem.
Question what the fuck is happening around you, always question it, don't just accept it because you share a single minded goal.
Quote from: Mermaid on January 26, 2017, 07:52:30 AM
The freedom to control what is in our own uteruses for starters.
Who is responsible what is in your uterus?
The state?
Quote from: pr126 on January 26, 2017, 10:57:09 AM
Who is responsible what is in your uterus?
The state?
No, which is why the state should stay the fuck out of women's bodies.
Freedom is paramount.
Quote from: pr126 on January 25, 2017, 11:19:50 PM
What rights and freedoms will American women lose with Trump as president?
Can you specify? Please list them.
Possibly with evidence. Thank you.
How about these?
1. The right to have an abortion.
2. The right to affordable healthcare.
3. Freedom from religion. (Church/state separation)
4. Gay marriage.
Evidence? The Republicans have made it crystal clear that they want to strip Americans of these rights. It's no secret. Google it if you need convincing, but it's like asking for evidence that the sky is blue.
There are other rights under threat: freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom of protest, freedom of movement, freedom of access to information, freedom of religion, the right to vote ... just look at the newspapers each morning and you'll see what rights, freedoms and minorities Trump is attacking.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on January 26, 2017, 10:08:45 AM
Yeah, wearing a hijab to show solidarity is a terrible idea. Continuing to use the Clinton slogans as chants is a really dumb idea too. "Love trumps hate". Let Clinton fade away and die. The monster was rejected in a big way, and you're not helping your cause by using the slogans of a failed, wildly unpopular candidate who was never even liberal.
Madelien Albright (former Sec of State) now says ... will convert to Islam, to show solidarity with all those terrorist we have been supporting since the Reagan administration! Put all the Democrat women in hijab or better yet, burqa ... so they can be clearly identified when they go in public, if their husbands/fathers let them!
Quote from: pr126 on January 26, 2017, 10:57:09 AM
Who is responsible what is in your uterus?
The state?
Put chastity on the boys, then no more women problems ;-)) I do blame the boys more than the girls. Sharia sex law (at least regarding promiscuity).
Quote from: Atheon on January 26, 2017, 12:31:08 PM
How about these?
1. The right to have an abortion.
2. The right to affordable healthcare.
3. Freedom from religion. (Church/state separation)
4. Gay marriage.
Evidence? The Republicans have made it crystal clear that they want to strip Americans of these rights. It's no secret. Google it if you need convincing, but it's like asking for evidence that the sky is blue.
There are other rights under threat: freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom of protest, freedom of movement, freedom of access to information, freedom of religion, the right to vote ... just look at the newspapers each morning and you'll see what rights, freedoms and minorities Trump is attacking.
The right to affordable healthcare. ... that one isn't happening, no way, no how. Pink elephants first. I support the others. After Trump destroys Europe, and Canada and any other place that has free medicine ... because they aren't paying their way in Nato ... then see how much brie that gets you ;-)
Freedom from religion? I guess it applies to Christianity only.
By the look of it, the "liberal" left has no problem with Islam.
I have seen the women in the demonstration march showing solidarity to their "Muslim Sisters", putting on hijabs, one was even screaming the Muslim battlecry Allhu akbar.
What the hell? Getting used by Linda Sarsour for her agenda? How stupid is that?
And.
Does the state forbid abortion? Should the state pay for your abortion?
Quote from: pr126 on January 26, 2017, 01:28:36 PM
Freedom from religion? I guess it applies to Christianity only.
By the look of it, the "liberal" left has no problem with Islam.
I have seen the women in the demonstration march showing solidarity to their "Muslim Sisters", putting on hijabs, one was even screaming the Muslim battlecry Allhu akbar.
What the hell? Getting used by Linda Sarsour for her agenda? How stupid is that?
And.
Does the state forbid abortion? Should the state pay for your abortion?
like I say, this march demonstrated when people have a single minded goal, someone with an insidious ideal can work into the crowd, claim they are for that single minded ideal, and then use it to their advantage. Thats why this womens match will go down in history as a massive joke, unlike something like the Suffragettes in 1903 that sort for and achieved something.
Quote from: pr126 on January 26, 2017, 01:28:36 PM
Freedom from religion? I guess it applies to Christianity only.
By the look of it, the "liberal" left has no problem with Islam.
There you go again with your strawmen: conflating Islam, Muslims, and Islamic extremism.
I, a liberal, find Islamic extremism abhorrent and Sharia Law a travesty. I, an atheist, find Islam wrong, like any religion. But I, a humanist, have no problem with Muslims, who are human beings and as such should enjoy equal human rights. But I do have problems with people of murderous intent, no matter what their motivation.
I have yet to find even the most outspoken SJW support Sharia Law. What liberals are defending are the equal rights of Muslims, not the acts of violent extremists or the requirement of people to follow religious laws they do not wish to follow.
QuoteDoes the state forbid abortion?
Not yet, but if Trump and the Republicans get their way, it will be outlawed nationwide. They have loudly pledged to outlaw abortion (chiefly though Supreme Court nominations and a barrage of ever-restrictive laws), even though 70% of the population believes it should be legal.
QuoteShould the state pay for your abortion?
No, and it doesn't. Not in the US, anyway. For decades it has been illegal for taxpayer money to fund abortions.
Quote from: Munch on January 26, 2017, 01:34:19 PM
like I say, this march demonstrated when people have a single minded goal, someone with an insidious ideal can work into the crowd, claim they are for that single minded ideal, and then use it to their advantage. Thats why this womens match will go down in history as a massive joke, unlike something like the Suffragettes in 1903 that sort for and achieved something.
What on earth are you talking about? One person? Who?
Some 4-5 million people took part. It has been widely recognized as a success, with minimal violence (every demonstration has some unaffiliated assholes who cause trouble, but it was minimal... 200 incidents or thereabouts among millions), and lauded for its historic nature. It is still being celebrated, and it was such a success that more marches are planned.
If you want to know the message, read the signs (many of which are being collected by museums to document this historic event).
Quotesome 4- 5 million people took part.
Some 4-5 millon people have been fooled. They were used for political gain.
Also, the main theme was that stupid "pussy grabbing" with some really unsavoury showing of props and speeches.
Cringingly shameful. Nothing to be proud of.
I'm glad our 2 friends who aren't from the US care so much about us. Warms my heart.
Quote from: Munch on January 26, 2017, 01:34:19 PM
like I say, this march demonstrated when people have a single minded goal, someone with an insidious ideal can work into the crowd, claim they are for that single minded ideal, and then use it to their advantage. Thats why this womens match will go down in history as a massive joke, unlike something like the Suffragettes in 1903 that sort for and achieved something.
LOL, there were worst riots when the Giants won the world series in 2014.
Quote from: Atheon on January 26, 2017, 01:49:17 PM
What on earth are you talking about? One person? Who?
Some 4-5 million people took part. It has been widely recognized as a success, with minimal violence (every demonstration has some unaffiliated assholes who cause trouble, but it was minimal... 200 incidents or thereabouts among millions), and lauded for its historic nature. It is still being celebrated, and it was such a success that more marches are planned.
If you want to know the message, read the signs (many of which are being collected by museums to document this historic event).
Linda Sarsour. you really didn't know who spearheaded the march?
http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/24/linda-sarsours-muslim-identity-politics-epitomize-feminisms-hypocrisy/
Quote from: Atheon on January 26, 2017, 01:40:39 PMNot yet, but if Trump and the Republicans get their way, it will be outlawed nationwide. They have loudly pledged to outlaw abortion (chiefly though Supreme Court nominations and a barrage of ever-restrictive laws), even though 70% of the population believes it should be legal.
This. Although abortion is legal in all 50 states, various states have put up roadblocks to make it difficult to obtain an abortion.
Abortion facilities are targeted with strict building regulations (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/va-politics/va-board-adopts-strict-abortion-clinic-rules/2013/04/12/fb60d3ca-a35f-11e2-82bc-511538ae90a4_story.html) - ostensibly for to ensure the safety of women - which just happens to get these clinics closed down when they can't afford to comply with the new regulations. Additionally, clinics can be pretty few (http://www.register-herald.com/news/only-one-abortion-clinic-in-west-virginia-remains-operational/article_142b5af2-2e16-57a3-abc6-4454d434ec71.html) and far between (http://liberalarts.utexas.edu/txpep/_files/pdf/Rapidly-Changing-Access-to-Abortion-in-TX-18Jul2014.jpg), creating long delays. Which leads me to another restriction, mandatory waiting periods. In some states, you can get a gun faster than you can get an abortion. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/gun-waiting-periods_n_3437650.html)
Additionally:
* parental consent/notification (there have been attempts at requiring spousal consent, but those were struck down as unconstitutional, presumably by godless heathen judicial activists)
* mandatory abortion counseling (typically attempting to talk the woman out of getting the abortion)
* mandatory ultrasounds (which I've heard is a blast for rape victims)
* mandatory funeral services for the fetus (http://www.salon.com/2016/11/30/texas-will-now-require-funeral-services-whenever-a-woman-has-an-abortion/) (to really drive home the idea of fetal personhood)
So yeah, abortion is technically legal. The abortion clinic is a 3-hour drive away and it's surrounded by bear traps and landmines, but it's open.
Quote from: Munch on January 26, 2017, 01:34:19 PM
like I say, this march demonstrated when people have a single minded goal, someone with an insidious ideal can work into the crowd, claim they are for that single minded ideal, and then use it to their advantage. Thats why this womens match will go down in history as a massive joke, unlike something like the Suffragettes in 1903 that sort for and achieved something.
The Suffragettes didn't just march or petition the government or get arrested. They got Victorian men to agree with them. That must have been a tough task.
Quote from: Baruch on January 26, 2017, 06:13:41 PM
The Suffragettes didn't just march or petition the government or get arrested. They got Victorian men to agree with them. That must have been a tough task.
its a pity that level of class isn't present in todays marches, maybe it would make a difference, but then again the worlds a different place to 1903, we have a loooot more people then back then.
Quoteits a pity that level of class isn't present in todays marches...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/be/6e/b0/be6eb057a8d9d2f101fd5b28a2c0f90f.jpg)
Please, if it was 1903 you would be bitching about those damn women causing a ruckus...probably lamenting that the officers had to dirty their uniforms in removing these unlawful morons because of their disorderly conduct. Don't act like radical opinions and violence in a protest magically appeared a generation ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VqtE4ZddZc
Quote from: Shiranu on January 26, 2017, 10:11:52 PM
Please, if it was 1903 you would be bitching about those damn women causing a ruckus...probably lamenting that the officers had to dirty their uniforms in removing these unlawful morons because of their disorderly conduct. Don't act like radical opinions and violence in a protest magically appeared a generation ago.
Considering if it were that time, you wouldn't even have a voice to speak out about it, so just as well we don't live in those time now isn't it?
This march was a disorganized mess, laboured with opportunistic rabble-rousers, violence, misopportunities, and as the woman side in the video, it was clearly made to celebrate Hillary prematurely before it was even announced she won. Your being very indicative of someone who wanted it to mean more then it did, because if it was about fighting for women's rights in a country that has women's rights in place, why didn't any of it talk about the suffering of women in less privileged countries as America.
Nothing will change from this protest, because the things these people were screaming about on that day, are already law in America.
A key insight! That this was already planned, as a victory parade for Hillary, and they had to change their plans. Sorry gals ... better candidate next time. Tulsi Gabbard is a Democrat with some guts.
[ quote] This march was a disorganized mess... [/quote]
Reality says otherwise considering how well regarded it's been considered, but once again since you only have eyes to the very worst and don't see the forest for the trees... I can see how you come to that conclusion.
The fact you think it was fighting to gain women's rights showa you don't actually have a single clue about what you are actually talking about...
Quote from: Shiranu on January 27, 2017, 10:29:57 AM
[ quote] This march was a disorganized mess...
Reality says otherwise considering how well regarded it's been considered, but once again since you only have eyes to the very worst and don't see the forest for the trees... I can see how you come to that conclusion.
The fact you think it was fighting to gain women's rights showa you don't actually have a single clue about what you are actually talking about...
That's the thing with echo chambers, simply telling one another what you did was a success, doesn't necessarily make it so. Have things improved after this march? Has trump been beaten? Are republicans nicer people?
What did you hope this would achieve, beside knocking over some trash cans?
QuoteThat's the thing with echo chambers, simply telling one another what you did was a success, doesn't necessarily make it so.
That's the thing with echo chambers, simply telling one another that what someone did was a failure and only looking at sources that agree, doesn't necessarily make it so.
Funny how that works both ways.
QuoteHave things improved after this march? Has trump been beaten? Are republicans nicer people?
Yes, no, no.
QuoteWhat did you hope this would achieve, beside knocking over some trash cans?
What does any protest achieve? Very few make a direct impact, especially without violence. But what they do do is reinforce a mentality of solidarity, that there are other people who are pissed off and want to see things change, creates chances to network, gets people talking about the issue. It shows an act of defiance, it pisses people off who disagree (like the Yarn Store saying they don't want women who participated to be customers) and makes them expose themselves so they can be boycotted and lets you know that you don't want your money going to their bigotry. It brings people together.
The intangible effects are just as important, if not more so, than the tangible.
The fact that museums are clamoring to get exhibits from the largest march in U.S. history also kinda says it was a big deal.
Btw, American Scientists are planning to do the exact same thing in response to the gag-order. It will likely be just as successful in your opinion (that is to say, not at all at changing anything). Are you going to start calling the scientists what they are as well (a bunch of disorganized messes of opportunists and rabble risers)... or since it's a group you approve of are they okay?
Quote from: Munch on January 27, 2017, 11:21:54 AM
That's the thing with echo chambers, simply telling one another what you did was a success, doesn't necessarily make it so. Have things improved after this march? Has trump been beaten? Are republicans nicer people?
What did you hope this would achieve, beside knocking over some trash cans?
They were ladies. Unlike the property breaking and torching anarchists the day of the inauguration.
Most US scientists, are government employees ... directly or indirectly thru grants. If we are going to be partisan, and follow the spoils system, then all Democrat scientists lose their grant money or government job ... on change of administration. Or maybe we shouldn't make science, partisan to begin with.
Social justic is strong here.
I agree with munch, good in principle, hijakced by rabble rousers and madonnas to be something innefective and even more polarizing.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on January 27, 2017, 03:17:49 PM
Social justic is strong here.
I agree with munch, good in principle, hijakced by rabble rousers and madonnas to be something innefective and even more polarizing.
Yep, along with the face of said march being of a woman who wants sharia law in the west, a law that would make this march non-existent
Interesting to read this thread as a fly on the wall. It's great to hear men chiming in with disapproval. I see the focus is all on how the women behaved and the pink hats and lack of class (lol!), and not on the absolutely monstrous, racist, sexist, undiplomatic, reactionary, mentally ill xenophobic vulgarian in the white house.
Is it possible to stop and think for a moment about why all those women might be upset?
By the way Munch, you cannot possibly attribute violence to the women's marches last Saturday. Millions of women marched peacefully. Do you have any reason to mention violence while discussing how you disapprove of this movement?
Quote from: Shiranu on January 27, 2017, 11:36:18 AM
Btw, American Scientists are planning to do the exact same thing in response to the gag-order. It will likely be just as successful in your opinion (that is to say, not at all at changing anything). Are you going to start calling the scientists what they are as well (a bunch of disorganized messes of opportunists and rabble risers)... or since it's a group you approve of are they okay?
I'd love to join this movement myself, but I am honestly afraid I would lose my job were I to get involved. I really believe that.
Quote from: Mermaid on January 27, 2017, 07:08:29 PM
I'd love to join this movement myself, but I am honestly afraid I would lose my job were I to get involved. I really believe that.
You are being realistic unfortunately. Will politicizing science continue? Will R or D push if forward ... since winning at all cost is all they can think about. As a general conformist, my job is in no danger, other than ageism.
Quote from: Mermaid on January 27, 2017, 07:06:13 PM
Interesting to read this thread as a fly on the wall. It's great to hear men chiming in with disapproval. I see the focus is all on how the women behaved and the pink hats and lack of class (lol!), and not on the absolutely monstrous, racist, sexist, undiplomatic, reactionary, mentally ill xenophobic vulgarian in the white house.
Is it possible to stop and think for a moment about why all those women might be upset?
By the way Munch, you cannot possibly attribute violence to the women's marches last Saturday. Millions of women marched peacefully. Do you have any reason to mention violence while discussing how you disapprove of this movement?
https://youtu.be/IvnH9YiViAc
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=CW-jyLex6Mo
Yeah, all I see here is peace and love.
Your video shows an anarchist group committing vandalism. They are no more a part of the march than they were of the inauguration.
The rest is people saying things you don't like. Is that really violence?
Millions of angry people marched all over the country. Millions. Literally millions. How many people were injured or had property damaged due to this "violence"?
Of course they are going to say hostile things. That's kind of the point. Is that violence?
Have you even bothered to think about what the marches are about without inserting your judgments into it? It sure doesn't seem like it.
Not all Muslims?
Quote from: Munch on January 27, 2017, 09:51:49 PM
Not all Muslims?
Are you asking me a question? Can you be a little clearer about what you are asking?
Trigger warning: graphic scenes of remonstrance. Viewer discretion is advised.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og2PV1tJuMs
Quote from: Mermaid on January 27, 2017, 09:50:54 PM
Your video shows an anarchist group committing vandalism. They are no more a part of the march than they were of the inauguration.
The rest is people saying things you don't like. Is that really violence?
I guess cherry picking works in other things beside the bible :)
QuoteMillions of angry people marched all over the country. Millions. Literally millions. How many people were injured or had property damaged due to this "violence"?
I'll take that denial and raise that cognitive dissonance for 20!
QuoteOf course they are going to say hostile things. That's kind of the point. Is that violence?
https://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=SktRYqJcI7w
QuoteHave you even bothered to think about what the marches are about without inserting your judgments into it? It sure doesn't seem like it.
Hehe, of course I have :)
A group of whiny losers who followed a disorganised march that was changed from its pressurised victory march to a protest group spearheaded by a woman who thinks having your vagina mutilated is A Okay :D
Here's one from my part of the country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSPV5pLmihw
Shameful behavior here. Extremely radical. Dangerous, too. I'd be scared to be anywhere near this crowd.
QuoteI guess cherry picking works in other things beside the bible :)
Holy. Fucking. Hypocrisy.
Edit:
Also...
Man, that is some horrible shit. That... er... hmmm... she bad mouthed Obama, I guess?
http://www.snopes.com/2017/01/25/womens-march-organizer-linda-sarsour/
Quote from: Munch on January 27, 2017, 10:23:45 PM
I guess cherry picking works in other things beside the bible :)
I'll take that denial and raise that cognitive dissonance for 20!
https://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=SktRYqJcI7w
Hehe, of course I have :)
A group of whiny losers who followed a disorganised march that was changed from its pressurised victory march to a protest group spearheaded by a woman who thinks having your vagina mutilated is A Okay :D
so that would be a resounding no.
Nice passive aggressive smiley though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE6q7JMH1yM
Sorry Pr, I think they already retreated to their safe spaces.
Shiranu and mermaid, we live in the internet age, it goes without saying that taking things at face value is something you can avoid. On this site, we constantly deliver some cold hard truths to visiting religious fly by posters about their faith, sometimes on a daily basis.
Don't be duped, analysis the thing your so adamant in defending for the strong flaws, don't ignore it just because the one your opposed to is awful, like trump. And don't just dismiss those bad ideals in this as if it's not part of it, because so far, the message this march could have been about, is already overshadowed by the things you want to pretend arn't part of it.
Ms Sarsour may not be a Muslim with a bomb strapped to her ... but she is Muslim. I don't have a problem with that, but a lot of Americans are hostile to Muslims ... with some justification. My mother still can't forgive Japan. Snopes didn't show that she wasn't Muslim. Also Snopes is a ... biased source ...
http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/16/snopes-facebooks-new-fact-checker-employs-leftists-almost-exclusively/
The Onion is much better. Facebook and other CIA assets can kiss my iPad.
The difference their Baruch, is that Japanese are a people, not an ideology, and it's the ideology this women's pushing for that goes against the principle a lot of these women want.
Maybe if they did, they might not be so quick to defend someone trying to push for it behind her curtain in the corner. Honestly if the wizard of oz was made today, you'd get someone playing Dorothy convinced the wizard really is the giant green head.
QuoteSorry Pr, I think they already retreated to their safe spaces.
There is no god and Karl Marx is his prophet.
Dogma doesn't have to be religious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHmmYDyyXXk&t=604s
I know not everyone likes TJ, but he brought up points about this I've making.
The funny thing is I didn't even know who Donna Hilton was until he brought it up, and now looked into it. So the representives of this march, is a woman thats wants sharia law pushed into the west, and another woman who's a convicted murderer, not just by accident either, but one who tortured and dehumanized her captive.
(http://boardofwisdom.com/cachetogo/images/quotes/205.png)
I will say this, the picture is slightly wrong; Munich has tought me something... just how annoying it is to sass off to people for doing something while you turn around and do the exact same thing.
Sorry mermaid, I think they have already retreated to their safe space.
Munich and pr, we live in the internet age, it goes without saying that taking videos at face value is something you can avoid. On this site, we constantly deliver some cold hard truths to visiting religious fly by posters about their faith, sometimes on a daily basis.
Don't be duped, analysis the thing your so adamant in defending for the strong flaws, don't ignore it just because the one your opposed to is awful, like radical SJWs. And don't just dismiss those good ideals in this as if it's they are not the overwhelming part of it, because so far, the message this march you say has been about, is only overshadowed, in your head, by the things you obsessively focus on and only watch media that confirms your bias, rather than looking at what the actual majority of people took from it.
Once again, funny how the things you are saying can with just a few words change accurately apply 100% to you as well. And I really don't mean that in a snarky way... I am trying to point out that you are literally doing the exact same thing.
Quote from: Munch on January 26, 2017, 10:49:35 AM
So in other words, your pushing your ideology on your daughter. Thats not a healthy thing to do. She doesn't have those things because she's a feminist, she has those things because the balance of political standards has equaled out in this time and place.
I dunno why I have to say it, but these group thinks are always unhealthy in the long run, because if you can't think outside the box, your be trapped in it. Maybe she wants to consider everyone else on the same level, unlike modern day feminists would do in claiming to want equality, but at the expense of anyone who isn't a feminist.
These group ideologies are as bad as any religion, because once the negative aspects overwhelm it, just like religions, any question of that group think being wrong induces rage, like a pissed off hydra. Its all well and good saying you want to protect women from trumps laws, but when you start to also let insidious ideals seep into the group think, not questioning them because your so focused on the single goal, then it becomes a problem.
Question what the fuck is happening around you, always question it, don't just accept it because you share a single minded goal.
I'm not pushing anything on my daughter other than perhaps being the best mother to my grandchildren she can be.
Feminists really get a bad rap. Suffragettes were feminists by any standard and yet nobody seems to want to acknowledge that.
You have women and men who want equality and as long as they don't band together and make a lot of noise they're not feminists? You really don't have to be a Gloria Stienam or Hanoi Jane to be a feminist nor get involved with silly marches and pretend to hate all men as portrayed by so many. Just demand that every man woman and child gets a fair shot at what most of us takes for granted.
That balance of political standards you speak of didn't happen in a vacuum and wasn't just handed over by the stroke of a pen by some nice guy.
Whether you or anyone else likes it or not those changes came about because of the hard work of feminists and many other groups.
The group think you speak of isn't the reason that you as a gay man can openly post about it or even walk the streets relatively safely.
Your bullshit is the same type of bullshit that tries to tell us that all older white men in the world are racist, mysoginistic republicans hell bent on only letting the filthy rich call the shots. Nothing could be further from the truth, but keep on thinking that all the problems in the world came about because some woman liked fresh fruit.
You, like many others have allowed others to define feminism for you. Congratulations. You fell hook line and sinker for group thinking.
The problem with all "movements" is the turd in the punch bowl. Once there is a floater in there, I am no longer interested in a glass of your punch ;-(
And yes, feminists have been legends in their own minds, for a long time. Gloria Steinem was CIA. Study Ms Margaret Sanger, and her eugenics against colored folk. Birth control, not for women in general, but to stop the colored folks from breeding. We still hear this all the time, from White folk. This is why some Whites have formed "Full quiver" families, to out breed the other tribes. I happen to agree, that poor folk shouldn't even consider having children ... but there are all these problems with prevention ... only one of which is irresponsibility.
Women's march, not as innocent as they seem ...
http://heatst.com/politics/exclusive-womens-march-protestors-booed-trump-hotel-staffers-who-aided-woman-having-heart-attack/?utm_content=buffer0bcab&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Quote from: Baruch on January 30, 2017, 07:12:40 AM
Women's march, not as innocent as they seem ...
http://heatst.com/politics/exclusive-womens-march-protestors-booed-trump-hotel-staffers-who-aided-woman-having-heart-attack/?utm_content=buffer0bcab&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
All the anti trump protesters will say is how the staff member was trying for attention or some shit like that. I honestly take my hat off to that man, he had no reason to even help, but clearly the protesters wouldn't even rush to save one of their own.
I work for a company with a greedy corporate businessman who only cares about money, who doesn't give a shit about the people who work for him, but to me it's just a job, my job doesn't define who I am, and clearly the same goes for the staff member at trumps hotel.
The Left would be very happy if Trump himself rushed out and stomped on the struggling protestor so all their biases could be confirmed. The Left are addicted to their negative emotions (so is the Right).
What stupid bitches and beta male pajama boys. Marching for rights they already have. No wonder liberals are so stupid.
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Quote from: Hydra009 on January 27, 2017, 10:31:43 PM
Here's one from my part of the country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSPV5pLmihw
Shameful behavior here. Extremely radical. Dangerous, too. I'd be scared to be anywhere near this crowd.
Horrifying.
and hydra, you should probably make a note that you were using sarcasm lol
Quote from: MooHamHead on January 30, 2017, 05:28:58 PM
What stupid bitches and beta male pajama boys. Marching for rights they already have. No wonder liberals are so stupid.
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Who are you, again? Make an intro thread, please
By the way. Out-of-the-gate negativity like that will not gain you many friends. I got my finger on the cage's trap door button right now, and you're standing right over that door. I advise not instigating.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 30, 2017, 05:57:09 PM
Horrifying.
and hydra, you should probably make a note that you were using sarcasm lol
Aww come on, that should've been crystal clear based on the content. I posted a peaceable and pretty normal protest and commented that it was "extremely radical" and "dangerous". What else could that possibly be but sarcasm?
Then again, I once had to explain on here that I was being sarcastic and had someone who still wasn't sure (usually I'm pretty good at judging my intentions, lol)
So I guess it's /sarcasm from now on.
But MooHamHead is such a fabulous handle.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 30, 2017, 05:59:20 PM
Who are you, again? Make an intro thread, please
By the way. Out-of-the-gage negativity like that will not gain you many friends. I got my finger on the cage's trap door button right now, and you're standing right over that door. I advise not instigating.
False attacks against good people is dumb. These marchers are idiots, crybabies, urban fools. They don't even know why they are marching. They are plain silly and dangerous They are the cult of hate.
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Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 22, 2017, 05:15:17 PM
I got semi-baited by a conservative last night about this asking "why are these women marching. What is this women's march about? anyone care to explain?"
And I told him how it was a march in celebration of women, but also a protest of the incoming legislative attacks on their rights.
.... and then.... he started to argue. when I mentioned how they seek to overturn Roe v Wade, because he asked for an example, afterwards, he goes " I don't want to have to fund people's recreational fucking. They should learn to keep their legs closed"
I knew the switch was coming, in his bait and switch, but I did it anyway... probably because I was aware that it was a bait and switch and knew to call him out on it and back out when it happened. It's bullshit. BUT. The women's march seemed to be a success. DC law enforcement reported ZERO arrests, and while I heard of a few arrests in other regions, the incidents were minimal. Beyond a success, imo. And very inspiring.
Womens rights are in no danger. In fact their lives will be better in everyway, like all Americans, now that the hate filled, racist, lying, corrupt, health care destroying America hater is gone..... Oops the little stuttering biatch could stay away for 10 days. No wonder his average approval rating was lower than Nixon or W.
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Quote from: Hydra009 on January 30, 2017, 06:39:49 PM
Aww come on, that should've been crystal clear based on the content. I posted a peaceable and pretty normal protest and commented that it was "extremely radical" and "dangerous". What else could that possibly be but sarcasm?
Then again, I once had to explain on here that I was being sarcastic and had someone who still wasn't sure (usually I'm pretty good at judging my intentions, lol)
So I guess it's /sarcasm from now on.
Lol I caught it. I'm just saying most people won't watch that video. If they aren't sarcasm savvy, like I know quite a few of people on here are, they won't catch on.
Ahhh balls. someone got to moohamad before me. Well played, other mod. Well played
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GFKpU6a8rM
Quote from: pr126 on January 26, 2017, 01:28:36 PM
Does the state forbid abortion? Should the state pay for your abortion?
Yes, they absolutely should. All abortions should be covered. This will save the government money, from having to give out less welfare, and teens should be able to get an abortion without their parents knowing.