KKK Grandwizard William Quigg Endorses Hillary

[Baruch]

If Clinton wins the nomination, you're voting for Trump!? Seriously?

I would vote for Hitler's reanimated corpse, before I would vote for any of the three Clintons ... and I am Jewish.  At least Hitler's reanimated corpse would do less damage.  I am an I, not a D, not an R.  I means I can think for myself ;-)

[dtq123]

I would vote for Hitler's reanimated corpse, before I would vote for any of the three Clintons ... and I am Jewish.  At least Hitler's reanimated corpse would do less damage.  I am an I, not a D, not an R.  I means I can think for myself ;-)

You really think that's a good idea...

[Baruch]

You really think that's a good idea...

I am too lazy to put <sarc> after much of my postings.  You have to read between the mad cackles.  Dead people can't be reanimated.  I = independent, which I indeed am.

[Jack89]

Why do people take the KKK seriously any more?  Their membership is less that 10 thousand, and that's being generous.  It's really not surprising that there would be such an endorsement though, in their hey day most were members of the Democrat Party. 

[widdershins]

Why do people take the KKK seriously any more?  Their membership is less that 10 thousand, and that's being generous.  It's really not surprising that there would be such an endorsement though, in their hey day most were members of the Democrat Party. 

To put that in context, though, the two parties today are vastly different than they were back in the day.  And it wasn't a real endorsement.  He was essentially calling her a lying snake who would do the opposite of what she said, and since he agreed with the opposite of what she said, he "endorsed" her.  It was sarcasm, essentially.

[Baruch]

To put that in context, though, the two parties today are vastly different than they were back in the day.  And it wasn't a real endorsement.  He was essentially calling her a lying snake who would do the opposite of what she said, and since he agreed with the opposite of what she said, he "endorsed" her.  It was sarcasm, essentially.

Then why isn't it sarcasm when a different KKK guy endorses Trump?  If one hates Hillary, then one answers one way.  If one hates Trump, then one answers the other way.  But I agree it doesn't matter ... the White Power movement in prisons is far broader and bigger than the old KKK.

[widdershins]

Then why isn't it sarcasm when a different KKK guy endorses Trump?  If one hates Hillary, then one answers one way.  If one hates Trump, then one answers the other way.  But I agree it doesn't matter ... the White Power movement in prisons is far broader and bigger than the old KKK.

It isn't sarcasm when the speaker isn't speaking sarcastically.  David Duke was not being sarcastic.  Quigg was.  Read their statements and see for yourself.  The sarcasm in what Quigg is saying is plain as day, there is no hint of it in what Duke said.  These two situations are different because, not because I love Hillary so much and hate Trump so much, but because they are actually different.

[Baruch]

It isn't sarcasm when the speaker isn't speaking sarcastically.  David Duke was not being sarcastic.  Quigg was.  Read their statements and see for yourself.  The sarcasm in what Quigg is saying is plain as day, there is no hint of it in what Duke said.  These two situations are different because, not because I love Hillary so much and hate Trump so much, but because they are actually different.

Hard to tell.  Lets waterboard the different KKK guys, so see where they are really coming from.  If we don't find out anything more ... no loss to us ;-)

[widdershins]

Hard to tell.  Lets waterboard the different KKK guys, so see where they are really coming from.  If we don't find out anything more ... no loss to us ;-)

How is it hard to tell?  Quigg's sarcasm is plain as day with, "I agree wholeheartedly with the OPPOSITE of what Hillary Clinton says and, since I know her to be a liar who cannot be trusted, saying the opposite of what she actually means, I support her".  I may be paraphrasing, but it's an accurate depiction of what he said.  That is clearly sarcasm.

Duke, on the other hand, never says anything whatsoever negative about Trump.  He gives what appears to be a genuine, glowing review of Trump's policies.  And he makes a point to state that he is not formally endorsing Trump to avoid stigmatizing him.  And, let's face it, Trump's deportation plan does appeal to racists.  That's not saying that Trump is a racist, nor is it saying that Trump's supporters are racist, just that deporting 11 million Mexicans is a message many racists want to hear.

As for the waterboarding comment, I know it was a joke, but I am a firm believer in free speech, even when I don't agree with that speech.  I am, after all, a member of one of the most hated minorities with one of the most unpopular messages in America (but thankfully growing quickly in popularity).  Though I in no way support the KKK and wouldn't shed a tear if all of them died horrible, painful deaths, I support their right to spread their hate speech because I value my right to spread common sense, a right many Christians would gleefully take away while proclaiming it to be a victory for free speech, somehow.

That being said, if you WERE to waterboard a few KKK members....I didn't see shit!

[Baruch]

You read people wrong on many points in your post, both regarding KKK and myself.  Given a chance, I would waterboard a lot of people ... and still not care if it were effective or not.  I don't take anything a KKK person says as a witticism, but you can next time you are undercover at one of their claverns.  Be sure and take a Black fellow with you, just to test their sense of humor.

[Jason Harvestdancer]

I don't think they're more different than they were before, I think they just hate each other more.

[widdershins]

I know this is an old thread, but I saw an article today which made me think of it.  Former KKK leader David Duke is running for office and has blatantly said essentially that Trump voters are obviously going to be his voters as well.

To reiterate (in all fairness), I had earlier said that David Duke (the subject of this article) had not formally endorsed Trump because he "knew better'.  In this article he does formally endorse Trump, so my reasoning was flawed there.

But on to the point of reviving this old thread, obviously trump's message resonates with racist people.  Does that mean all Trump supporters are racist?  Certainly not.  However, the comparison between Trump supporters and racism is not entirely unfair, on a general level.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

Baruch, your political opinions are almost as important as whether Brand X toilet paper changes its embossing pattern next week or not.  Actually I think most people care more about Brand X. The only real opinion you've given is that anyone who has ever run for any political office is horrible.

[Mike Cl]

Baruch, your political opinions are almost as important as whether Brand X toilet paper changes its embossing pattern next week or not.  Actually I think most people care more about Brand X. The only real opinion you've given is that anyone who has ever run for any political office is horrible.

APA, you and your TP embossing patterns.  I've seen you mention it twice.  Now you have piqued my interest and I think (after inspecting my own brand of TP) I'll start my own collection.  Can you imagine what it will look like when the walls of all three of my bathrooms are covered with different TP brands of embossing???  It is simply mind boggling.  When I'm finished I'll have to invite you over for a big dump!!!  Shit yea!!!!

[Baruch]

Baruch, your political opinions are almost as important as whether Brand X toilet paper changes its embossing pattern next week or not.  Actually I think most people care more about Brand X. The only real opinion you've given is that anyone who has ever run for any political office is horrible.

I view human beings as basically bad ... so of course all political candidates are bad, unless you have a dog or cat running for office ;-)