Started by SkyChief, March 10, 2016, 03:45:12 AM
Quote from: stromboli on March 10, 2016, 01:00:12 PMTo many atheist is a dirty word and often used in the pejorative. I went from theist to deist to atheist to then redefine myself as a secular humanist. Words are a thing with me, so specific definitions are big in my world. Secular humanist doesn't seem to carry the connotations atheism does, so I prefer to call myself that. You also get a WTF response when you identify as that, which opens doors for discussion. My personal thing. Carry on.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on March 10, 2016, 05:07:01 PMOne letter. Jeesh, I'm confused now.
Quote from: Mike Cl on March 10, 2016, 06:56:14 PMatheism is the lack of a belief in a god/gods. A deist has to believe in some type of deity. And a deity is a god. So, a deist is a form of theism. Simple.
Quote from: Baruch on March 10, 2016, 07:00:53 PMYes, in modern technical terms. People of prior generations would disagree.
Quote from: Mike Cl on March 10, 2016, 07:01:35 PMThen have them come visit me and we will talk about it. :)
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 10, 2016, 07:15:12 PMTechnically, it's reversed: theism is a form of deism, but yes. Absolutely
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 10, 2016, 02:41:23 PM Some sort of divine being who created the universe seems an awfully lot like a god.
QuoteIn fact, I'm pretty sure that's the very definition of a god.
QuoteAnd separating deism from deity (I suspect that they might have some sort of root word in common) seems like an exercise in futility.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 10, 2016, 04:43:30 PMDeity is just another word for god...
Quote from: Mike Cl on March 10, 2016, 06:56:14 PMAnd a deity is a god.
Quote from: aitm on March 10, 2016, 09:47:53 PMNot according to the OP definition. Lets stick with the OP here, after all the OP supplied the definition and it is NOT a god it easily is a janitor who spilled the cleaning material into a sink.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 10, 2016, 09:49:23 PMQuite simply, if it's not a god that the deist believes in, they aren't a deist. -Sent from your mom
Quote from: aitm on March 10, 2016, 09:51:50 PMQuite simply, you are wrong. A creator is no more god than you or I. The OP definition does not say the creator CAN intervene, it only suggests it won't which makes it irrelevant. What is so hard about this? A janitor is not a god, and you insist that a janitor is a god.