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Started by Jannabear, February 20, 2016, 01:45:37 AM

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Jannabear

I consider myself an extremely submissive girl in relationships, primarily in lesbian relationships, I'm not just speaking sexually, I mean in everyday life I'd prefer to have someone who takes charge and protects me.
I want to be held, not to be the one holding.
It frustrates me to see feminists and others dismissing submissive relationships as inherintly bad simply because it used to be enforced.

Dionysiou

It's only natural for a girl to want to be submissive.

SGOS

I don't know that it's natural for most women or not.  It doesn't really make any difference.  Everyone wants to be protected, not necessarily with brute force in physical situations, but it's always nice to be supported when you're having a bad day.  When your ego is threated, a little TLC is often helpful.

drunkenshoe

It's not up to others what's 'natural' for women or not.

Being a feminist has nothing to do with being dominant or submissive. I can be a feminist and submit to the man I love. Feminism is about letting me do what I decide to do, not what others think because it is natural for a woman. 
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Baruch

"Want to be submissive" ... maybe.  "Is submissive" ... not likely.  When there are strong gender roles, there are fewer conflicts, but more tension.  I automatically distrust "dominant" people myself.  It doesn't make it better if the dominant is a woman, though I am put in a more awkward position.  If a man is dominant, I just want to kill him ... naturally.  It wouldn't do to treat a woman dominant that way ... being hetero the attraction of the woman is strong.

That being said ... I am not particularly A-type, so I usually don't like taking charge, and I would like some emotional support also.  But usually people are so "needy" there is no opportunity for them to show emotional support for me.
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aitm

Quote from: SGOS on February 20, 2016, 02:55:27 AM
Everyone wants to be protected,

Indeed they do. Many realize the truth that there is no protection to be had. The best protection is to eliminate the most threats. I have often wondered if the people who go off and live alone in the hills or mountains do it not to be social pariahs but simply that they see their best protection is to escape from those things which present the most threats.
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Mike Cl

Quote from: Jannabear on February 20, 2016, 01:45:37 AM
I consider myself an extremely submissive girl in relationships, primarily in lesbian relationships, I'm not just speaking sexually, I mean in everyday life I'd prefer to have someone who takes charge and protects me.
I want to be held, not to be the one holding.
It frustrates me to see feminists and others dismissing submissive relationships as inherintly bad simply because it used to be enforced.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way you feel.  I think you should become just independent enough that you can assert yourself when you find you are in a bad relationship.  But your desires are yours and you have no reason to dismiss them as not right or bad.  If it works for you---then it works.  Being held is a good thing.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Mike Cl

Quote from: Dionysiou on February 20, 2016, 02:48:19 AM
It's only natural for a girl to want to be submissive.

Typically religious--judgmental and unforgiving.  you would not know what 'nature' is if it stepped up and slapped you up side your judgmental head.   
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

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Nonsensei

Quote from: Dionysiou on February 20, 2016, 02:48:19 AM
It's only natural for a girl to want to be submissive.

Its also natural for them to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen right? God damn you just cant get enough of that word. If you approve of it, its natural. If you don't its unnatural.
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All alone in desperation now the time has come
Lost inside you'll never find, lost within my own mind
Day after day this misery must go on

Shiranu

I was going to say... if you think girls are "naturally submissive"... then you frankly must not know very many women. The most bad ass and "get-what-they-want" people I know have all been women and not men.
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kilodelta

Relationships are more complex than dominant vs. submissive. Given certain situations, the better skilled or able can take the lead. In social situations where I don't know anyone, my wife leads. I'm rather awkward in those situations. But together we can get through that.

In decisions, one may defer or establish the choice based on who it impacts more or who is more qualified.

Also, support can be on an as-needed basis. If one person has a bad day at work, the other should be supportive no matter who "is stronger" in professional and high-stress environments. 

I just don't have any experience where I was dating or married to someone who was submissive in all aspects of our lives. It's situational.
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Quote from: Dionysiou on February 20, 2016, 02:48:19 AM
It's only natural for a girl to want to be submissive.
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Quote from: drunkenshoe on February 20, 2016, 05:49:51 AM
Feminism is about letting me do what I decide to do, not what others think because it is natural for a woman. 

Yes you can decide what to do, except that when it goes against the dogma gender theory sophistry you are just hurting women by perpetuating pathriarchal attitudes and should repent apologize for your oringinal sin internalized misogyny.


Theres no feminism, it is not just one thing, there's just feminists and their specifics ideas. If your feminism is giving women self determination, nice. But you are not the pope of feminism. And other feminists will tear you down when you defend porn stars and prostitutes. Those feminists that care more about their utopia than indivual freedom are the ones the OP is talking about.

Shiranu

And thus this bullshit begins again...
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