The ideological conflict on the feminst/liberal/progressive circles.

[mauricio]

Tell me about it.

Imagine how MLK Jr would react to seeing these "progressives" shoo away white allies.

MLK warned us about this, he said the opressed should be vigilant to not turn themselves into oppresors to enact vengeance on the white man rather than seeking harmony between the races.

[Hydra009]

I dare say, it appears to me that there are 5 women in the world who write about this stuff which is read by the other four and commented on by another 20 who happened to click on the link. The rest of the world goes about their daily lives surrounded by the buzz of their family and friends rather oblivious to the little prattle spouted by a few who think there is indeed a movement, when it was more of a fart.

Pssh, I wish it was only 5 women.  I don't have the figures, but I don't doubt that they are numerically small in the grand scheme.  But apparently, they have enough numbers to have a pretty strong presence on social media (their witch-hunt targets get quite a litany of hate) and tumblr.  They even have people in some mainstream publications and manage to get some airtime on TV as well.  Disproportionate influence to be sure, but influence nonetheless.

[mauricio]

Pssh, I wish it was only 5 women.  I don't have the figures, but I don't doubt that they are numerically small in the grand scheme.  But apparently, they have enough numbers to have a pretty strong presence on social media (their witchunt targets get quite a litany of hate) and tumblr.  They even have people in some mainstream publications and manage to get some airtime on TV as well.  Disproportionate influence to be sure, but a presence nonetheless.

They do as i shared some numbers in a previous post their numbers are no lower than 300k. And as you point out there are various big publications in which they hold influence. Like gawker, jezebel,salon, the guardian (fucking jessica valenti man) the huffpost, the mary sue, everyday feminism, feministing, we hunted the mammoth.

[Hydra009]

MLK warned us about this, he said the opressed should be vigilant to not turn themselves into oppresors to enact vengeance on the white man rather than seeking harmony between the races.

He also said to judge people by their character, not their skin color.  That's another lesson that apparently fell on deaf ears.

[aitm]

Pssh, I wish it was only 5 women.  I don't have the figures, but I don't doubt that they are numerically small in the grand scheme.

I suppose, the only place I have ever heard of such a "thing" is on this forum. My forays into the social world happens only 6 of the seven days of the week so perhaps they unite in a massive roil on that odd day I take a nap.

[mauricio]

I have even seen their influence spread into the legislation of my shitty third world country that loves taking the worst ideas of both sides of the political spectrum. On the same fucking day the congress rejected civil unions they passed a street harrasment law that criminalized specifically men from even looking at woman "the wrong way" which is not fucking defined and left to the discretion of the fucking accuser to define.

[mauricio]

I suppose, the only place I have ever heard of such a "thing" is on this forum. My forays into the social world happens only 6 of the seven days of the week so perhaps they unite in a massive roil on that odd day I take a nap.

Frankly this is a generational issue, the millineals are the ones in this fight on both sides. If you do not share the millineal browsing habits you have been spared from their bullshit, rejoice.

[mauricio]

I have even seen their influence spread into the legislation of my shitty third world country that loves taking the worst ideas of both sides of the political spectrum. On the same fucking day the congress rejected civil unions they passed a street harrasment law that criminalized specifically men from even looking at woman "the wrong way" which is not fucking defined and left to the discretion of the fucking accuser to define.

That law also made it so giving a game of thrones book to my 16 years old cousin as a gift should be punished with no less than 3 years in jail also known as shanky rapey town. Because of written sex scenes. Also an accusation by a women that you whistled at her, or looked at her too much is enough to get you into a public list of sex offenders. Yahoo!


The silver lining is that the police infrastructure of the country makes this laws meaningless because they cant police for shit.

[Hydra009]

They do as i shared some numbers in a previous post their numbers are no lower than 300k. And as you point out there are various big publications in which they hold influence. Like gawker, jezebel,salon, the guardian (fucking jessica valenti man) the huffpost, the mary sue, everyday feminism, feministing, we hunted the mammoth.

Not to mention the Atheism+ presence that has effectively divided the atheist community.  Steve Shives seriously floating the idea of policing the atheist community.  Dawkins getting disinvited by fellow atheists for linking to a video ridiculing a caricature of the more extreme feminists.  Etc.

And then there's Freethought Blogs:

[The Skeletal Atheist]

A thread about feminism and SJWs? There's no way this will turn into a shit flinging contest or a circle jerk.

[mauricio]

A thread about feminism and SJWs? There's no way this will turn into a shit flinging contest or a circle jerk.

I have had countless reasonable debates about this topic, sadly with drunken shoe it has never happened, because she dismissed me from the outset because apparently im a privileged white male and an american nationalist. Even though im a mestizo who lives in latin america and dislikes all forms of chauvinism.

[drunkenshoe]

Everything you write is again a very good demonstration of you are being clueless about real world and that all you 'know' is about internet media. You agree with her because she denounces the word feminism, not because you can understand her experience. You are living these 'issues' through a character designed and a side chosen by vloggers and bloggers who actually make money from this. 

It's a fact that IN THE US women who get loud about their opinion are threatened. THey ARE THREATENED by RAPE and DEATH. This happened. And still happening.
Do you have the basic intelligence to understand the nature of threatening someone for holding a conference, making a speech about her opinions? Or are you that much of a child that you think it is just nothing?

I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT WATSON OR SARKEESIAN THINK. If a woman cannot avoid millions of online attacks just because a group of men WERE OFFENDED by what they are saying, stop talking about how hostile and bitchy SJWs are OR how they are just acting out of being OFFENDED.

Shut the fuck up about the gender equality while you cannot provide a safe ground for someone to say their opinion about it out loud, while the whole fucking America CANNOT SHUT UP about how much of a 'freedom of speech' they have. Bullshit. You have colourfully painted, polished and marketed bullshit. And it makes money.

This is exactly what is going on the Middle East. How stupid someone needs to be to fool themselves into that it is something else when it happens in their own country? How stupid you need to be to ignore this and still go on with a fucking apologist rhetoric trying to make this look right somehow?


That's why there is no arguing point and that's why I dismiss you as a kid. Because you are a v/blog triggered angry kid.

[drunkenshoe]

I suppose, the only place I have ever heard of such a "thing" is on this forum. My forays into the social world happens only 6 of the seven days of the week so perhaps they unite in a massive roil on that odd day I take a nap.

[mauricio]

Everything you write is again a very good demonstration of you are being clueless about real world and that all you 'know' is about internet media. You agree with her because she denounces the word feminism, not because you can understand her experience. You are living these 'issues' through a character designed and a side chosen by vloggers and bloggers who actually make money from this. 

It's a fact that IN THE US women who get loud about their opinion are threatened. THey ARE THREATENED by RAPE and DEATH. This happened. And still happening.
Do you have the basic intelligence to understand the nature of threatening someone for holding a conference, making a speech about her opinions? Or are you that much of a child that you think it is just nothing?

I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT WATSON OR SARKEESIAN THINK. If a woman cannot avoid millions of online attacks just because a group of men WERE OFFENDED by what they are saying, stop talking about how hostile and bitchy SJWs are OR how they are just acting out of being OFFENDED.

Shut the fuck up about the gender equality while you cannot provide a safe ground for someone to say their opinion about it out loud, while the whole fucking America CANNOT SHUT UP about how much of a 'freedom of speech' they have. Bullshit. You have colourfully painted, polished and marketed bullshit. And it makes money.

This is exactly what is going on the Middle East. How stupid someone needs to be to fool themselves into that it is something else when it happens in their own country? How stupid you need to be to ignore this and still go on with a fucking apologist rhetoric trying to make this look right somehow?


That's why there is no arguing point and that's why I dismiss you as a kid. Because you are a v/blog triggered angry kid.

So after that whine are you feeling good now? How about some actual non irrelevant shit i can respond too about my actual claims? Come on my childish arguments must be easy peasy for a big girl like you.

[Mermaid]

Tune in next week to find out if Mauricio will ever stop whinging about feminists and SJWs. Next week on As The Forum Turns.