ORIGINS OF ALLAH AND THE QURAN

[Cocoa Beware]

Even if 100 different people were involved in each individual act of terrorism (instead of the usual 1 or 2 in reality) thats still less than 3 million Muslims out of a population of 1.6 billion. Just so we are clear on the maths of that, its about a tenth of one percent of Muslims.

No matter how many murky claims of clandestine financial support you try in insinuate, the undeniable reality is that the majority of Muslims aren't taking that part of the Quran seriously. Just like Christians who ignore the parts about stoning their kids to death for talking back, Muslims are not interested in going out and "slaying the infidel" so they just ignore that part or interpret it away.

Unfortunately there is still adherence to these achaic beliefs. Stoning still happens in parts of the world, and it is Muslims who partake in it.

Crimes for apostasy/homosexuality are still widely enforced, with the death penalty in some cases.

To claim they longer pay any attention to the barbaric aspects of their religion in any general sense is categorically false.

Theres never any news stories about those people. The people for whom Islam is nothing more than background music to their every day lives. Thats boring. Now, a psycho Imam demanding all "true Muslims" rise up and deliver death to the West? Thats sexy! The news can do a really nice "I KNEW IT, THEY REALLY ARE TRYING TO KILLS US" piece and get a ton of ad revenue as irrationally terrified people sit in their living rooms and wring their hands nervously, wondering if and when the next "highly organized" and "sophisticated" suicide vest attack will be near them.

The number of Muslims that take this shit seriously isn't even a drop in the ocean to the total number of Muslims on Earth. The number of victims of terrorist attacks isn't even a drop in the ocean to the total number of people on Earth or even the thousands of people who die every day from various causes. You see some guy blew himself up in a cafe and killed 12 people and you get all bent out of shape and spend 20 mins making a post about it but in that time 40 kids starved to death in Ethiopia and nobody gives a fuck. Shit like that is not even worthy of mention in our typical discourse.

Perhaps it is overblown to an extent in countries that do not have a large Muslim population, but I'm not sure you can say the same thing for countries where Islam is widely practised, as this is where a vast majority of such attacks occur.

Clashes pertaining to disagreements in the interpretation of religious doctrine are extremely bitter and have a terrible impact on many lives.

Typically, where Islam is more widely practised, there is more of this kind of violence. This is not insignificant.

There are way bigger problems on Earth that get virtually no play in the media. I'm teed of having my emotions manipulated for the sake of network ad revenue under the pretense of keeping us informed. I'm tired of focusing on a relatively insignificant issue to the virtual exclusion of any serious issue.

The success rate of terrorists when compared to their stated goals is 0%. I'm finished cowering in the corner, keeping a wary eye on everyone around me names Rashid just because Wolf Blitzer has a voice that could make a fluf story about girl scout cookies sound like World War 3 is coming.

Enough is enough.

Having people cow in fear is their goal, whether our media, unwittingly or otherwise, helps them to achieve that.

Ever since that fateful day where Rushdie was assigned bodyguards, what they have been doing is working.

The implications of being critical of other religions are typically much less dire, but with Islam you have this constant spectre of retaliatory violence.

Time and again we have been threatened and attacked for depicting Mohammed in the media, and now a lot of major outlets refuse to do so anymore.

This is especially true for Muslims who question the commonly held concensus, as they percieve it as treason, and they probably have a much better idea where to find these individuals.

It may be because so many of us have refused to acknowledge this elephant in the room because we refuse to discuss it and try to forget it's there, in particular our leaders, but their threats and acts of violence have actually been quite effective.

[Baruch]

The elephant in the room is, if you want to teach people how superior your country is, you need to invade it and colonized it ... just like the British Empire etc.  It was entirely a mistake perhaps, to not continue the full imperial system, no matter how many Gunga Dins we would have to slaughter.

These protestors in 1919 are just like Ferguson rioters ... shoot the buggers, huzzah!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE9_zB8k_lk

There were plans for sharpshooters to shoot the Occupy protestors ... and they have worse plans than that (crowd control heat rays etc).  We are all slaves now.  Of course if you are not armed, and don't indicate any hostile intent ... this indicates the degree of diabolical peasantry you are.

[pr126]

The success rate of terrorists when compared to their stated goals is 0%.

What are their stated goals?

By the way, 27712 terrorist attacks since 9/11 is a little more than zero.

But this is just one tool of jihad, the part that gets noticed.

Jihad by the sword (jihad bis saif) refers to qital fi sabili Allahi ([armed] fighting in the way of Allah, or holy war), this is the most common usage by Salafi and Wahhabi Muslims and the most ancient. For example, Sahih Bukhari (the pre-eminent Hadith collection of Sunni Islam) has ~200 references to jihad and 98% (~196) of them refer to it in the sense of armed warfare against non-Muslims{2}.

There are more ways to do jihad that gets little notice but still very effective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiwKx6MOYu0

[Baruch]

Missed your opportunity in the British occupation of India?

[pr126]

Missed your opportunity in the British occupation of India?

Just to let you know, I am an immigrant to the UK. From Eastern Europe.

[Baruch]

Just to let you know, I am an immigrant to the UK. From Eastern Europe.

But via Israel as a child ... I think you admitted.  Not that I will rag on anyone, not even Israelis.  But colonialism is so ... European (and Zionist too).  Just go occupy some country and take all their shit ... and stop looking down on the Nazis ... in Europe you are either a Nazi or a wannabe ... like Churchill.  Of course Americans are so different (I wish).  If they don't like you or you taking their shit, shoot them like the dogs they are.  This is what humanity is all about, not that humanism crap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJZIBx1fpUU

But then the Vikings (cousins of the Anglo-Saxons) improved the English bloodlines ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAtmPOs8q20

If the 7th century is relevant to Arabs, it is to English also

So how are the Anglo-Saxons treating you?

[pr126]

But via Israel as a child ... I think you admitted.

Admitted? Like someone confessing a crime?
Hmm.
But what has all this to do with the price of fish?

[Baruch]

Admitted? Like someone confessing a crime?
Hmm.
But what has all this to do with the price of fish?

Not much, only you left that little bit out.  I didn't get to choose where I was born either ... and immigration to a new country is great ... and yes there are differences between immigrants who want to conform, and those who don't.  Have you been Borged into watching Dr Who and having afternoon tea yet? ;-)  I have imagined immigration, at least as an American ex-pat ... because I know some of the stories of ancestors who left Europe for the US.  You have had an adventurous life, I would hate to see it end is such bitterness ... but this is not uncommon for older folks.  Go have a slice of Stilton for me.

[pr126]

Lived in the UK for 46 years now, fully assimilated.

I do like Stilton, but I like Brie better. The French import, not the local one.

[Nonsensei]

To claim they longer pay any attention to the barbaric aspects of their religion in any general sense is categorically false.

I didn't do that. We are specifically talking about the aspects of the Quran that demand the slaying of infidels and such. By the numbers, Muslims overwhelmingly ignore that commandment.

Having people cow in fear is their goal.

No it isn't. That is their method. Their goals are quite tangible. Destroy or overthrow the west. Spread the Islamic state across the world. Even short term goals like force x government to release y prisoner or force a government to reverse or implement a policy they want. 100% failure rate every time.

[Baruch]

Given Pr126's view of their goal, they have been 100% successful with him.  But again, a minuscule percentage of Britain.  Good thing he doesn't think their goal is to eat all the chicken curry in London, or he would have to go to every take out and spy on their diabolical eating habits ;-(

[pr126]

The ability of people to deny an unpleasant reality can be impressive.

[Baruch]

The ability of people to deny an unpleasant reality can be impressive.

We have plenty of unpleasant reality in the US too.  Since the US is bigger than GB ... is it impressive?  In our immoral gene splicing, we combined a donkey with an elephant ;-(

[pr126]

We have plenty of unpleasant reality in the US too.  Since the US is bigger than GB ... is it impressive?  In our immoral gene splicing, we combined a donkey with an elephant ;-(

You are referring to the Reps and Dems I presume?

[Baruch]

You are referring to the Reps and Dems I presume?

Yes, the literal combination would have to be in GB, where mad scientism is the norm.  It is the Island of Dr Moreau.