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Started by pr126, November 07, 2015, 12:19:36 AM

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pr126

School district bans drawings of religious leaders after Acton students draw Muhammad
QuoteAn Acton school district superintendent said Wednesday he has banned depicting religious leaders after middle school students drew images on a history worksheet of Muhammad, which is forbidden in Islam.

Following a parent’s complaint and media inquiries, Acton-Agua Dulce Unified School District Superintendent Brent Woodard told a reporter Tuesday he would consult with an expert on Islam to determine whether a vocabulary handout given to a 7th-grade history class at High Desert School in Acton was offensive. The worksheet, Vocabulary Pictures: The Rise of Islam, listed words such as Quran, Mecca, Bedouins and Muhammad with spaces for students to draw pictures or images related to those words.

“I have directed all staff to permanently suspend the practice of drawing or depiction of any religious leader,” Woodard said Wednesday afternoon in a text message. “I am certain this teacher did not intend to offend anyone and in fact was simply teaching respect and tolerance for all cultures.”
Good call. Imagine the shitstorm if it got out that they are drawing Muhammad!

Whew! That was close. 

*religious leaders (plural). No, just one in particular. We all know which one, don't we?
We have learned the lesson.


Baruch

They shouldn't be studying any religion in any public school at all.  I agree with French laicity ... in the public domain.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

pr126

Quote from: Baruch on November 07, 2015, 12:25:57 AM
They shouldn't be studying any religion in any public school at all.  I agree with French laicity ... in the public domain.
There is an exemption for Islam. Have a word with ACLU. See what they think.

Shiranu

#3
NOTICE: THIS SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY SITE REPORTING THIS AS HAPPENING, JUST LIKE THE BOOK BURNINGS IN GERMANY THAT NO ACTUAL NEWS ORGANIZATION OR LOCAL REPORT SAID EXISTED. TAKE THE ARTICLE ABOVE WITH A GRAIN O SALT.



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Now, assuming it is true...

Quote...which is forbidden in Islam.


Again, assuming Islam is a monolithic entity.

No it isn't. A Qu'ran scholar like yourself should know that. It is prohibited in mainstream Sunni Islam, but amongst Shia Muslims it is common and has been in Persian art for hundreds of years. But it is only in hadiths, which as you should know are what keep Islam from being a monolithic entity and instead many different interpretations, where it is justified as something to be banned.

I am torn on how I feel about this; if it was Christians complaining about the portrayal of Jesus (as some Puritans, Calvanists and others would do if they existed in any sizable sense nowadays) , what would we do? Most likely we would pull the assignment and say it was a bad idea as well.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

pr126

#4
Shiranu wrote:
QuoteI am torn on how I feel about this; if it was Christians complaining about the portrayal of Jesus (as some Puritans, Calvanists and others would do if they existed in any sizable sense nowadays) , what would we do? Most likely we would pull the assignment and say it was a bad idea as well.
I'll make it easy for you.
Which group is more likely to go ape and threaten you with violence? And even carry it out?
Muslims or Christians?


Isn't it a pity there are no larger fonts available? Mind you, there are still color options.
Or a stupid gif that you are so fond of.
Grow up.

Sheesh.

BTW, I googled the title: About 6,340 results (0.71 seconds)

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Quote from: pr126 on November 07, 2015, 01:27:35 AM
Shiranu wrote:I'll make it easy for you.
Which group is more likely to go ape and threaten you with violence? And even carry it out?
Muslims or Christians?


Isn't it a pity there are no larger fonts available? Mind you, there are still color options.
Or a stupid gif that you are so fond of.
Grow up.

Sheesh.

BTW, I googled the title: About 6,340 results (0.71 seconds)
Maybe. But that isnt the point. The point is if there are any independent reports of this. (Which wouldn use the same headline)

pr126

QuoteBut that isnt the point.

The point is, that the content is against your preconceptions, therefore it is deemed invalid.

Thanks for playing.

Shiranu

#7
Quote from: pr126 on November 07, 2015, 01:27:35 AM
Shiranu wrote:I'll make it easy for you.
Which group is more likely to go ape and threaten you with violence? And even carry it out?
Muslims or Christians?


Isn't it a pity there are no larger fonts available? Mind you, there are still color options.
Or a stupid gif that you are so fond of.
Grow up.

Sheesh.

BTW, I googled the title: About 6,340 results (0.71 seconds)

Don't fret, there are larger fonts yet to come! As for my gifs, I am heart broken you do not appreciate them... truly.



On googling;
I got 62,000(ish) results when I copy-pasted the title. Lets take a look at the 2 first pages and see which one's are actual news organizations, shale we?

1. Dailycaller... no.
2. Dailynews... no.
3. Eagnews... no.
4. Truthrevolt...no.
five (my # won't show up): libertynews...no.
6. reddit... no.
7. fcmat.com...no.
8. vladtepesblog...no.

You get the point; you don't miss anything from 9-18... only Breibart, patriotnow and liberals101 stand out.

I can site you 100,000 pages proving evolution is a myth, but without a SINGLE valid source that would prove nothing. And when the search box is dominated by only right wing/anti-Islam agenda websites like Breibart, patriotnow and truthrevolt, you have to excuse me if the fact that 62,000 pages of bullshit coming up doesn't sway me too much.

The other fact that people actually defend and buy your boogieman bullshit is even more pathetic. But while we laugh and point, then foam at the mouth and scream at creationists who post their bullshit here, when it's someone on our side we just nod our head and say, "Yup, yup, preach it brother!" and start declaring that anyone who disagrees is just some dirty liberal (and that is all the justification they need to close their ears)... from a strictly anthropological/sociological standpoint, it is a quite interesting phenomenon to watch.

If being a grown up like yourself means buying every bullshit article I see as the absolute truth, and lying to people's faces as you have done time and time again... or that to be a grown up means I have to agree with my group and how dare anyone ever oppose us!... then I am not interested, thanks.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur


Shiranu

#9
Edit: fair enough, daily is legitimate and presents it with some actual journalistic integrity. However that still doesn't change the point that the only people who apparently making this a deal are hard-right blog "news sites".

Nor does it change the fact that we would do the same thing for Christians...

...or for that matter, someone who is lactose-intolerant or gluten-free. I guess those gluten-free people are some dangerous terrorists to evoke that type of fear...
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

pr126

#10
Shiranu wrote:

QuoteEdit to your edit: So you want me to start contacting blogs about why they aren't legitimate news sites. Sorry, I have better things to do with my life, thank you though.

Apparently you feel strongly enough about it that you argue the toss just for the hell of it. 
Over sized fonts. Gifs. Long paragraphs.

Ignoring it is not an option.

Shiranu

#11
Quote from: pr126 on November 07, 2015, 03:37:02 AM
Shiranu wrote:

Apparently you feel strongly enough about it that you argue the toss just for the hell of it. 

Ignoring it is not an option.

Uh, yes... people can visit those sites all they want. It's when they start being presented as truth in a site that claims to care about the truth that it becomes an issue. Especially that German one though... that was downright disgraceful on your part and pathetic on the people who ate it up. It's one thing to wrap yourself up in your world of delusion, it's another to try to ensnare others in it. I don't have a hope in hell you are going to change, or even the people who buy your fear mongering... but I would feel like an asshole to just ignore the preacher on the side of the street yelling, "The end is near, fear your neighbour for he will destroy your culture, rape your women and bring upon the Armageddon!". To ignore such rhetoric has been historically disastrous.

If someone came in here and started posting article after article about how atheists are evil and want to kill us because some hard right blog "newsites" said so... do you think the reaction would be "just ignore it"? Really nao?

"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

pr126

OK. You have better things to do with your life, but...

Shiranu

Quote from: pr126 on November 07, 2015, 03:42:30 AM
OK. You have better things to do with your life, but...

But it's 2:44 and I am playing CIV, and it doesn't take much effort to type while the next turn is loading.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

pr126

#14
Oh, FFS.

Carry on. Whatever floats your boat.

Edit: What the hell is CIV?