Sarah Palin was right: Is Russia Set to Spark WW3?

[josephpalazzo]

She's back?!


http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/sarah-palin-was-right-look-where-russia-is-building-a-huge-military-base/

[Bruno]

The far right loves to scare people into falling in line with them by making mountains out of molehills, or in this case a gigantic new arctic base where one actually already existed in the first place.

Back in the Soviet days the military deployed an observation post and a radar station at this same location. With the fall of the USSR, all the troops were eventually withdrawn from the location leaving behind only a civilian meteorological station.

Now after decades of desolation and abandonment the  military base is being rebuilt. Apparently engineers from the Russian Northern Fleet began working on this as far back as 2013, cleaning up rusty barrels and broken vehicles that were abandoned on the island, and constructing among other things, a landing strip for supplies to be airlifted rather than air-dropped.

It's hardly been a secret.

And not really the start of WWIII.

Sarah Palin is an idiot, the folks who actually listen to hear and buy into her convaluted logic are worse, and there are too many of them here in the US. This reality scares me.

(Need proof Palin is missing something, explain what she is saying here)

"So up there in Alaska, across the way Russia," Sarah Palin said. "You know there is a name for this taking advantage of America. There is a Russian name for that. And it is called 'fortushka.' And that means Obama's window of opportunity. So as Obama leads from behind the skirt of his right-hand man, Valerie Jarrett, then it's up to Congress to close that window. He may propose. You dispose, Congress. You gotta be in it to win it because we want peace. With unapologetic mighty red, white, and blue, will have peace."
Seriously she had to be drunk when she said this, it makes absolutely no sense whatsover.

[TomFoolery]

"On the 80th parallel on an island called Alexandra Land which is located between the Barents and Kara seas, Russia has built a gigantic base they’re calling the “Arctic Trefoil.” With 14,000 square meters of space it can house up to 150 soldiers for up to 18 months. "

I think they're playing fast and loose with the word gigantic if they think 150 soldiers is a large enough strike force to ignite WWIII.

The U.S. has a larger presence than you'd think in Alaska and the Arctic Circle as well, but we have for decades.

[SGOS]

Sometimes, Sara Palin makes Michele Bachman sound like a political Isaac Newton.  Right now she has relegated herself to the class of absurd clowns occasionally joining Fox News to say ridiculous things.  BUT REMEMBER, she was once the Governor of the State of Alaska.  Either the people of Alaska are all nuts, but I've spent two years there, and I don't think they are (easily misled maybe, but not nuts).  OR Palin has acquired some strange brain disease that is causing cognitive degeneration.

[Blackleaf]

I'm not worried. I'm already prepared for the future.

[Baruch]

For John Birchers, the mere existence of any other country than America, is a deadly threat to America.  They define paranoia, medically.  That and the American people do a lot of "self medication".

[stromboli]

Seriously doubt that Russia wants a war. We have them outgunned like 6 times over. We bled them dry during the Cold War, and Putin is a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. He likes to prod other people, and he has no respect for Obama.

And anything Sarah says will be doubled down even stupider by her daughter.

[jonb]

The biggest threat to world peace remains American paranoia, as it has been for the last 70 years.

[Baruch]

But in that movie, Peter Sellers, playing the British military attache is the very model of reasonableness ... and playing Dr Strangelove (strangely before Kissinger became famous) is the very model of insanity ;-)

A very great movie from that time (Dr Strangelove is a parody of Failsafe) is Seven Days In May ... which is prophetic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWL06waOAGw

The production of this movie was promoted by President Kennedy just days before he was assassinated.  Wonder why?

Dr Strangelove ... early James Earl Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSbPqin3L6E

I lived at the end of this era, and it was very real, I was personally involved ... like Stromboli who posts here.

I was told someone who had flown a B52 flight simulator, that flying at high subsonic speed close to the ground was quite the gas!  The B52 flies like a harbor tug on steroids.

Failsafe ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oicYUhgff7Q

This was based on the serious book "Thinking The Unthinkable" ... which was about fighting and winning a nuclear war.

[jonb]

Excellent films.
In Britain there was the BBC documentary drama 'The war game' which was banned when it was made in 1965 and only eventually shown in the eighties after much lobbying.

https://youtu.be/VWr7omWJHyo

[Shiranu]

"So up there in Alaska, across the way Russia," Sarah Palin said. "You know there is a name for this taking advantage of America. There is a Russian name for that. And it is called 'fortushka.' And that means Obama's window of opportunity. So as Obama leads from behind the skirt of his right-hand man, Valerie Jarrett, then it's up to Congress to close that window. He may propose. You dispose, Congress. You gotta be in it to win it because we want peace. With unapologetic mighty red, white, and blue, will have peace."

[jonb]

https://youtu.be/OacVy8_nJi0

[Baruch]

Koyaanisqatsi ... the first part is an Apollo launch.  The rest of it is a Titan launch, that is aborted.  Back in the day, I had a yard tall model of the Saturn V/Apollo in my bedroom.  And at one time I was involved with the range safety plan for a Titan launch.  But that was back in the day before I knew that the US was insane ... childhood and youth still covered my awareness.

[stromboli]

I spent 4 years aboard a FBM missile submarine, the "sharp end of the spear" exactly one (1) radio message away from nuclear war. We were at battle stations on my first patrol for 4 days when the Chinese (not the North Koreans, as stated) captured the Pueblo. Nothing like sitting there and watching the Radioman chief shuttling messages to the captain on the Con.

Try going to battle stations missile twice a week, simulating nuking a few million civilians in a foreign country you'll never visit. Fun shit, if you want to get some perspective, try that for a bit.

[jonb]

As a boy I could walk the twelve or so miles from my home into central London almost entirely through bomb damaged land which had been left after the war and had not been rebuilt. The aftermath of war was only to evident to me from an early age.
Although it was only spoken about in whispers and much of it was swept under the carpet there were lots of men of my fathers and grand fathers generations wandering about with what would now be called post traumatic syndrome, as were many women. It was not uncommon to meet people like a few of my fathers friends who had no discernible features on their faces due to burning, etc etc.