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[pr126]

tl;dr

[drunkenshoe]

tl;dr

It says, "stop wallowing in your bullshit".

[pr126]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIcltV7r-nM

[drunkenshoe]

Awww.

pr:

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[josephpalazzo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIcltV7r-nM

How true are these allegations? I don't live in Europe. I haven't travelled there since 2008, so I have no idea of what's going on. That there would be flares between the new arrivals and their hosts is quite understandable, but how widespread are those crimes which is claimed in that video?

[pr126]

Search Youtube, blogs. The MSM will not report everything.

If I post any, I will be accused of posting biased "right wing" sources.

[josephpalazzo]

Search Youtube, blogs. The MSM will not report everything.

If I post any, I will be accused of posting biased "right wing" sources.

Forget about the Islamic apologists on this forum. They have little credibility. Keep posting whatever you find.

[pr126]

Forget about the Islamic apologists on this forum. They have little credibility.

Little credibility?
You must be joking. They are the establishment, the media, the academia  they are running the country.  - (into the ground)

[drunkenshoe]

Forget about the Islamic apologists on this forum. They have little credibility. Keep posting whatever you find.

Aww. You don't get to call anyone an 'Islamic apologist' just because what they put out there disturbs your masturbation sweety.

pr, has been posting the same videos over and over again for a long time now. Every time he does, he gets his ass handed to him and then starts to act like a toddler slapped around. So he is much like a member from the senile old men spending his time quota. He earned that place. But I just realised, actually he is serving to highlight the bullshit of people like you.

pr, claims his country is going to bankrupcy because of migrants keep claiming welfare. It's a fucking lie. They are a small group in UK welfare claimants and it has no effect on welfare budget.

On the other hand, Britons alone are the biggest welfare and benefit getting group in the EU. But if you ask them, they are above the EU and oh they want out. Pffft.

Pat Condell's propaganda hold this much truth:

This is the reason lying under the so called 'Swedish rape epidemic':

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372

The Julian Assange extradition case has put Sweden's relatively high incidence of rape under the spotlight. But can such statistics be reliably compared from one country to another?

Which two countries are the kidnapping capitals of the world?
Australia and Canada.

Official figures from the United Nations show that there were 17 kidnaps per 100,000 people in Australia in 2010 and 12.7 in Canada.

That compares with only 0.6 in Colombia and 1.1 in Mexico.

So why haven't we heard any of these horror stories? Are people being grabbed off the street in Sydney and Toronto, while the world turns a blind eye?

No, the high numbers of kidnapping cases in these two countries are explained by the fact that parental disputes over child custody are included in the figures.
If one parent takes a child for the weekend, and the other parent objects and calls the police, the incident will be recorded as a kidnapping, according to Enrico Bisogno, a statistician with the United Nations.

Comparing crime rates across countries is fraught with difficulties - this is well known among criminologists and statisticians, less so among journalists and commentators.

Sweden has the highest rape rate in Europe, author Naomi Wolf said on the BBC's Newsnight programme recently. She was commenting on the case of Julian Assange, the Wikileaks founder who is fighting extradition from the UK to Sweden over rape and sexual assault allegations that he denies.

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Is it true? Yes. The Swedish police recorded the highest number of offences - about 63 per 100,000 inhabitants - of any force in Europe, in 2010. The second-highest in the world.
This was three times higher than the number of cases in the same year in Sweden's next-door neighbour, Norway, and twice the rate in the United States and the UK. It was more than 30 times the number in India, which recorded about two offences per 100,000 people.

On the face of it, it would seem Sweden is a much more dangerous place than these other countries.
But that is a misconception, according to Klara Selin, a sociologist at the National Council for Crime Prevention in Stockholm. She says you cannot compare countries' records, because police procedures and legal definitions vary widely.

"In Sweden there has been this ambition explicitly to record every case of sexual violence separately, to make it visible in the statistics," she says.
"So, for instance, when a woman comes to the police and she says my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record - one victim, one type of crime, one record."


The thing is, the number of reported rapes has been going up in Sweden - it's almost trebled in just the last seven years. In 2003, about 2,200 offences were reported by the police, compared to nearly 6,000 in 2010.

So something's going on.

But Klara Selin says the statistics don't represent a major crime epidemic, rather a shift in attitudes. The public debate about this sort of crime in Sweden over the past two decades has had the effect of raising awareness, she says, and encouraging women to go to the police if they have been attacked.

The police have also made efforts to improve their handling of cases, she suggests, though she doesn't deny that there has been some real increase in the number of attacks taking place - a concern also outlined in an Amnesty International report in 2010.

"There might also be some increase in actual crime because of societal changes. Due to the internet, for example, it's much easier these days to meet somebody, just the same evening if you want to. Also, alcohol consumption has increased quite a lot during this period.

"But the major explanation is partly that people go to the police more often, but also the fact that in 2005 there has been reform in the sex crime legislation, which made the legal definition of rape much wider than before."

If I punch somebody and the person eventually dies, some countries can consider that as an intentional murder, others as a manslaughter
Enrico Bisogno, UN statistician

The change in law meant that cases where the victim was asleep or intoxicated are now included in the figures. Previously they'd been recorded as another category of crime.


So an on-the-face-of-it international comparison of rape statistics can be misleading.

Botswana has the highest rate of recorded attacks - 92.9 per 100,000 people - but a total of 63 countries don't submit any statistics, including South Africa, where a survey three years ago showed that one in four men questioned admitted to rape.
In 2010, an Amnesty International report highlighted that sexual violence happens in every single country, and yet the official figures show that some countries like Hong Kong and Mongolia have zero cases reported.

Evidently, women in some countries are much less likely to report an attack than in others and are much less likely to have their complaint recorded.

UN statistician Enrico Bisogno says surveys suggest that as few as one in 10 cases are ever reported to the police, in many countries.
"We often present the situation as kind of an iceberg where really what we can see is just the tip while the rest is below the sea level. It remains below the radar of the law enforcement agencies," he says.

Naomi Wolf has also written that Sweden has the lowest conviction rate in Europe.

She was relying on statistics from a nine-year-old report, which calculated percentage conviction rates based on the number of offences recorded by the police and the number of convictions. But this is a problematic way of analysing statistics, as several offences could be committed by one person.

Police car in Sweden

Swedish police encourage rape victims to come forward

The United Nations holds official statistics on the number of convictions for rape per 100,000 people and actually, by that measure, Sweden has the highest number of convictions per capita in Europe, bar Russia. In 2010, 3.7 convictions were achieved per 100,000 population.

Though it's still the case, as Wolf pointed out to the BBC, that women in Sweden report a high number of offences - and only a small number of rapists are punished.

So there's a lot that official statistics don't tell us. They certainly don't reveal the real number of rapes that happen in Sweden, or any other country. And they don't give a clear view of which countries have worse crime rates than others.

Rape is particularly complex, but you'd think it would be straightforward to analyse murder rates across different countries - just count up the dead bodies, and compare and contrast.

If only, says Enrico Bisogno. "For example, if I punch somebody and the person eventually dies, some countries can consider that as an intentional murder, others as a manslaughter. Or in some countries, dowry killings are coded separately because there is separate legislation."
What's more, a comparison of murder rates between developed and less developed countries may tell you as much about health as crime levels, according to Professor Chris Lewis, a criminologist from Portsmouth University in the UK.

The statistics are to some unknown degree complicated by the fact that you're more likely to survive an attack in a town where you're found quickly and taken to a hospital that's well-equipped.

[pr126]

LOL Shoe, you shure know how to make friends and influence people. Way to go.

[josephpalazzo]

Aww. You don't get to call anyone an 'Islamic apologist' just because what they put out there disturbs your masturbation sweety.

When was the last time you ever said anything against Islam? OTOH, I have attacked Islam, Christianity and any religious bogus that has appeared on this forum. So tell me, why should Islam be treated any differently?

[drunkenshoe]

LOL Shoe, you shure know how to make friends and influence people. Way to go.

Who told you I'm out ot make friends? 

Next time, insulting a believer right away in your first post about his mental capacity, try to remember your own.

[drunkenshoe]

When was the last time you ever said anything against Islam? OTOH, I have attacked Islam, Christianity and any religious bogus that has appeared on this forum. So tell me, why should Islam be treated any differently?

Thanks for proving my point. I do not have to attack anyone to CRITICISE their religious vision or the delusion they live in. I can do 10 times more damage than underlying the simple real life reasons and facts behind their superstition, instead of getting into some crass, hatred full rat race, citing their holly book which they have no idea about or firing my mouth to them for their cultural traits.

I also do not attack Christians or Jews or Buddhists..etc. OR their religions. Attacking some magical fairy tale and expressing hatred is about the worst thing you can do against religion. It doesn't produce anything, radicalise people and most importantly, it is not criticism, if you can wrap your head around anthropology and every other related fields 101. It's just jerking off and anonymously pouring your hatred to feel good.

I also certainly do not feel the need to make a SHOW on my nonbeliever position to get approval from you -or anyone else for that matter- to feel in the 'club'. I'm 40, not 15. I have been a nonbeliever as long as I have known myself, because it is the only rational and neutral positioin, not because I felt hatred to muslim or christians or other religious groups. I can interpret and evaluate information and knowledge, think about it myself AND come to a conclusion independently from the herd.

I cannot get satisfied with spewing toxic anger, hyping/lying; masturbating with how one religion is the cause of the world problems. If I could, I probably would. Must be a pink, happy existence. I live in a muslim country, none of you could do it better than me and feel as righteous about it. I would be pretty much liked here I guess, eh?

But it is not real, it is a fucking delusion and it is useless. It's just masturbation. Fap fap fap.

[pr126]

You have a lot of anger there, Drunkenshoe. 
If you do not like my posts, you have a few options.

I will not change my views, far  too old for that. If you are trying to "teach" me, you are wasting your time.

Naturally we have different world views, we can share them without name calling, or insults that you are so freely distributing.

If you think that the crowd here are of lesser intellect, and they are beneath you, then perhaps this forum is not for you.

Unless you enjoy kicking people in the nuts (figuratively speaking) as a pastime.

Calm down and try to be less obnoxious.