Muslim Leaders 'Expose ISIS' Lies’ In Digital Magazine

[Shiranu]

Don't worry about Shiranu. He has accused me of the same "crimes".

If the shoe fits...

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By the way; the two threads that I've posted in that would have reference to you would be the "Child makes clock..." and the last PR article about book burnings. In the first one you continually slandered someone over an article that extremely twisted the truth and out-right lied about the position someone held... it was not just me but also several people who generally lean more towards your side of the fence that pointed out the article was inaccurate slander... something you refused to ever accept, all while saying, "I only care about the truth".

The other that would have reference to you comes from, "Fahrenheit 451", where you posted....

PC gone amock.

Notwistanding that some members of this forum would do the same if they had that power.

...even though the "article" had zero evidence it ever happened outside of a disturbingly hideously designed blog and "news" sites like "The Daily Sheeple" and Infowars, as well as several logical contradictions; ("We are not sure if it was a book burning or not actually, but it was definitely public and everyone saw it!" and the fact that there are no pictures from the event).

Shiranu  has proven himself to be a staunch Islamic apologist.

Yes, it's much easier to call me that than admit your source was wrong, or that you never cared if it was true to begin with and just wanted to get people riled up. Personal responsibility can be a hard burden to bear, but I do believe you can do it someday.

He is the poster child of the LEFT.

"I'm not partisan like everyone else, I just only post links from far-right sites like Breibart and Infowars and accuse anyone who disagrees with me of being a dirty leftist liberal! But I only do that because I am not partisan and am equal minded!"

Take the log out of your eye before judging me. You are just as much a partisan hack as anyone else here but don't have the integrity to admit it. You don't give a shit about the truth if it disagrees with your agenda, yet speak a mighty fine tune of, "I only care about the truth!".

Your actions paint a very different picture. Just accept who you are, you will be much happier once you do.

[Shiranu]

I always wonder why those 1.5 billion peaceful moderate Muslims not protesting, demonstrating, speaking out against the tiny minority of jihadist who are clearly misunderstanding the peaceful teachings of Islam?

Any thoughts? 

Probably the wrong question.

Why aren't the hundreds of millions of peaceful, moderate African Americans protesting, speaking out against the tiny minority of gangsters and drug dealers who give the community a bad name?

Why aren't the hundreds of millions of peaceful, moderate Conservatives not protesting, speaking out against the tiny minority of mass shooters, bombers, and other's who abuse minorities when they misinterpret Conservatism?

Why aren't the hundreds of millions of peaceful, moderate police officers protesting, speaking out against the tiny minority of cops who murder innocent people when they misinterpret their duty?

Why aren't the hundreds of millions of peaceful, moderate soldiers protesting, speaking out against the tiny minority of soldiers who have committed war crimes when they misinterpreted their orders?

Probably because 1.5 billion people shouldn't have to apologize for their actions of a fringe group, particularly one that was propped up by the West... we created the problem, and then we expect them to apologize for it? Really?

Do we atheists need to start hitting the street and apologizing for our fringe radicals as well?

[pr126]

Shiranu wrote:

Probably because 1.5 billion people shouldn't have to apologize for their actions of a fringe group, particularly one that was propped up by the West... we created the problem, and then we expect them to apologize for it? Really?

I think you are got this wrong.
No mention of wanting an apology.
Athough there are plenty of reasons for that. Like 14 centuries of conquest and 270 million corpses.

No, the "moderates" should endeavor to stop the carnage and destruction in the name of Islam, if Islam is really as peaceful and noble as they telling us it is.

They should protest "not in my name" to all the murders, beheading, rapes, tortures if it is not part of Islams teachings.

But they can't do that.

For the simple reason that Islam does teach murder, and mayhem because it is in the Quran and the sunna.

[josephpalazzo]

(1) By the way; the two threads that I've posted in that would have reference to you would be the "Child makes clock..."


(2)The other that would have reference to you comes from, "Fahrenheit 451", where you posted....


(3) Take the log out of your eye before judging me. You are just as much a partisan hack as anyone else here but don't have the integrity to admit it. You don't give a shit about the truth if it disagrees with your agenda, yet speak a mighty fine tune of, "I only care about the truth!".

LOL

(1) As evidence were revealed bit by bit, the case of the child building a clock turned out to be a complete sham. It's amazing you're still defending your position on that.

(2) My comment on Farenheit451-thread was an opinion about PC. As usual, you can't distinguish when one someone is expressing an opinion from a fact.

(3) And your tirade to silence pr from expressing his opinions on this forum is well known.

[Shiranu]

LOL

(1) As evidence were revealed bit by bit, the case of the child building a clock turned out to be a complete sham. It's amazing you're still defending your position on that.

(2) My comment on Farenheit451-thread was an opinion about PC. As usual, you can't distinguish when one someone is expressing an opinion from a fact.

(3) And your tirade to silence pr from expressing his opinions on this forum is well known.

*sigh*

1. You have zero understanding of why people were upset, do you? The clock being a disassembled and reassembled piece mislabeled as "built" by the kid is irrelevant. It's as irrelevant as Treyvon Martin having marijuana  in his system or "dressing like a thug" and yet you do the same thing; that somehow makes the actions of the authorities, the people who actually matter and who are being judged, justified.

Regardless of if he made the clock, dissembled it or bought it from a gay hooker from Somalia is irrelevant to why people care about the story. People care about the story because the school and the police failed to act in a way that one would expect of public officials and peace keepers.

But that is really irrelevant to the fact that you bold face lied about his father, isn't it? You just want to change the subject than admit you repeatedly posted misinformation from a right-wing fuckfest and portrayed it as the truth, and then when called on it by several members continuously deflected and bolstering how all you care about is "the truth".

You only care about YOUR truth; "the truth" could go fuck itself for all you seem to care.

2.

PC gone amock.

Right. PC gone amock... except it NEVER HAPPENED. It's like me saying in a "serious" post about how the Ferengi are taking over the American government, "Conservatives gone amock!".

Tell me, what was PC gone amock in that story? And several members of the forum would do the same... gee, that doesn't at all imply that several members would do the same thing (of an event that never happened).

I'll address the opinion section in the next...

(3) And your tirade to silence pr from expressing his opinions on this forum is well known.

Right. Having a different opinion now equals "silencing x from expressing their opinion.".

You know, if I had been calling mods to ban PR, that would be one way of silencing him. I have been organizing a campaign to have him thrown on ignore lists, that would be silencing him from expressing his opinion. Stating my own opinion on the other hand is not silencing him.

The sheer idiocy of what you just said paired with, "as usual, you can't distinguish when one someone is expressing an opinion", is frankly fucking staggering. You cannot apparently recognize opinion from, "OH MY GOD, HE IS TRYING TO OPPRESS ME", then want to judge me?

Take your own log out of your eye then come back before you make more of an idiot of yourself. And please, stop trying to silence me before I report you to a moderator, k thanks.

[josephpalazzo]

People care about the story because the school and the police failed to act in a way that one would expect of public officials and peace keepers.

That's your opinion. AFAIC, the police and the school acted appropriately. To each his own.

2.

It's like me saying in a "serious" post about how the Ferengi are taking over the American government, "Conservatives gone amock!".

The funny part is that you do exactly that.

Right. Having a different opinion now equals "silencing x from expressing their opinion.".

It is when you bring up that pr is lying just about every times he post on this forum , when in reality, he is expressing his opinions based on his experience and knowledge, and particularly if he links websites that are known to be of the right inclination.  Your knee-jerk reaction is to dismiss outright without even taking an iota of time to really examine the issue. You're not in for discussion but to suppress.

[pr126]

josephpalazzo wrote:

That's your opinion. AFAIC, the police and the school acted appropriately. To each his own.

Plus it should send a message to any would be prankster not to be a dick.

The media had a field day howling about mistreating a member of the Master Race for no good reason.  The shame!

[Baruch]

I disassembled my father's watch when I was a boy, but I never got it back together again.  Good thing it was an old watch and I got prior permission ... otherwise I would have been in trouble with my father, not with the PC police.

[josephpalazzo]

I disassembled my father's watch when I was a boy, but I never got it back together again.  Good thing it was an old watch and I got prior permission ... otherwise I would have been in trouble with my father, not with the PC police.

Your father didn't call a press conference ranting that you were mistreated because of your religion?!?... oh wait, wrong story...

[Baruch]

Your father didn't call a press conference ranting that you were mistreated because of your religion?!?... oh wait, wrong story...

My father was an atheist, so that would be hard to imagine ;-)

[SilentFutility]

My father didn't torture or kill, and neither do I.  You should be happy about that.  But you miss my point ... if you think emulating a fictional or legendary figure from the distant past ... means anything.  What if someone emulated a manga villain ... would you blame the manga?  Or is it just another ComicCon psychosis?

And yes, it is unwise and un-compassionate to harm people or the environment, yet we do it all the time, collectively.

It means something when nearly a quarter of the world's population emulates someone or something.

I don't for a second think that emulating someone or something or following an ideology absolves someone from personal responsibility. I'm saying that an ideology can have very toxic elements even if good people use cognitive dissonance to ignore them.

There were plenty of otherwise good people who were supporters of the Nazi party in 30s Germany, there are plenty of people who follow various religions who are not bad people, but that doesn't change the ideology itself and what is written in the books. Just because a christian chooese to ignore much of the old testament whilst still calling themselves christian doesn't mean that the old testament doesn't have some pretty horrible things in it, for example.

[Baruch]

"if good people use cognitive dissonance to ignore them" ... excellent!  But then Pr126 implies the same.  People do this all the time, to deal with complexity, to triage their situation when in crisis, to support their own delusions or deceits.  I don't know if there are any "good" people, but you are on the trail of something that is universal.  Well, that and cognitive harmony ;-)  One of the primary aspects of psychology is "paying attention" vs "ignoring".  Add "selective memory" and "selective forgetting" and you will hit pay dirt.

Though it is possible that if a large percentage of people have a particular habit or trait ... it is probably very close to what is really going on in people's heads ... though expressed in cultural norms and personal idiosyncrasy.

[Draconic Aiur]

You know the Islamphobes and racists on this board like pr are going to try to spin this into something sinister

Ive actually seen Muslims shit up close  and I can say the culture is based off their religion which is baffling terrible. Why the fuck are you defending Muslims?

[Baruch]

Some First World people have a guilty conscience, and mistakenly believe that had they been in their grandparent's shoes, they wouldn't have done all that militant colonialist stuff.  So they are actually narcissistically trying to not be their grandparents.  Or it could be just regular conscience ... they think they don't want to do nasty things to anyone ... but might not be aware how over time how futile that is.

And yes, some cultures have regressive aspects, like foot binding in Old China.  But I am not sure I want to go all Rudyard Kipling about it.

[Draconic Aiur]

my grandparents were an atheist good ol boy, an mental hospital reject, an reverend bigot, and a handicapped shrew what do you want from me