Studying Islamic beliefs is EVIL

[Munch]

Right. A major element of human culture should not be studied, because what good is studying the cultures of humans anyways?

Might as well just get rid of anthropology all together, besides maybe archeology and the other biological anthropologies. Could get rid of sociology, psychology and philosophy while we are at it too...

Forgive my dry British wit.

Of course I understand how religions and the cultures around it are a study of history. You can't learn about most wars in the world without learning about the religious background behind these events, especially in cases of different sects and how they war with one another. Hell I studied greek mythology for years.

[doorknob]

I don't feel we should waist our time studying religion. I think that same time would be better spent doing or learning just about anything else. A good example of something better to learn about would be science.

[stromboli]

I don't feel we should waist our time studying religion. I think that same time would be better spent doing or learning just about anything else. A good example of something better to learn about would be science.

In my case I think of it as knowing the enemy. I have a fair understanding of Mormonism and Christianity because I studied my way out of both of them. I know more about their religion than they do.

[Munch]

I've learned more about the bible after becoming an atheist then before becoming one.

[Shiranu]

@Munch: fair enough, just didn't catch it.

I don't feel we should waist our time studying religion. I think that same time would be better spent doing or learning just about anything else. A good example of something better to learn about would be science.

No. Just no. The liberal arts are simply put just as important to the human experience as science is.

[Youssuf Ramadan]

In my case I think of it as knowing the enemy. I have a fair understanding of Mormonism and Christianity because I studied my way out of both of them. I know more about their religion than they do.

^^^^ This.  It's a good thing to study religions so we know what the hell we're talking about when we discuss them.  Plus, knowing a fair bit about religion makes it a damn sight easier to troll the shit out of the fundies.  I'd rather see a fundie owned by being beaten up with their own theology rather than some retarded dick-jousting contest where nobody knows a damn thing.

I don't feel we should waist our time studying religion. I think that same time would be better spent doing or learning just about anything else. A good example of something better to learn about would be science.

No reason you can't do both.  Objective knowledge of both isn't a problem.

[josephpalazzo]

Contemporary religion has the potential of exposing the absurdity in the beliefs  which religion, any religion, is based on. That's why the parents in the OP strongly oppose the teaching of contemporary religion.

[1liesalot]

I studied world religions in middle school, in the Bible belt of all places. We studied Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, as well as some brief details on Native American religion. The Christianity segment went by pretty fast because it was just assumed that most students were already well acquainted with the the various beliefs of Christianity.

In the Islam section we didn't read the Koran or anything like that, we just learned about the 5 pillars and the call to prayer. We learned various terms like mosque, minaret, iman and the like.

I don't see the big deal, it's not like they were trying to convert us or anything.

The fucking call to prayer is an intrusion and an abomination. Fuck off, I say.

[Baruch]

The fucking call to prayer is an intrusion and an abomination. Fuck off, I say.

Mostly from what I have heard in videos ... the muezzin's audio equipment doesn't do justice to the beauty of Arabic.  On the other hand, it is more intrusive than a carrillion from a local church.

[doorknob]

I still stand by my opinion. I don't see that learning about religion has much value in life other than possibly when arguing or debating and even then it isn't a necessity. If you want to learn about it in your free time fine you are free to waste  your life. Other wise it shouldn't be taught in schools and very little time should be wasted on it.

[Youssuf Ramadan]

I still stand by my opinion. I don't see that learning about religion has much value in life other than possibly when arguing or debating and even then it isn't a necessity.

If you don't learn anything about it, how can you evaluate whether it has any worth or not?  One needs to 'know' about something before a judgement can be made, right?

If you want to learn about it in your free time fine you are free to waste  your life. Other wise it shouldn't be taught in schools and very little time should be wasted on it.

The way things are at the moment, I think it is reasonable to teach 'about' religion and what other people believe in order to understand where other people are coming from.  It has been said that people often fear what they don't understand, and I agree with that to a degree.  I certainly don't think 'religious instruction' is appropriate in schools.  That crap should be a matter for the home, if at all. In the fullness of time I would like to see both disappear and religion in its entirety disappear around the U-bend of history.  Sadly, it ain't going to happen any time soon.

[pr126]

There is a difference in learning about Islam, the untarnished real Islam which ISIS practices, and the kind of Islam that is taught in schools which is dawa (proselytizing), indoctrination.
 
Islamic indoctrination taking place in Georgia public schools

So if one wants to know about Islam, the schools or media is not the place for it. You are on your own to sort out the reality from the wishful thinking or lies.

But yes, learning about Islam is strongly recommended. Knowledge is power.

Find out what Islam has in store for you. Ignore it at your peril.

[Youssuf Ramadan]

I think faith schools are wrong. End of. It's the 21st century FFS.

[1liesalot]

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https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-mp-immediate-release-for-uk-pensioner-karl-andree-who-360-lashes-over-saudi-wine?recruiter=37154795&rp_sharecordion_checklist=control

[Abdukadir Cadde]

Islam was revealed to all human being. You believe it or you go to hell. You don't believe me, right? I know you dont, you need to leave it alone. Why are you judging about what you literally don't understand?

You people live like animals, not thinking at all. Acting like you were brought to the world to just eat and die just like Animals.

Tell me, how are you different from animals if you have no the mind to, at least,  recognize it's creator?

If you don't believe, that is your problem. He never needs either of us; We need him. He knows how to reward who believes him and also how to punish the disbelieves.

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