Studying Islamic beliefs is EVIL

[josephpalazzo]

[pr126]

Actually it is a damn good idea to study Islam. Learn what Islam has in store for unbelievers, kaffirs.
Not likely that they would teach that in schools!

They have 3 choices: Convert, become a dhimmi or die.

The Third Choice

In the classical Islamic ideology of conquest, the first choice offered to non-Muslims was conversion to Islam; the second choice was the sword; and the third was surrender. Mark Durie's innovative book exposes the history and ideology of surrender - the 'Third Choice' - which has determined the lived reality of non-Muslims - known as 'dhimmis' - living under Muslim rule. Durie grounds his analysis of the dhimmi condition in the teachings of Islam and the life of Muhammad. His ground-breaking analyses show how the ideology of the terms of surrender, known as a 'dhimma' pact, determines life for non-Muslims under Islamic dominance. The worldview of dhimmitude, he argues, offers indispensable keys for understanding current trends in global politics, including the widening impact of sharia revival, deterioration of human rights in Islamic societies, jihad terrorism, recurring patterns of Western appeasement, and the increasingly fraught relationship between migrant Muslim communities in the West and their host societies.

[josephpalazzo]

Indeed, studying comparative religion is a good idea, in particular Islam and its practices. But that is perceived by some Christians as another attempt to persecute them. They can't get out of their bubble.

[Sargon The Grape]

I had this exact same assignment back in 2004 when I was in 7th grade social studies. Wasn't a big deal then. Don't see why it would be a big deal now. It's important to know the basics of what other people believe; not that I'd expect fundies to understand this.

[pr126]

In a nutshell, Islam is a death cult.
As for its practices, they are the Arab pagan rituals as it was performed by the pagan Arabs centuries before the invention of Islam by Muhammad.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

I studied world religions in middle school, in the Bible belt of all places. We studied Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, as well as some brief details on Native American religion. The Christianity segment went by pretty fast because it was just assumed that most students were already well acquainted with the the various beliefs of Christianity.

In the Islam section we didn't read the Koran or anything like that, we just learned about the 5 pillars and the call to prayer. We learned various terms like mosque, minaret, iman and the like.

I don't see the big deal, it's not like they were trying to convert us or anything.

[Baruch]

I studied world religions in middle school, in the Bible belt of all places. We studied Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, as well as some brief details on Native American religion. The Christianity segment went by pretty fast because it was just assumed that most students were already well acquainted with the the various beliefs of Christianity.

In the Islam section we didn't read the Koran or anything like that, we just learned about the 5 pillars and the call to prayer. We learned various terms like mosque, minaret, iman and the like.

I don't see the big deal, it's not like they were trying to convert us or anything.

That is exactly what the parents and ministers are afraid of ... they regard all education as propaganda, both pre-college and college levels ... and that the only propaganda taught should be their own propaganda.  So of course, nothing should be taught, except curricula endorsed by the First Baptist Church etc.

I find comparative cultural study, including comparative religion, to be one of the most valuable forms of education.  There are a lot of people out there, who aren't just like you ... and yet they go about their lives day by day.  The cross-pollination of ideas, is one of the great advantages of real American strategy.

[pr126]

The problem is that the true nature of Islam is hidden.

Islam 101

[Baruch]

So is the Freemason founding of the USA ;-)  I know the secret handshake, and you don't!

[pr126]

So is the Freemason founding of the USA ;-)  I know the secret handshake, and you don't!

Except the Freemasons don't behead, rape, subjugate or enslave non Freemasons.

[Munch]

Studying religion is fine, like how you would study a history of serial killers, or campy horror movies. That said it shouldn't be in any curriculum

[stromboli]

So is the Freemason founding of the USA ;-)  I know the secret handshake, and you don't!

I know the secret handshake also. The Mormons stole it for their temple rites.

[Baruch]

Joseph Smith was a Freemason, before he "discovered" Mormonism ;-)

Just saw an expose on Benjamin Franklin.  Did you know he provided cover for a doctor-dissectionist at his London home, and that the bones of the people who were experimented on (were they all dead first?) were in the basement, and they still are there, they have exposed a square hole in the floor so you can see part of them.  Over 100 years later, it was still illegal to be a dissectionist in GB.  He could have been the original H H Holmes, who murdered people to provide skeletons for medical students.  On the other hand, Freemasons were also dangerous revolutionaries .. behind the American Revolution and the French Revolution ... indirectly causing the death of millions.

[Shiranu]

Studying religion is fine, like how you would study a history of serial killers, or campy horror movies. That said it shouldn't be in any curriculum

Right. A major element of human culture should not be studied, because what good is studying the cultures of humans anyways?

Might as well just get rid of anthropology all together, besides maybe archeology and the other biological anthropologies. Could get rid of sociology, psychology and philosophy while we are at it too...

[josephpalazzo]

That is exactly what the parents and ministers are afraid of ... they regard all education as propaganda, both pre-college and college levels ... and that the only propaganda taught should be their own propaganda.  So of course, nothing should be taught, except curricula endorsed by the First Baptist Church etc.

It's a case of "my invisible friend is better than your invisible friend".