Texas teenager arrested after a homemade clock was mistaken for a bomb

[josephpalazzo]

Yeah. Sure. And the same goes for the United States of America and its policies. They have been trying to do that longer than Islamist extremists everywhere around the world. More power, more resource, more more more everything; invade, destory; kill and make that an industry and a job for your citizens.

That's why after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the US turned around and told every country: surrender or we will nuke you... oh wait, that never happened...

Sorry, but that has to be stopped too. USA policies have fucked the world up for its own benefit and profit for a long time.

Yes, the US did screw up. But to paint a wide brush over all American citizens is quite amazing on your part. Indeed, let us forget that many have opposed the actions of their government. They don't count.

'America' will be a completely different country in the near future

I agree.

will whine like the white Christians do right now.

I have very little in common with the Christians. I despise them as much as I despise Muslims. They get equal treatment.

But your 'Ä°slam is coming to get USA' paranoia is amusing.

Glad to have entertained you.

[drunkenshoe]

Joseph, I was talking about USA policies, NOT American people. And with 'kill and make that an industry and a job for your citizens' I meant how is the militarism in your country designed with those domestic and intenrational policies so it would work. It's a paid job. People get paid to travel to the other side of the world to invade and annihilate. Mercenary, hence the industry.

When I said 'like white christians' I meant people in your position then will be in theirs. Your opinions pretty much point to that.

USA doesn't need to threaten anyone with nukes. It's doing/has done a better job with many other ways. And you know that very well.

Overall, I was saying something good and saying 'let's look at it from this way'. So calm down. And let's drop this.

[josephpalazzo]

Joseph, I was talking about USA policies, NOT American people. And with 'kill and make that an industry and a job for your citizens' I meant how is the militarism in your country designed with those domestic and intenrational policies so it would work. It's a paid job. People get paid to travel to the other side of the world to invade and annihilate. Mercenary, hence the industry.

I think there is a misconception, not only on your part, but many throughout the world that the US is in to create an empire. Most Americans are driven by capitalism, free enterprise and free trade. These people are very good at making money, and so of course, they see socialism/communism as bad since it's on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Now take Steve Jobs who took is manufacturing part of his business to China. For the detractors, he was exploiting the Chinese since they have low wages, low job security, and so on. If you had asked him, he would have said he was bringing jobs to a poor country, lifting their standard of living. Who is right? Depends on your point of view. Yes in that pursuit of the all-mighty dollar, the US often screwed up, but their intentions were never to enslave people, but rather free them with the naïve perception that they will embrace democracy and freedom which in that frame of mind means capitalism, free enterprise and free trade. Contrary to that wish, more often than not, it backfired as greed and corruption have a way of defeating your best intentions. Now that doesn't explain every action that the US has undertaken in the last 50 years. There were different administrations, with different plans. And to go into this would require a book of several hundreds of pages, not suitable for a post on an internet forum.

But thanks for the US IS OUT TO CONQUER THE WORLD. That was very entertaining.

[Mike Cl]

I think there is a misconception, not only on your part, but many throughout the world that the US is in to create an empire. Most Americans are driven by capitalism, free enterprise and free trade. These people are very good at making money, and so of course, they see socialism/communism as bad since it's on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Now take Steve Jobs who took is manufacturing part of his business to China. For the detractors, he was exploiting the Chinese since they have low wages, low job security, and so on. If you had asked him, he would have said he was bringing jobs to a poor country, lifting their standard of living. Who is right? Depends on your point of view. Yes in that pursuit of the all-mighty dollar, the US often screwed up, but their intentions were never to enslave people, but rather free them with the naïve perception that they will embrace democracy and freedom which in that frame of mind means capitalism, free enterprise and free trade. Contrary to that wish, more often than not, it backfired as greed and corruption have a way of defeating your best intentions. Now that doesn't explain every action that the US has undertaken in the last 50 years. There were different administrations, with different plans. And to go into this would require a book of several hundreds of pages, not suitable for a post on an internet forum.

But thanks for the US IS OUT TO CONQUER THE WORLD. That was very entertaining.

Thank you Ayn Rand.  Most amusing.  pure capitalism is simply pure at heart.  It's the people who screw it up.  Well, Karl Marx would tell you the same about his brand of communism.  It is pure at heart.  It's only the people who screw it up.  Same with all the religions of the world--they are all pure at heart. 

As an example, the US went into Iraq for profit.  Period.  The political message was for expediency--that was a corporate driven decision.  I don't care if you label it imperialism or not.  It is still greed driven.  Which is what unchecked capitalism will get you--greed.  There is not perfect system.  All need to be checked.   

[pr126]

Some people are saying that Islam has no power, nothing to worry about.
Yet, it has changed the world in a way that we could not imagine it 20 years ago.

The evidence is for all to see, hear, or read about, unless one is willfully deaf blind and dumb.

Does any one think this will just blow over and everything will return to what it was? NO.

Europe is being over run by migrants. Will the USA escape this invasion?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbI4CFa9fpk

[aitm]

But your 'Ä°slam is coming to get USA' paranoia is amusing. 

Well you have to admit, even you, that watching what Islam does to countries they do occupy is less than a stellar social success for all involved. So being a tad overzealous to prevent this may seem ridiculous to some. But then again, Turkey may be falling before our eyes and it will be too late to be overzealous then.

[josephpalazzo]

Thank you Ayn Rand.  Most amusing.  pure capitalism is simply pure at heart.  It's the people who screw it up.  Well, Karl Marx would tell you the same about his brand of communism.  It is pure at heart.  It's only the people who screw it up.  Same with all the religions of the world--they are all pure at heart. 

As an example, the US went into Iraq for profit.  Period.  The political message was for expediency--that was a corporate driven decision.  I don't care if you label it imperialism or not.  It is still greed driven.  Which is what unchecked capitalism will get you--greed.  There is not perfect system.  All need to be checked.   

Ayn Rand had little to do with US policies. Ask Ron Paul, and his son, Rand Paul. And it's a good thing. Ayn Rand is pure trash. And so are the political platforms of the these two.

I guess you overlooked the words "naïve perception". Read it again.

[drunkenshoe]

I think there is a misconception, not only on your part, but many throughout the world that the US is in to create an empire. Most Americans are driven by capitalism, free enterprise and free trade. These people are very good at making money, and so of course, they see socialism/communism as bad since it's on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Now take Steve Jobs who took is manufacturing part of his business to China. For the detractors, he was exploiting the Chinese since they have low wages, low job security, and so on. If you had asked him, he would have said he was bringing jobs to a poor country, lifting their standard of living. Who is right? Depends on your point of view. Yes in that pursuit of the all-mighty dollar, the US often screwed up, but their intentions were never to enslave people, but rather free them with the naïve perception that they will embrace democracy and freedom which in that frame of mind means capitalism, free enterprise and free trade. Contrary to that wish, more often than not, it backfired as greed and corruption have a way of defeating your best intentions. Now that doesn't explain every action that the US has undertaken in the last 50 years. There were different administrations, with different plans. And to go into this would require a book of several hundreds of pages, not suitable for a post on an internet forum.

But thanks for the US IS OUT TO CONQUER THE WORLD.

Conquer? Have I ever used the word CONQUER in any of my post about USA policies. NO.

Because, when you can divide, mess up and suck the resource, and manipulating and crippling their own economies, installing dictators and playing war games IS FAR MORE PROFITABLE than CONQUERINGing the world. Capitalism works for the powerful and the rich.

Also it is hard to convert people to your culture when you invade their countries and kill them in masses. Guess why.

And you are unblievably naive.

That was very entertaining.

Yeah and I wish you didn't miss it.

[drunkenshoe]

Well you have to admit, even you, that watching what Islam does to countries they do occupy is less than a stellar social success for all involved. So being a tad overzealous to prevent this may seem ridiculous to some. But then again, Turkey may be falling before our eyes and it will be too late to be overzealous then.

Ah come on, do you relly believe islamists can get any influencial power in the US, aitm?

Yes Turkiye may fall. However, people already did get overzealous -and I mean the seculars- and that translates to far right nationality in that 'heat' (fear) and trust me it is not different  than the other bullshit.

[drunkenshoe]

Ayn Rand had little to do with US policies. Ask Ron Paul, and his son, Rand Paul. And it's a good thing. Ayn Rand is pure trash. And so are the political platforms of the these two.

I guess you overlooked the words "naïve perception". Read it again.

Then why didn't you skip it and get to what he is really saying. Capitalism. How is that working for ya?

[Mike Cl]

Ayn Rand had little to do with US policies. Ask Ron Paul, and his son, Rand Paul. And it's a good thing. Ayn Rand is pure trash. And so are the political platforms of the these two.

I guess you overlooked the words "naïve perception". Read it again.

I overlooked nothing.  Maybe you should ponder your own 'naive perception.'

[josephpalazzo]

Conquer? Have I ever used the word CONQUER in any of my post about USA policies.

No but it's your underlining point of view as you next paragraph indicates,

Because, when you can divide, mess up and suck the resource, and manipulating and crippling their own economies, installing dictators and playing war games IS FAR MORE PROFITABLE than CONQUERINGing the world. 

Yep, there goes the word CONQUERINGing. Yep, but the US does it but differently than say, the Romans. I get it.

Capitalism works for the powerful and the rich.

No kidding.

Also it is hard to convert people to your culture when you invade their countries and kill them in masses. 

No kidding.

And you are unblievably naive.

Yep, you've got that right.

[josephpalazzo]

I overlooked nothing.  Maybe you should ponder your own 'naive perception.'

Why don't you get to the point, asshole.

[aitm]

Ah come on, do you relly believe islamists can get any influencial power in the US, aitm?

There is that golden nugget of a old quote in part: give them an inch...

Here is what I think is going to happen. Within a few years, there will be another attack that is going to trigger Bubba, BillyBob, Jethro and the rest of their redneck buddies and people looking like Muslims are going to start being gunned down in the street, and  mosques all over the country are going to be up in flames. Compared to a few of us in here that you think are "phobes" you ain't seen shit yet.

[drunkenshoe]

There is that golden nugget of a old quote in part: give them an inch...

I didn't get a word from this. Sometimes you forget that I am not a native with Americanish.

Here is what I think is going to happen. Within a few years, there will be another attack that is going to trigger Bubba, BillyBob, Jethro and the rest of their redneck buddies and people looking like Muslims are going to start being gunned down in the street, and  mosques all over the country are going to be up in flames. Compared to a few of us in here that you think are "phobes" you ain't seen shit yet.

First of all, I honestly, don't think people here are 'phobes' or believe that they would support any of that shit. We are talking in a forum. May be I am naive about that, dunno.

Secondly, I actually said similar things, including white christian nutjobs (scenarios) like in the past in this forum and I was blamed with 'hating Americans' and seeing them as 'murderers' over all. And what you are saying is not a surprising a bit.

Anyway, just 'pray' that Turkiye wouldn't fall, because if here becomes the 'inhabitable shit hole' you always think it is and I don't die, I may have to run away to the USA. You wouldn't want that would you? If a sense similar to shivery comes to you, it could mean I stepped on US soil. I was offended you didn't feel it before.