Texas teenager arrested after a homemade clock was mistaken for a bomb

Started by drunkenshoe, September 17, 2015, 07:22:27 AM

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Shiranu

Quote from: aitm on September 19, 2015, 09:01:25 PM
Yeah, and you always, "after the fact" take great umbrage against people who have taken on more responsibility than you care to. You talk like you can, but it takes you a month to work up the courage to talk to a girl. Putting you in charge of protecting anything would be a disaster. You take great delight in besmirching people willing to take on the challenges of protecting people while you sit on the side complaining they can't do anything right. Get off your horse punk, oh who am I kidding, you don't have the balls to get on a horse.

The execution was sloppy, but I will give you a B for effort. You faded really bad after the initial insult and I give that ending jab a F-minus for sounding like it came from a James Cameron take that was left on the cutting room floor.

If your going to play the role of the butthurt, grumpy old man who takes things way to personally... I recommend more practice. I have seen you spewing this for several weeks now and your form is just all sorts of sloppy.

So, now that little pissing match is out of the way, do tell... What part of my post was made up drivel.
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aitm

A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust


CrucifyCindy

Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on September 20, 2015, 12:08:59 PM
Relevant video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=469&v=aGit-XltUB4

Islam is the one culture that is blowing up shit around the world? O rly?

You guys are really funny. But ok I play. 'Murica! Fuck yeah! Woohoo 'Murica! Kill them Satanist Commie Mooslims!
“Rational thought is a failed experiment and should be phased out.”
 William S. Burroughs

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Sargon The Grape

Quote from: CrucifyCindy on September 20, 2015, 01:04:13 PM
Islam is the one culture that is blowing up shit around the world? O rly?

You guys are really funny. But ok I play. 'Murica! Fuck yeah! Woohoo 'Murica! Kill them Satanist Commie Mooslims!
I didn't say I agreed, I just wanted to save everyone the trouble of digging through aitm's article in order to find the video.
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aitm

A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

CrucifyCindy

“Rational thought is a failed experiment and should be phased out.”
 William S. Burroughs

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Poison Tree

My sophomore year of high school (at a religious boarding academy) it was discovered that one of my class-mates was building explosives in his dorm room. The police came in, guns drawn, and apprehended him outside the dorm--he started to run, they tackled, cuffed and carried him off. Not only did they evacuate the boys dormitory, the administration building (which was adjacent) and the gymnasium (which was maybe 50 feet away) but also the girls dormitory and the church, both of which were more than 400 feet away. Everyone had to leave on foot because no one was allowed to start a car on campus. The bomb squad came in and removed the device, put it in a bomb containment chamber on center campus and detonated it. They then swept the buildings and cars for further explosives, which was probably overkill but it is what you do when someone had explosives.

Compare that to the reaction to this Texas teen's device. A teacher (English teacher, I believe) carried it to the principal's office. The principal (presumably after looking around inside) called the police. The police sent regular officers to wait in the principal's office (and presumably look inside the device) while the student was called in--into close proximity to the device. No evacuation. No bomb squad. No urgency detaining the student.

If the teacher, principal or police actually thought that it was a bomb then they fucked up spectacularly in how they responded. If they did not think that it was a bomb then they overreacted by arresting and suspending the teen.
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baronvonrort

Quote from: Mermaid on September 17, 2015, 08:20:21 AM
We are a nation of xenophobic morons.

Would the exact opposite of a xenophobe be someone who promiscuously embraces foreign cultures while snobbishly rejecting their own culture?

Are you the opposite of a xenophobe?

CrucifyCindy

Quote from: baronvonrort on September 21, 2015, 12:12:39 AM
Would the exact opposite of a xenophobe be someone who promiscuously embraces foreign cultures while snobbishly rejecting their own culture?

Are you the opposite of a xenophobe?

I don't reject my culture being American. I am rather proud of being American. I just reject what is wrong with my culture. I reject the fear and suspicious of xenophobia, I reject the blinding philosophy of nationalism which leave you no choice but to declare you love of country right or wrong (Like Thomas Paine I will criticise my country when it is wrong), I reject it's consumerism and blind conformity to the status quo. I reject it's racism and it's sexism. I reject a lot about American culture but I embrace a lot of it...especially rock and roll!
“Rational thought is a failed experiment and should be phased out.”
 William S. Burroughs

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stromboli

Ahmed Mohammed's clock was a torn apart Radio Shack clock
http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/

QuoteSo, this story about a 14 year old boy in Texas that was arrested on suspicion of creating a bomb hoax (who, apparently just wanted to show off his latest electronics project to his teachers) that has blown up (no pun intended) all over the news and social media, caught my attention immediately. Not because of his race, or his religion, the seeming absurdity of the situation, the emotionally charged photo of a young boy in a NASA t-shirt being led off in hand cuffs, the hash tags, the presidential response… no, none of that. I’m an electronics geek. I was interested in the clock! I wanted to figure out what he had come up with.

I found the highest resolution photograph of the clock I could. Instantly, I was disappointed. Somewhere in all of this â€" there has indeed been a hoax. Ahmed Mohamed didn’t invent his own alarm clock. He didn’t even build a clock. Now, before I go on and get accused of attacking a 14 year old kid who’s already been through enough, let me explain my purpose. I don’t want to just dissect the clock. I want to dissect our reaction as a society to the situation. Part of that is the knee-jerk responses we’re all so quick to make without facts. So, before you scroll down and leave me angry comments, please continue to the end (or not â€" prove my point, and miss the point, entirely!)

For starters, one glance at the printed circuit board in the photo, and I knew we were looking at mid-to-late 1970s vintage electronics. Surely you’ve seen a modern circuit board, with metallic traces leading all over to the various components like an electronic spider’s web. You’ll notice right away the highly accurate spacing, straightness of the lines, consistency of the patterns. That’s because we design things on computers nowadays, and computers assist in routing these lines. Take a look at the board in Ahmed’s clock. It almost looks hand-drawn, right? That’s because it probably was. Computer aided design was in its infancy in the 70s. This is how simple, low cost items (like an alarm clock) were designed. Today, even a budding beginner is going to get some computer aided assistance â€" in fact they’ll probably start there, learning by simulating designs before building them. You can even simulate or lay out a board with free apps on your phone or tablet. A modern hobbyist usually wouldn’t be bothered with the outdated design techniques. There’s also silk screening on the board. An “M” logo, “C-94” (probably, a part number â€" C might even stand for “clock”), and what looks like an American flag. More about that in a minute. Point for now being, a hobbyist wouldn’t silk screen logos and part numbers on their home made creation. It’s pretty safe to say already we’re looking at ’70s tech, mass produced in a factory.

So I turned to eBay, searching for vintage alarm clocks. It only took a minute to locate Ahmed’s clock. See this eBay listing, up at the time of this writing. Amhed’s clock was invented, and built, by Micronta, a Radio Shack subsidary. Catalog number 63 765.

So the debate will rage as to the actions of the police, but the kid is a fake. He was trying to pawn his torn down Ebay special as a legitimate project.

Guess its because I'm an old man, but I think its better to let the dust settle before one gets emotional about shit. The jury is still out, but I doubt MIT is now interested and if Obama still wants to shake the kid's hand he is either continuing to politicize the issue or he just doesn't give a shit.

Shiranu

QuoteSo the debate will rage as to the actions of the police, but the kid is a fake. He was trying to pawn his torn down Ebay special as a legitimate project.

Guess its because I'm an old man, but I think its better to let the dust settle before one gets emotional about shit. The jury is still out, but I doubt MIT is now interested and if Obama still wants to shake the kid's hand he is either continuing to politicize the issue or he just doesn't give a shit.

I really have yet to see why the clock being real or not is relevant. The crux of the issue is the failure of the police and school to react in an even remotely sensible matter, not what the kid did.
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pr126

What would happen if a person tried to take this clock through an airport security?

Poison Tree

Quote from: pr126 on September 21, 2015, 02:28:42 AM
What would happen if a person tried to take this clock through an airport security?
Not much same as if it had actually been a bomb going through airport security
"Observe that noses were made to wear spectacles; and so we have spectacles. Legs were visibly instituted to be breeched, and we have breeches" Voltaire�s Candide

Shiranu

Quote from: pr126 on September 21, 2015, 02:28:42 AM
What would happen if a person tried to take this clock through an airport security?

Cuing Doctor Aitm to the, "comparing apples to spaceships" triage, stat!
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur