Women hitting men and getting hit back.

Started by doorknob, August 31, 2015, 04:52:45 PM

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doorknob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nihBhgYHDVk

OK I watched this video. Here's my thoughts

Ok the premise is a guy hit on this girl. She turned him down. the guy did not get the hint and harassed the girl. The girl threw a drink in his face. He hit the girl she hit back fight breaks out.

First I would like to note that getting a drink thrown in your face is not being assaulted in any sense. I've had drinks thrown in my face and I never reacted violently for it. So yeah guy shouldn't have hit the girl over that. Sorry but that's just how I see it.

Is it wrong for women to hit men? Absolutely.

If a man gets hit by a woman it's ok for him to hit her back?

HELL NO! There are many ways to deal with and defuse the situation and violence is not the correct responds. First of all you should walk away. If you are fallowed grab a by standard And Directly ask for help. If that still doesn't work call the police and press charges.


Men in most cases you are physically stronger than a woman. There's no way she can hit you with the same force that you can hit her.

Now I understand in some cases the woman might actually be stronger but those cases are rare. Even if that was the case it is no excuse to hit back. In which case you would probably lose any how. So still not a good solution.

NO EXCUSE to hit a woman no exceptions!

aitm

Quote from: doorknob on August 31, 2015, 04:52:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nihBhgYHDVk
NO EXCUSE to hit a woman no exceptions!

I didn't watch all the vid, too annoying. As to your last line,, you are of course welcome to your opinion.
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PopeyesPappy

Quote from: doorknob on August 31, 2015, 04:52:45 PM
NO EXCUSE to hit a woman no exceptions!

I don't agree. That doesn't mean I am not going to do everything in my power to not hit a woman. I'm not going to punch some chick in the face for throwing a drink on me. I'm not even going to slap her back after she slaps me first. That's retaliation not self defense, and it is wrong. I am going to walk away if I can. But if you think I need to just curl up in a fetal position while some psycho bitch beats the shit out of me just because she's a she, and I'm a he then no. That's not happening.
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Solitary

If it is Rosy---you know who---I'm running and hiding. I received a black eye from a very physical 5'5" girlfriend and wrestled her into a bed-----sometimes it is great to make up. I would not, and never, did hit a girl accept in boxing and rough sex that can be very exhilarating and fun when limits are drawn.  In fact I never have, or would, with a man unless it is to protect myself or someone else, which I have done more than once in the past. In fact, I would kill if my life or another person's life was in danger, and there was no other way to stop it, no matter how furies I got. I came close one time and it scared the crap out of me when I thought I did. In the military I would, without quilt, because I think it would be justified.  It is still bull shit to be put in that position involuntarily though. I'm not sure about it if you're thinking you are doing it for country and God though, and found out later it was for big business interests.  :fU:
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GSOgymrat

Quote from: doorknob on August 31, 2015, 04:52:45 PM
First I would like to note that getting a drink thrown in your face is not being assaulted in any sense.

I was surprised to learn that legally throwing a drink at someone can be considered assault. I know this because I talked to someone over the weekend who said he was charged with assault on a female for throwing a drink in her face. I wasn't sure he was telling the truth but according to a lawyer I mentioned this to throwing a drink can be considered assault. Being CONVICTED of assault for throwing a drink is apparently unlikely. Busta Rhymes had a bit of drink throwing drama a couple of weeks ago. https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/rapper-busta-rhymes-charged-assault-throwing-drink-gym-160705413.html

TomFoolery

I think it's wrong to hit women as a means of subjugating them, in the way that it's wrong to hit men that way too. But I think it's natural to defend yourself when you're being attacked, regardless of the gender of the person attacking you.

I've always been one for breaking up fights in the most peaceful, non-violent way possible. It's a shame the Vulcan nerve pinch isn't actually a thing. But since it's not, in terms of a general fisticuffs, if a woman is going to go at a man like she's a dude, she deserves to get hit like a dude. If he's nice enough (and skilled and strong enough) to subdue her without hitting or punching, then good on him.
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

drunkenshoe

#6
I'm not going to watch that video.

However, I agree with the opinion that if somebody is assaulting you physically you hold the right to defend yourself regardless of the gender of the attacker. Using violence to subjugate is something different.

If you mean it is wrong in general to hit someone PHYSICALLY WEAKER than you, yes that's the ideal. Hold his/her hands if you can do it. However, it is not really possible to do at all times, actually most times. Also, if you are attacked, your hands shouldn't pick apples as we say around here.

It's wrong to hit HUMANS in general. Not specifically a gender group.












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Solitary

I just turn the other cheek now, unless I take too many Viagra and my neck gets stiff.
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Johan

Quote from: doorknob on August 31, 2015, 04:52:45 PM
If a man gets hit by a woman it's ok for him to hit her back?
Well I'm not exactly sure its ok to hit back when a man gets hit by a man so I don't really see how putting a woman in the mix changes anything as far as that goes.

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NO EXCUSE to hit a woman no exceptions!
Wrong. One can always imagine scenarios where there could be exceptions. I happen upon a small pond, no one else around. And I find there is woman at the edge of that pond. As I approach I see that she is attempting to hold a small child underwater in what appears to be an attempt to drown the child. You bet your ass I'm going to try to get her to stop. And you bet your ass if she refused I would hit her with everything I had and/or do anything else I could to try to stop her. Rare and extreme though they may be, there can always be exceptions.
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Munch

This reminds me of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW4NKtpbRBc

This title is misleading, it should read "Cop slaps woman after she slaps him"

In this, she assaults him first, she slaps him round the face while hurling abuse at him. He slaps back moments later, and she breaks down crying, as if shocked that someone slapped her.

Eye for an eye, man or woman, if someone were to slap me like that first, I would hit back, I don't care. chivalry is an archaic concept, and for women to be on the same level as men, they need to be prepared to take there own medicine if they dish it out. 
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PopeyesPappy

Quote from: Munch on August 31, 2015, 06:33:42 PM
This reminds me of this video.

I didn't watch the video, but if a civilian slapped a woman after she slapped him he'd probably get charged with assault. It is assault because it isn't self defense it is retaliation. If she assaults you and stops she is no longer a threat, and you shouldn't use force if there isn't an immediate threat.
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Hijiri Byakuren

Actually, getting a drink thrown in your face is assault, and in some states might also be considered battery. Not that it justifies the guy's response, seeing as he was provoking her.
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jonb

For me as a man hitting a woman is always wrong, there can be mitigating circumstances, but for me it is still wrong.
I know this in practice is not a lot different to the other views expressed, but I feel it important that I express my feelings this way.

PickelledEggs

Quote from: doorknob on August 31, 2015, 04:52:45 PM
NO EXCUSE to hit a woman anyone no exception unless it's in self defense!
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Hydra009

#14
It's never okay to hit a woman.  Let's go with that.  Followup question, is it ever okay to hit a man?

If the answer to that is anything other than no, you hold a sexist double standard.