Is Christianity racist?

[Mike Cl]

Now you're sounding bitter. You're right, I am new and didn't realize what this was at first, and instead of being politely informed you and your cohorts attack me and my beliefs. Not one time did I tell any of you that your beliefs are sending you straight to hell and if you continue on this path, you will have explanations one day and then you will remember this conversation. I am a Christian and will NOT be bullied, harassed or spoken to in just any way. I've done nothing but respect you and have no reason as to why you're such angry individuals. I guess if I believed like you do, I'd be angry and bitter too.

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Actually, I don't 'believe in' anything.  I have reasons for what I think--I use facts to make decisions.  You don't.  You believe and therefore do not have any 'facts' for your beliefs, only more beliefs. 

You were respectful?  Yeah, I guess in your world maybe.  But it would be respectful to read and understand what a forum is about before you post on it.  If that is not possible for you, then you will get whatever reception you earn.  I could care less if you were the pope!  I will address you in any manner I deem fit!  You are a Christian!  Well, big fucking deal!!!  that only tells me you are willfully ignorant and have no desire to talk about facts or empirical evidence of any kind.  I have been bullied too often by your Christian religion that I guess I suppose you could call me bitter.  But for you to come waltzing onto an atheist form, not introduce yourself and then expect us to welcome you with open arms, then you are beyond willfully ignorant into the land of the stupid.

[Mike Cl]

You belong in hell

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Yes, you most certainly are christian!  You say one thing, act and do another.  Hypocrite on a good day--just evil on the usual day.  You clearly have no idea what a moral thought or act would be.  You are taught hate and how to employ it in your everyday life.  And you are taught blindness--and you seem to want to wallow in that.  Yes, you are clearly, a good, fine, moral, honest, kind, loving and non-judgmental Christian.   

[Munch]

You belong in hell

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oh dear, looks like someones peeling back the layers.

[Cocoa Beware]

Ive never given this much thought, but I think you could safely assume that Christians are more disposed to be racist, yes.

Their whole religion is based on discriminative themes, ignorance and an overriding superiority complex.

You belong in hell

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See?!

[Blackleaf]

Ive never given this much thought, but I think you could safely assume that Christians are more disposed to be racist, yes.

Their whole religion is based on discriminative themes, ignorance and an overriding superiority complex.

See?!

Don't confuse the religion with the religious. Jesus taught that people should be selfless, gentle and generous to an extreme. He cared for the people that were the outcasts of society, including prostitutes, tax collectors, lepers, and the demon possessed.

[Blackleaf]

Ephesians 5:22
Wives and Husbands
Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.

Colossians 3:18 - Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord

1 Peter 3:1-22 - Likewise, ye wives, [be] in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 

Seems pretty clear the bible's take on women.

Leviticus 20:13 ESV

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them

Jude 1:7 ESV

Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire

And homosexuality.

Seems pretty clear "God" had issues with sexuality and gender

The existence of gender roles doesn't contradict what was said. God can value all the same, and still acknowledge that differences exist. As for sexuality, there may be alternative interpretations for those verses. Interpretations have been known to change through time to suit their agendas. References to homosexuality in the New Testament didn't even exist until the 19th century.

http://www.westarinstitute.org/resources/the-fourth-r/what-the-new-testament-says-about-homosexuality/

[stromboli]

SLAVERY IN THE BIBLE

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.  (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

    If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years.  Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom.  If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year.  But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him.  If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master.  But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children.  I would rather not go free.'  If he does this, his master must present him before God.  Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl.  After that, the slave will belong to his master forever.  (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.  If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.  But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.  And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.  If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.  (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear.  Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.  (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

    Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed.  If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful.  You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts.  Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them.  (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

In both the Old and New Testament. Also note that the 10 commandments says nothing about slavery and rape.

You need to read your book before you make statements about it.

[stromboli]

Neither god nor Jesus Christ ever existed, period. You cannot prove they did. So any argument you make is therefore invalidated by that fact alone.

And go ahead and try to prove it. No one can,and you can't either.

[Blackleaf]

SLAVERY IN THE BIBLE

In both the Old and New Testament. Also note that the 10 commandments says nothing about slavery and rape.

You need to read your book before you make statements about it.

You seem to be misunderstanding my intentions. I'm not a Christian, and the Bible isn't my book. I'm simply trying to keep the record straight.

[stromboli]

And I wasn't talking to you. And I'll read whatever intentions I want.

[Mike Cl]

You seem to be misunderstanding my intentions. I'm not a Christian, and the Bible isn't my book. I'm simply trying to keep the record straight.

How do you know what the bible says?  You did say that interpretations change.  If so, then the message can't be all that clear, can it?  Do you give the bible any authority in any subject?  As for quoting Jesus, it is a known fact that he wrote nothing that exists.  The best one can say is that we have second hand info.  But then, since the guy never existed, that's like saying I read that this is what the Tooth Fairy said.  And keep what record straight?

[peacewithoutgod]

To my knowledge there are no verses that condone slavery. There are references to slavery but there are also verses that allude to 12 year olds getting married. Two practices we no longer participate in. There's alot to be said for civility. I found no verses about racism, I personally feel God finds that disgusting because we are all one brotherhood under Abraham.

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On blacks, they are the descendants of Ham - according to Genesis, blacks were created under the curse of Ham, the son who rebelled against Noah after their mythical boat settled. This is exactly the idea which the Southern slave owners promoted!

On Jews, almost every word of the NT has been used by Xtains to justify their hatred.

[peacewithoutgod]

You belong in hell

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You think your threats of hell have any impact here other than to reveal you for the violent shithead which you are?


 


           

[Blackleaf]

How do you know what the bible says?  You did say that interpretations change.  If so, then the message can't be all that clear, can it?  Do you give the bible any authority in any subject?  As for quoting Jesus, it is a known fact that he wrote nothing that exists.  The best one can say is that we have second hand info.  But then, since the guy never existed, that's like saying I read that this is what the Tooth Fairy said.  And keep what record straight?

The reason interpretations are necessary is because the Bible was not written in English. When you want to know what the Bible actually teaches, you have to go to the source: Scripture as presented in the ancient manuscripts. Word study and knowledge of historical and Biblical context are very important to obtaining an accurate picture of the Bible. While some verses are unclear in their meaning, often times there are clear answers as to what interpretation is right.

From what I've seen, New Testament references to homosexuality are based on assumptions, which is why they weren't there until the 19th century. Christians believe that homosexuality is evil, so they interpret the Bible in a way that supports that belief, even though sexual orientation is not a concept that was well understood at the time that the Bible was written.

Yes, Jesus didn't write the Bible. For the sake of the argument, I am assuming that the second-hand accounts are accurate, which may well not be the case. When I defend the Bible or Christianity, it is because I want the arguments against them to be fair.

[aitm]

I want the arguments against them to be fair.

for a person who apparently suggests they know what the babble says, but then obviously has not actually read the babble..being "fair" seems a rather long shot for someone who "isn't a christian"….nice try…we were all just born yesterday.