Flying Sphagetti monster - Greatest Atheist Straw man OAT

[Sleeper]

MR, I'm sorry, I know you probably worked hard, but this is an absolute non-argument.

Valid refutations have been offered endlessly, I'll just add that the belief that, say... the sun revolved around the earth, par example, was even more "intrinsically held" because we actually thought we could see it happening.

The difference between the countless things we all believed that turned out to be wrong and the belief in god is that the latter is the one that was, is, and always will be based on nothing but faith (and deep emotion). That's why it's still here.

Also...



...do not make unto thee any graven images. The threats of eternal garlic in the rectum are not to be taken lightly.

[leo]

Another post for me!

[SGOS]

MR, I'm sorry, I know you probably worked hard, but this is an absolute non-argument.

He's in good company.  It took 7 years for Ford to come up with Edsel, and it was a big flop too.

[widdershins]

So, your god is real because people throughout history have believed in something similar, all who don't believe in your particular god are wrong, but the fact that they believed in something proves that you are right?

You will never grow intellectually as long as you keep making these ridiculous excuses for your beliefs.  Why not just be honest with yourself and admit there is no proof, no evidence, you simply believe it to be true, though you can never prove it because it is beyond the physical, beyond the mind of man.  I would still disagree with you and still think you were copping out to prevent actually thinking about it critically, but I would at least respect you more for that small nonsense than I do for these constant ignorant "proofs" you keep trying to offer.  This is an argumentum ad populum.  In fact, my entire response to anything MR posts in the future will consist of no more than just the most prevalent logical fallacy he is using at the time.

Ironically I see at least 3 logical fallacies in this argument posted in a thread about a logical fallacy we use.  Apparently he can only see them one at a time.  If you use more than one he's completely oblivious to them all.

[aitm]

I can't have him clutter our forum with trivial crap......er........hmmmm

well, we need that space for OUR trivial crap.

[Jason Harvestdancer]

I can't figure out why the FSM is a straw man argument.

Don't worry, neither can MR

From what I gathered based on trying to decipher his post, he thinks that Gods are believed in while the FSM is made up.

[widdershins]

I can't figure out why the FSM is a straw man argument.

Don't worry, neither can MR

From what I gathered based on trying to decipher his post, he thinks that Gods are believed in while the FSM is made up.

Essentially he thinks that every fart is absolute proof that his god, and only his god, is real and that this thing created everything through magics unknown, but still happily defined in any way which furthers is agenda.

[SGOS]

I can't figure out why the FSM is a straw man argument.

Don't worry, neither can MR

From what I gathered based on trying to decipher his post, he thinks that Gods are believed in while the FSM is made up.

I assumed the same, and it's true that we committed a fallacy; We made up the FSM (I know I'll catch shit from the FSM's most ardent followers on that).  But that's not a straw man argument.  It's called "making something up."

I think most likely he's heard of the straw man fallacy but never actually read up on what it is, and he just thinks it means making up something that isn't real, probably because a straw man is not a real man.

But of course, I'm second guessing him.  He probably has an even more stupid explanation for his reasoning.

[widdershins]

I assumed the same, and it's true that we committed a fallacy; We made up the FSM (I know I'll catch shit from the FSM's most ardent followers on that).  But that's not a straw man argument.  It's called "making something up."

I think most likely he's heard of the straw man fallacy but never actually read up on what it is, and he just thinks it means making up something that isn't real, probably because a straw man is not a real man.

But of course, I'm second guessing him.  He probably has an even more stupid explanation for his reasoning.

Yes, MR is quite new to logical fallacies.  We introduced him to them early on to describe his arguments and ever since he's been pointing out perceived fallacies in our arguments while continuing to produce copious amounts of logical fallacies in his own arguments.  He seems to be under the impression that if he can find logical fallacies in the arguments against him it will both invalidate the arguments against him and excuse the fallacies in his own arguments.  Not quite sure how that works out for him.  Given that his conversion rate here is hanging right around (keep in mind, this is the last time I checked.  There may be some updated data that I am not familiar with) 0% I would say it's not working out so well for him.

[Jesus]

Where did he go?

[Rin Hato]

He ran away like he usually does.

He'll be back though, in a few days. No doubt spouting some other nonsense that we've all seen before.

[Jason78]

I can't figure out why the FSM is a straw man argument.

Don't worry, neither can MR

From what I gathered based on trying to decipher his post, he thinks that Gods are believed in while the FSM is made up.

I'm still not seeing the difference.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

I can't figure out why the FSM is a straw man argument.

Don't worry, neither can MR

:rollin: You owe me a sip of bitter lime! Ha ha....

Ill buy you a beer when MR comes up with some evidence...or even just an original argument.

Might be waiting a while though...

[Jason Harvestdancer]

From what I gathered based on trying to decipher his post, he thinks that Gods are believed in while the FSM is made up.

I'm still not seeing the difference.

My talent is translating their posts into English, not making the posts make sense.

[SGOS]

From what I gathered based on trying to decipher his post, he thinks that Gods are believed in while the FSM is made up.

I'm still not seeing the difference.

My talent is translating their posts into English, not making the posts make sense.

:rollin: I think Jason meant he couldn't see the difference between gods that are made up, be they monotheistic, Greek, Roman, or Pastafarian.