Do Christains Deserve Any Credit for good actions?

[trdsf]

How are you doing so far?  Piss poor.  Still haven't answered a single thing while demanding answers and spamming the thread with copies of your illiterate diversionary and dilatory tactics to try to cover the fact that you either can't or won't.

Yup, troll.


(twitlists lstan135 and makes popcorn to watch the rest of the show)

[Baruch]

If y'all are done "troll bowling" ...

The nut breaker question is "experience G-d"?  Well "experience transcendence" seems to have universal support ;-)  I can't experience things impersonally, since I am a person myself.  I can't experience things as a rock, can I?  Rocks are impersonal.  Whenever I experience something, it is thru the filter of perception, it is never raw sensory input ... not even in experiments (see Schrodinger's Cat).  A rock doesn't know or care if the cat is alive or dead ... but persons do.  Anything I experience, is like looking thru a partially silvered window ... I catch both what is beyond the window and my own reflection.  So my experience is personal.  Now I can think that the external world is I (solipcism) or it is thou.  Generally I don't think that all the other persons out there are me (the world is a case of multiple personality disorder only in multiple bodies instead of one body).  So when I think of the world as a whole, I experience a person, unlike any other, who is like a human but more than a human ... I don't just experience I or thou, but Thou.  Capitalization matters.  That is G-d to me ... even if it seems a little Hindu ... Brahman and all that curry.  But being Jewish, I also experience this G-d as ... Jewish ... of course.  But I am smart enough to realize that the Jewish god is bigger than that, much bigger.  Monstrous in fact.  Thus the very unhappy relationship Jews bear to "their" deity.  That is what Jonah preaching to Nineveh is all about.  Jonah ran way from G-d, to avoid having to preach to the very nasty Assyrian Gentiles in Nineveh (their capital).  And he was very unhappy that the people of Nineveh repented, and that G-d forgave them their trespasses.  This "good news" is central to understanding the self-assigned mission of Paul.  His "days in the Leviathan" was his period in partial blindness in Damascus.  Paul was determined to do a better job of preaching than Jonah, who was still a poor sport even after completing his mission.

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[Solitary]

Do Christains Deserve Any Credit for good actions?

This is like asking if Hitler deserves credit for his good actions because he did good for his people. 

[dtq123]

This is like asking if Hitler deserves credit for his good actions because he did good for his people. 

Bringing Hitler in already? Of course he deserves credit, but that credit is as small as an ant is to earth. (Did that make sense? We should make sure we recognize all the good and bad before making judgments. Some cases however, the good is almost irrelevant)

[Mike Cl]

Bringing Hitler in already? Of course he deserves credit, but that credit is as small as an ant is to earth. (Did that make sense? We should make sure we recognize all the good and bad before making judgments. Some cases however, the good is almost irrelevant)

Quite agree.  Which is why god deserves credit--but even less than Hitler.  Hitler was real and the good he did was real.

[SGOS]

The true meaning in it is beyond human underrtanding and only a true believer can understand

That was precious.

[Termin]

That was harsh, even for you...If it is beyond human understanding, how does the holy spirit make people understand?

It is not understood how the holy spirit makes things understood, However it is understood that is has the ability to make humans, whose ability to understand things, is understandably not sufficient to understand the understandable. Which is why we call things that cannot be understood, not understandable.

   Understand ?  :)

On an unrelated not, why isn't it the opposite of understand no oversit ? or overlie ?

 

[Termin]

Now, why am I not surprised by your response? Because u r blind n cannot see, u can think but cannot understand n u can talk but cannot control your loose tongue. That's why.

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  Oh the irony of loose tongues comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm_NNLZiusg

[Munch]

Hello!! The bible is written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit and it ir flawless and far more precious than Gold. The true meaning in it is beyond human underrtanding and only a true believer can understand
what the spirit reveals to him. Understand?

If the bible is more precious then gold, why then has it been rewritten and reinterpreted countless times? It seems that for something that is meant to be the 'word of god', people have no problem rewriting what he said to suit their means.

[doorknob]

Hello!! The bible is written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit and it ir flawless and far more precious than Gold. The true meaning in it is beyond human underrtanding and only a true believer can understand
what the spirit reveals to him. Understand?

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I'd also like to point out that if the bible is beyond human understanding then what is it's purpose? You'd think an all knowing god would give us something that we could understand. What did he write the bible for his health?

Also what does being a true believer mean? Because I'm sure every one's version of that is held by different standards.

[dtq123]

I'd also like to point out that if the bible is beyond human understanding then what is it's purpose? You'd think an all knowing god would give us something that we could understand. What did he write the bible for his health?

Also what does being a true believer mean? Because I'm sure every one's version of that is held by different standards.

ZOMG 420~

[Munch]

Also what does being a true believer mean? Because I'm sure every one's version of that is held by different standards.

That's just his way of saying only his way of seeing the bible is the right one.

Now how many major versions, excluding the smaller ones, of Christian cults are there?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations

Seems that the one word of God is pretty indecisive and separatist, even with its own worshipers, they can't come together with a shared ideology.

Now I know why they hate the gay community, because unlike them, the rainbow flag actually does mean unity.

[the_antithesis]

Haha. U can't even answer a simple question, u want to ask about the supernatural?

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I withdraw my previous question.

You're a cunt.

Go away.

[the_antithesis]

Dear Lord, Jesus, please forgive them for they know not what they are saying.

Eat a dick.

[the_antithesis]

The true meaning in it is beyond human underrtanding and only a true believer can understand
what the spirit reveals to him.

"It is beyond human understanding, but I can understand it."

If it is beyond human understanding but you can understand it, therefore you are not human.

Fuck off, you mollusk.